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Me too. Turned to my brother and said "Collingwood are done if Howe is doing kick outs". It's was a good day.

Ah ok, that makes sense then, so Victorian based members still get into the same amount of games with their memberships. I was worried for a minute. The AFL's track record on 'compensation' isn't great.

At the risk of discovering a new convoluted AFL bureaucracy, what is a 'compensation game'?

Huge difference right here, plus with Tippet out, could be a big day for Maxy :D

Well, that was not what I expected when I opened this thread. Lucky my boss wasn't walking past.

No no no, you have it wrong. COLLINGWOOD were the inexperienced ones, Eddie said so this morning on the radio. He's my hero and he's always 100% correct in all things. One sec, let me get some stats to prove it. Total Players By Games Melbourne Games Collingwood 11 Less than 50 8 7 50 to 99 7 2 100 to 149 4 2 150 or more 3 Oh, uh, well this awkward. Must be an issue with Footywire. I'll take Eddie's word over cold hard facts any day.

Yeah it would be, if that was the ONLY use for the NBN. That's like saying the government shouldn't build a road because it only goes to a hospital, when it clearly has other uses. Infrastructure has many uses, NBN is no different. The fact that you can't understand this indicates that I'm better off arguing with a brick wall. Also, because you are clearly incapable: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=remote+surgery

But... but... it's a privilege!

Did he say anything interesting?

Hahahahahaha Logical, valid points have no place in the AFL's world of free agency.

Happens almost daily in my house, in the hour or so before the kids' bed time when everyone is tired and we all veg out. Often I'm downloading from usenet at the same time as well. So 3 or 4 devices on Netflix (1080p) or YouTube (quality varies with source obviously) plus usenet downloads (speed varies according to servers, often between 5 and 10 mbs on its own). I have no issues streaming on the AFL app. It will occasionally downgrade the quality, maybe once or twice a game, for a few seconds. Fortunately the adaptive bitrate protocol they use is actually good and it doesn't interrupt the game with buffering. It is easily the worst experience of any video streaming service I use though, partly because it's mobile and I chromecast it, putting a double stress on my router for one viewer. Edit: If I ever get a 4k TV It'll be interesting to see how my connection copes with that as well. Just waiting for more content before I buy one.

This is the thing though, with internet this fast, it means medical and university use can be expanded into the home of employees/patients/students etc, allowing for much more remote work. No comment on cloud processing? Telecommuting reducing traffic with flow on effects on productivity and health? Hell, if enough businesses work telecommuting right, we reduce the need to spend money on new huge damn roads. Then we have some extra money for some hospitals someone else was going on about. Point is, there are some solid economic uses for this NOW. And every year there will be more, but stifle the NBN and it reduces the pool of ideas that can be utilised in the future. As someone who's lived FTTP NBN for almost 2 years, I would never go back. I just use it for entertainment, but it excites me that my kids will have access to these speeds for their education. They'll be able to remote into the local school's robotics room and control projects in real time if they want. And before you say anything, it's a state school, not a fancy private school where the benefits are behind a massive wealth wall. I do care about cuts to the CSIRO. But when talking about one topic I don't tend to list every single other topic tangentially related that I also care about. I'm not saying the NBN is perfect, and yeah Labor bungled some stuff. But the Liberals watering it down to FTTN is not a solution, and my latest reading of it suggests it won't have saved us much compared with the initial rollout costs anyway.

Did you not read the bit about remote surgery? Plus, if you compare building something to building a hospital, you'll never build anything else.

Correct. It's a massive infrastructure project, and as someone who benefits from it daily, I struggle to understand why it was watered down. And then I remember politicians were involved. More than happy to pay taxes for infrastructure. JNR, if you want a return on investment, I'll give you some examples: - People in regional areas can get remote surgery, something that's not possible without fast internet, instead of wasting days driving into the city to see specialists. Virtual presence is in its infancy. Remote surgery is just one tangible example. - As traffic due to poor urban planning (and other poor infrastructure like roads/rail) increase, telecommuting becomes vital. The faster the connection, the more jobs can be done off site. The reduction in traffic alone could make FTTP NBN worthwhile if enough businesses thought of ways to use it, let alone positive mental health outcomes for being able to remove a long commute, or physical health outcomes for not being stuck in a car for 2 hours a day. - Global information sharing for learning institutions is greatly facilitated by being able to move huge amounts of data between different campuses (or indeed institutions). No wait times, just access what is needed. - Faster internet gives rise to new businesses for content creation. There's no way Netflix could exist without fast internet, and they make some of the best content going around, as well as being a content aggregator. Personally, I'm loving not being forced to watch ads for products I don't want, during shows on at a time that's inconvenient to me. Also, Rupert loses, which is a big plus for me. - Faster internet allows for greater scale in cloud processing, which is already being used to look for a cure for cancer. The more people who have faster connections, the more 'idle' computers can be connected to the network to crunch huge problems. You have to understand the scale of the speeds we are talking. It's near instantaneous transfers of huge amounts of information, and because it's fibre, it's scalable. It CAN GET FASTER. The watering down of the NBN will be seen as one of the biggest infrastructure blunders this country has ever made.

Yep, it's the last basion of the old world strangle hold on video content. But even there the grip is loosening. Despite the AFL app specifically not integrating with chromecast (like almost every other video streaming app does, not hard to see why), you can still use the third party chromecast app to watch the stream on a TV. To give you guys an idea of how outdated FTA TV feels to me, the actual TV station in our house has not changed from ABC for kids in months, maybe longer. The TV did it's auto tuning thing during set up and screwed all the channel labels, but it doesn't matter because we don't use them. Haven't bothered to fix it. The TV runs all my streaming apps, and my WD TV Live unit streams my, uh, 'other', content.

Never. Netflix does not count towards my quota, and I'd say 80% of my streaming comes from there. All full HD, all the time. Kids as well. My son was ecstatic yesterday when the new pokemon movie came up as a suggestion on his list.

lol that got mocked in Tropic Thunder.

As stated above, I am more than happy to pay. I'm 31, and was 29 when I first got NBN, if that means anything to your generalisations. Edit: And yes I signed up for the top tier of speeds.

500 gb p/m plan with Internode, $95 p/m. Advertised speed was 100mbps download, 40 mbps upload. I am reliably getting 95 mbps download speeds, so I'm very happy that the reality reflects the advertising. My old ADSL plan was $75 per month. $20 per month for these sorts of speeds is well worth it. Netflix is unmetered on Internode, so no Netflix content (all delivered without buffering in glorious full HD to multiple devices simultaneously btw) counts toward my 500 gb cap. Link to plan here: http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/nbn/ Netflix is $15 per month, and with a household of 4 it's a bargain. It's on all the TVs, computers, 2 tablets and 3 phones. Yes we have more devices than people, but that's what happens when you get a free upgrade every 18 months AFL app is comparatively expensive. The AFL live pass is $90 per annum. Since it's only used for 9 months of the year, that's $10 per month for 2 hours of content I watch per week. Compare that with Netflix's $15 per month for basically everything I watch, it's pricey. But I pay it because it's the best way I can get AFL right now without the crazy expense of Foxtel. I also play online games quite a lot, and the additional speed is invaluable. I won't get into the advantages of low pings in multilayer games (especially being an Aussie), but to give you a simple example from last night; I went to play a game I play often and found that a patch (installed that morning) had corrupted my install. The best solution was to uninstall and reinstall the game, which involved a 9 gb download (the entire game again). If this had happened on ADSL, I would have set the download overnight and played the next day. On FTTP, I was playing the game 15 minutes later.

I got FTTP in my new place as the estate began construction under the new regime. I can confirm that I almost never watch free to air tv any more. I have Netflix and Catch-up TV services, of which iView is clearly the best (even if it's not always the best quality). My process goes like this: - Decide what to watch. - If it's on Netflix or Catch-up, I watch it. - If it's not, go to usenet. This process has one flaw and that is live sport. If I want to watch a live Melbourne game, I'm forced to use the AFL Live app and chromecast it. Because it's only a 'mobile' stream, I can't cast it to my 70 inch TV in the bedroom without a huge loss in quality, so I use the 40 inch in my bedroom. It's not ideal, but it works. What shits me is that I pay for the stream, but because of [censored] broadcast deals, it's not in a format that's convenient for me. I've had to use a third party application to make it palatable. The point is I haven't relied on a commercial broadcaster for any content in almost 2 years. I'm given to understand that reality TV is still a thing. Hilarious. Additionally, my 4 year is does not understand the concept of 'buffering'. FTTP NBN is GLORIOUS. Edit: I'm pretty sure that in the future my choice of estate will pay off in capital gains. The limited supply of FTTP will only become more valuable in the future.

Interesting. I got similar popups when in Italy 2 weeks ago, I figured I got a virus or malware from an unsecured wifi network. Since returning home, factory resetting and reinstalling, I have not had an issue.

Anything by Adam Sandler after 50 First Dates or so. I actually don't want to watch Happy Gilmore again because I worry his modern-day crapness will retroactively make one of my favourite movies bad.

lol did he? I haven't heard boo from him since his first speech. Quite disappointing. Maybe we'll get a more worthy winner next year. Agreed Daniher is doing great things. Thanks for the bump, in all honesty I had completely forgotten about this. That's probably an indictment of both me AND Morrison.

Media went quiet on this as soon as the verdict was in.

I dislike Bock because he took banned drugs. I hate the cheats at Essendon because they took banned drugs and obfuscated for years, claiming to be victims and hijacking season after season with their attempts to get off on legal technicalities. I am particularly infuriated by Watson, who cheated to win a Brownlow and despite cultivating the image of the 'stand-up guy and captain', hasn't given it back. I struggle to come to terms when Dyson Heppell says 'I know what I was given and am confident it wasn't detrimental to my health', but Hal Hunter has to sue to get medical records. There's more, but I'm sure you get the idea. If Bock does any of that, my dislike for him will turn into hatred.