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  1. 5 hours ago, Deebauched said:

    I would love to audit the AFL. Millions will have vanished into the ether. Tricky Gil learned everything from his dodgy predecessor.

    The media have constantly watched his back and  celebrated him as a great administrator.  F...off.

    Still not sure i will be tuning in next year. The disgusting behaviour of the media and AFL towards Brayshaw/MFC after the Maynard incident will linger for many years.

    True. My god, these people. Demetriou showed his true colours when he left the game. Everything he touched (dodgy colleges etc) turned to [censored]. No doubt he's still lolling by the pool in some mansion somewhere. What were his qualifications? From memory, maybe an ex primary school teacher? Not even a decent conman.

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  2. 17 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    and i'm sure maynard wouldn't have ...

    Maynard would have ripped his nose off. 

    It was Maynard's birthday yesterday. I sent him a card saying 'Whatever else Gus does with his life, he'll always be remembered as one of the heroes who gave us our first flag in 57 years. Whatever else you do with your life, you'll always be remembered as the coward who smashed him in the skull with your shoulder when he was at his most vulnerable".

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  3. 1 hour ago, Gunna’s said:

    There are numerous examples of poor umpiring. The one that got me at the game was again Umpire 22 - Nathan Williamson late in the 3rd quarter. 
     

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    Apologies for the quality - but I have circled him, the ball and Pittonet engaging and taking Gawn out of the marking contest. (The telecast vision was poor but the umpires vision of it was not!!)
    I was filthy as I was row G just left of umpire 22. I could see both the free and the umpire and couldn’t believe the none decision. Even the scumbag Carlton fans were agreeing in the next bay that they got away with one. 

    I know Gawn has put some mayo on by flopping a bit in the past but then he is also taken high, held, arm chopped, bumped, shepherded and impeded without receiving a free for what is blatantly a free in every game. He must have his photo displayed next to Ginnivan and Greene at umpires HQ.  How can we address this as it’s a small contributing factor to both finals losses?  Will the club address this? How do we get this in the media like the filth with Ginnivan?

    Also, I read elsewhere that semi final weekend they have previously rested the best umpires so they’re fresh for prelim and GF. Isn’t that what one of the reasons of bringing in 4 field umpires was trying to address? Why go substandard when the best is available? Surely the week off before finals is enough (yeah they run a lot but they don’t take big hits) to not need another break so soon. 

    Yep, it's disgusting. Max basically gets mauled every game, hardly ever awarded frees for it. Dunno how he puts up with it, really. That great fat goose Cox is the worst offender.  Max is incredible - just keeps coming back for more. But surely the club could put in some kind of official complaint? 

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  4. 13 minutes ago, Macca said:

    The Byron Pickett type bump on defenceless players went on for years before the league acted.  Never mind that a player could have ended up in a wheelchair anytime whilst the glut of deliberate bumps to the head went on (and yes, I'm aware that Pickett played for us)

    Laura Kane is talking about closing the loophole at the end of the season with the type of king hit that we witnessed but why not now?

    Simple reason ... they'd be therefore having to admit that the thug did the wrong thing and should have got weeks (in other words, it's too soon)

    As to whether it happens again?  There's a fair chance it will happen again and it could be Maynard as the perpetrator again.  After all, they've said that he had no case to answer for so why not continue?

    Yep, sure they'll close the loophole over the off season. They fully realise it's leaving them wide open to future litigation. They've already achieved their short-term goal: of making it more likely the Filth get into a Grand Final and the AFL knobs get their bonuses.  

    My god, it's disgusting. This bunch of corporate wankers have taken over our beloved community game, corrupted it from within. I remember seeing this lovely Leunig cartoon, years ago. It began:

    They're privatising things we own together,

    they're flogging off the people's common ground,

    And though we're still connected by the weather,

    They say that sharing things is now unsound.

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  5. 18 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

    As the biomechanics guy said once Maynard was airborne he was like a frisbee with legs, nothing he could, no control of his body. I mean see this all the time in the Olympics, you know on the high diving tower, the floor routines in gymnastics, the high jump all the time. You know once a strong, trained athlete leaves the ground all they can do is curl up into a ball and hope for the best!
     

    Just wondering why the frisbee nonsense wasn’t challenged, there were options and Maynard was in the best position, arms out in front, just before he chose to turn the shoulder that did the damage. I believe He would have stayed open if he was about to collide with a team mate. 

    Uh god, the effin biomechanics guy. A Collingwood hack with a degree. Was he wearing a lab coat and a tin hat? Spent the night confusing the tribunal boneheads with science and demonstrating it was physically impossible for Maynard to do what Kozi casually did soon afterwards.

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  6. 10 minutes ago, biggestred said:

    i agree that he didnt have malice, however i think he could have protected gus more by opening his body up instead of dropping the shoulder. i think it was careless. it would have been awkward and they would have gone for a tumble but he could have done more to alleviate the damage so to speak. imho.

    His on coach said he had malice (just not much - doesn't take much) 

  7. 2 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

    So how much interest do people have in footy after this shameful debacle?

    Ill admit I'd still like to watch all finals, so my love for the game isn't gone despite not watching since Thursday. I guess we're back to hate-watching the Pies to see if they squander their prelim again. And Either barracking for us or the Lions to make the GF. Coll v Carlton might be a no-watch, but having said that, there are players like Docherty, Weidering, Walsh that I don't mind. So id go for them. 

    But by golly I'm done with radio, podcasts, tv shows and all that fluff. What a bunch of mediocre minds.

     

     

    Yes, they're incredible. Taylor, Buckley, Cornes etc. Dumb as, the lot of them. Lloyd is the one I look at it in genuine astonishment. Was a good forward, but my god, this guy gets a gig on a major TV program?  Using his mouth? Has absolutely zero intelligence, wit, repartee, charisma, just stares at the camera like a wombat in the headlights then mumbles some inanity. And they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for this? Jesus. My wife is an ED nurse who worked right through the pandemic and earns about a fifth of what these buffoons get.   

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  8. Sorry, haven't read the whole thread. Worn out and angry. Any suggestions what we do now, to encourage an appeal? Could our club be doing more to encourage it? That cowardly thug could well have cost us the game, not to mention a premiership (I say cowardly very deliberately. Launching his shoulder into the head of a guy with a history of concussion when his victim was totally exposed and focusing on playing football, as opposed to assaulting people) .

    (I know an appeal is unlikely, and a successful appeal even less likely, but at least it might be a nuisance to The Filth)

    God, this is infuriating. We had a very small window of opportunity to win a flag and it's passing. We were blessed with a great centre group, led by Max, but I presume they're all getting over the hump now. Dammit. Fifty year supporter, twenty-five year member, and I still haven't seen a bloody premiership (though watching it on telly was pretty good - Imagine seeing one live)  

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  9. 15 minutes ago, rollinson 65 said:

    Shakespeare: 

    "First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers".

    If my legal analysis proves wrong, mate, you will receive my apology on here.

    The Jesuits were about the ends justifying the means, I think. This is a far cry from Aussie lawyers who spend years being trained to look at events chronologically, reasonably and rationonately.    

    I must have missed the subject at Law where they taught that word. Rationonately? 

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    3 minutes ago, rollinson 65 said:

    We are all passionate Dees supporters here so we all feel really sorry about the consequences for Gus.

    Because I recognise and share that passion, I take no umbrage at the cheap shots levelled at me after I announced I was leaving this thread.

    Anyone with a modicum of legal training will see how this is will play out.

    If the Tribunal makes a Rules-based decision based on the real time (not slow-motion) footage, player Maynard will be exonerated.

    If the Tribunal makes a political decision (entirely possible), Player Maynard will be exonerated on Appeal. 

    Hate the way you use your faux-legal phrasing (like 'Player Maynard') to give the (wrong) impression that you know what you're talking about. You may be an ex-lawyer, but you're not in court now - you don't have a responsibility to be either on the side of or against a defendant. You're on a Demons' football fans website - you're acting like you've been appointed head of Maynard's defence.

    This could have serious consequences for our club. I'm sure the AFL monitors fans' reaction to events like this. Seeing such one-sided commentary on the main Demons' website could encourage them to give in to the Collingwood machine.

    Best you take your little peruke and disappear. 

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  11. This thread has been one of the most disappointing things I've seen in my many years on Demonland.

    How can anyone who feels 'sorry' for Maynard, or who utters a syllable in his defence, call themselves a Demons' supporter?

    Maynard says he's a mate of Gus's, even dropped around with a bottle of wine to demonstrate it (aw shucks, what a guy). Therefore he obviously knows how the horrors of concussion have affected Gus's and his partner's families. Despite this, he jumped late at Gus when he was at his most vulnerable, totally exposed. Then, rather than simply putting out his hands, he twisted and lowered his shoulder so that he bashed him in the skull and knocked him out of the finals.

    Maynard knew exactly what he'd done (indeed, he'd apparently been talking about it in the days before) . Look at that pathetic footage of him trying to show the umpire that he was putting out his hands. Er no, you vicious mongrel, you didn't put out your hands, you put in your bloody shoulder.

    That act of what even Maynard's coach admits was malice (see the previous post by Leave it to Deever- McCrae says there wasn't much malice in it - ie there was some) more than likely cost us the game and could have cost us a premiership. 

     

    If Maynard does get off on appeal, it will only be due to the brute force of the Collingwood media machine, which sprang into action as soon as the incident occurred (oh BT).

    So please, anybody on this site, don't add your voice to it. 

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  12. This is really unsettling my internal workings (ie making me want to spew)

    If you're heading for a collision, you put your hands out.

    If you turn your shoulder into a vulnerable opponent's head and knock him out, that's four weeks.

    Of course with the money-hungry Gill in charge, Brayshaw will probably be cited for striking Maynard's shoulder with his skull.

    And why is that monster Cox allowed to run around squashing everybody with his great blubbery bulk? 

     

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  13. 6 hours ago, hardtack said:

    Well, equally candidly, I was in no position to… my band had just played in Canberra, what will be our final gig for an indefinite period of time while I go into chemotherapy for the next however many months, and I had been taken out to dinner. I managed to get back to where I was staying in time to catch most of the second half. 

    Good luck, brother.

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  14. 1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    I’m still angry. It was a goal. Marchbank didn’t even protest (unlike Silly-Silvagni I’m the 93 GF).

    How did the goal umpire categorically decide it was touched. Usually the call (99-1 ratio)  is “it’s a goal but it may have been touched “ but MFC got the one umpire that decides he categorically thinks it’s touched.  
     

    Sure it wasn’t the sole reason we lost … but it was one of the reasons we didn’t win !!! 

    This sums it up for me. I'm still spitting chips. It just doesn't make sense. We know it went through the goals, so it's a goal unless the umpire sees that it was touched, in which case it's a point. If he isn't sure, it should just be called a goal, rather than referring the decision to a technology which is completely incapable of providing more accurate information. That idiotic process could well have just cost us a home final.

  15. On 8/6/2023 at 9:27 AM, Macca said:

    Further to the above, the owner of Dukes (which manufactors the Dukes ball) is saying that he is going to investigate whether the ball was a 4 or 5 years old variety

    Back then the Dukes ball offered more swing & seam

    But will the ICC investigate?  I doubt it as they'll probably see the protestations as just more whinging or sour grapes

    Plus, the ICC are a bit of a toothless tiger anyway.  Beholden to self interest

    And that's the issue as well.  In a general sense we are so used to not accepting the umpires decisions that when a serious issue like this does surface, it gets lost with all the other complaints & whinging

    But even at the lower levels of park cricket, this sort of thing would probably never happen.  But we're talking about an elite level of sport here. 

    As previously stated, it's the worst decision by officialdom (by far) that I've ever witnessed at a professional level

    LBW or catching adjudications even themselves out over time.  So you take the good with the bad

    But are we ever going to see a worn out ball replaced with a near new ball in the future? A decision which led to one team having an unfair advantage?

    In my eyes, the 5th test has a giant asterisk attached to it

    Anyway, that's 4 Ashes acquisitions in a row now. 

    Winners are grinners!

    great post

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  16. Our attachment to Warner may have just cost us the Ashes. Even if Starc staggers through, it may well ruin him for the vital last Test. Rain our only hope from here. And with our luck, it will rain just enough for the Poms to bowl us out a second time.

     

    Disappointing. I love beating the Poms (though full credit to them, they've performed well - but by God they've had some luck in this series - and they've carried on like spoilt brats over the Bairstow business. 

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  17. 2 hours ago, DeeMee said:

    Hate is such a strong word …….
    It was obligatory to hate Pies as a Melbourne supporter in years gone, the two just went together and that DNA never goes away.

    Hate Blues because they are Carlton.

    Hate Dons since 2000 and their no responsibility drug saga enhanced it.

    Hate Cats because of the unfair advantage they get.

    The hate is unhealthy but the schadenfreude of watching those  teams lose was the only salve during the Dee Dark Days.

     

     

    Excellent hate summation.

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  18. 24 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

    Yep and Lever was meant to be there today. 
     

    At the end of the day every club has and will be impacted by Covid. It’s best to have it happen now and get it going thru the club than come finals. The players and coaches infected during the season should have decent immunity up until the end of the season now which is good. 
     

    Of course nobody wants Covid and I suspect the recent issue with Wines is probably a post Covid issue as the exact same thing has happened to my friend post Covid. But it’s 2022 and we need to get used to this new reality. 
    At least we have guys at Casey who are dying to take their chances at senior level. 

    Hope so, but the trouble with Omicron is that you could get it now and then get another dose in September.

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