Bluey's Dad

which in turn lowers our compo in a flawed system.

Surely the almighty AFL would be aware that an older player may sacrifice some income for success at another club not weight wages too heavily in their formula?

/sarcasm

Probably could get Pedersen with our 3rd rounder. Save the 2nd round pick for another young mid

Isn't our 3rd rounder now 58? Not sure if North would be happy with that.

Having said that, if this compo pick is 27 (1 after Viney, I have no idea how it's calculated) then it'd be overs.

soooo we have pretty much traded rivers for brynes.....

We didn't really have much of a choice in him leaving so I wouldn't call it a 'trade', although I guess that's the net effect.

Hopefully this means we get a 2nd round comp pick and use it on Pederson. I don't mind this outcome at all.

My father and grandfather both supported the Dees so it was only natural. I'm 27. I've already got a little scarf for my one year old . If we don't win a flag soon I'm pretty sure the po-po's will be onto my family for inter-generational child abuse.

My younger brother jumped ship in the 90's to North. Bastard.

Did he support the MFC as a kid?

Yep, Clown College is the best episode ever.

"Thats it, I'm going to Clown College!"

"I guess no one expected him to say that"

First time I saw that I almost [censored] myself.

This is ridiculous.

This sort of talk has contributed to jack watts slower than expected development.

Hogan is 17 years old, to expect him to come out and amaze the crowd is stupid.

Do not expect him to come out day one and exhibit 'great white hope' skills.

He's a kid, im expecting him to play as good as any other first year player.

Stop hyping him up.

Neeld said a similar thing in his presser about managing expectations of Hogan. The guy's 17 years old, I think he said something like 'we have to keep our expectations in check' or similar. I felt there was a little more he wanted to say about how Watts was handled but he kept it to himself.

Doggies are pretty close to being just as bad as we were last year, the main difference being they won our game.

They have picks 5 + 6 and we could use one, while the doggies could use a forward line.

Martin + petterd + sylvia + pick #20 for pick # 6

One mobile big man, one marking medium tall and a classy flanker/ mid type

Maybe wishful thinking but it fills some of their needs and other than sylvia the others are easy replaced

sylvia would be a loss but to get something good you must give something good

I'm tipping that Eddie started the GWS rumours. If it's true then let him go. We need to start making statements like we may use 20 on Gumby or someone else.

Wow, I really hope clubs don't play those kinds of BS games. We keep hearing about how it's a professional sport - 'world's best practice' etc. This sort of crap is best reserved for the playground.

Or maybe I'm just naive.

I feel really dirty about posting this:

Rumour from Facebook (make of it what you will)

"GWS have also sparked interest in Chris Daws who have offered to double his salary for a move up to Western Sydney.

It's understood pick 12 or 13 would be offered for his services."

Surely he's not worth a Pick 12 or 13? There's debate that he's even worth 20. I suppose though GWS have so many picks at the pointy end that they can afford to splurge a little on experienced players.

Petterd + 20 for Chris Dawes CONFIRMED !!

Source is not a Facebook page. Very reliable source. This is what Collingwood have asked for not what we are offering.

If this is the case, you and I have very different definitions of the word 'confirmed', sir.

For all the excitement about Viney etc, the team (in its various versions) is pretty mediocre, at best. We've got a long way to go in building a good list.

Nevertheless, it's a massive improvement on what took the field this year.

I hope this draft/trade period will be look upon in future years as a rebirth. When we got rid of the chaff and started to recruit FOOTBALLERS.

Petterd + 20 for Chris Dawes CONFIRMED !!

Please don't say the source was the Facebook trades page.

Having said that, I wouldn't be unhappy with this. Petterd hasn't shown much in a while.

I just read on the Facebook trades page that there is a 'mini-free agency' period from 1/11 to 13/11, which means that delisted players can be picked up as free agents with no compensation going to the previous team (assuming this info is correct).

Would this not mean that we're better off trying to trade Cook now, assuming we do want to delist him, to get something rather than nothing?

I just hope Clark gets back to full fitness. Imagine if one of Dawes/Gumby had to be our #1 target in 2013

No disrespect to you DL7 but I find that ridiculous and I'm surprised you think it worthy of repeating here. It could well be the private thoughts of the bloke but I prefer to think someone has made it up. How do YOU reckon you'd go as an 18 YO standing up in front of a senior AFL coach and s room full of recruiters and fo all intents saying F*** Off!

Doesn't sound very plausible does it?

At the same time ppl on these boards will rightfully slag off a journo for repeating any "rumour" as if it is fact

To be fair, he did say he 'heard it from a bloke...' so it's not like he's quoting it as fact. Although his comments afterwards indicate that he believes it to be true.

I agree though that it doesn't sound plausible.

But oh!! --- that Essendon game !

I was kicking myself that I didn't watch that one live. The next day I plonked myself down at the pc and streamed it on the bigpond site. Crappy quality but man it was a great morning. The wife even took the baby to the in-laws so I could watch it in peace and yell and scream.

Man that was a great morning. Couldn't believe Garland.

As I understand it, a deal hasn't been reached yet with the Swans?

So if they can't come to terms and he decides to nominate for the draft, wouldn't GWS just go "yep, we'll take him"?

Not sure GWS will be suckered like we were on Ball.

Happy to revel any other club's misery regardless, we've sure as hell had enough of it around here.

Welcome Choke. Worse things have happened than agree with olisik. I just can't quite think of any ATM........

I can... Could have been Tonatopia...

But thanks

Hope we hang onto Cale, with a full pre-season it could be hit time to bloom. Saw a few promising things from him last year.

I think he copped the full brunt of Bailey's easy coaching which has resulted in his lack of development.

I really think this is spot on. I'm not sure that he's 100% to blame, especially taking the whole Bailey 'lack of development' era into account.

Lets see what Neeld and Mission can get out of him before we throw him to the dogs (no pun intended).

Edit: Holy crap I just realised my first ever post is one agreeing with Olisik. There is no hope for me.