Lucifers Hero

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Except that Port play Pies and Butters out would have helped Pies.

Being a Brownlow favourite trumps Pies' interests ...  🙂 

Gleeson finds obscure reasons to support his decisions ... he should go.

The Tribunal is a joke.  It needs change. 

Christian and Gleeson (who was the AFL advocate at the Tribunal prior to being made its chair) have a vested interest in seeing Collingwood's competitors for the premiership be weakened and imv their bias has been shown at various times.  Port missing SPP for some key games.  We missed Kozzie for a key game. 

So how did Cameron get off a with a key game vs Cats this week ... maybe the AFL is concerned about some optics that @Ethan Tremblay didn't suggest in the post below. 

14 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Yeo and Butters cleared. Kozzie and Cameron suspended.. I’m not suggesting anything here. 

Blind freddy can see the potential for conflict of interest of the MRO and Chairman and the AFL should fix it - at least rotate the Chairman to someone who has no interest in the accused's team nor who they play in the following weeks.  Ditto the Tribunal panel.

Of course it won't!!

19 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

My husband got offered free corporate box seats for the ANZAC game through a client, and was like “there’s not enough free alcohol in the world that will make me want to go to watch Essendon and Collingwood play on my day off” 😂

LOL!

iirc your husband wasn't a Dees supporter before you made it a condition of marriage that he become one!.

Good to see his blood truly runs red and blue and he has adopted the universal hatred of Ess and Coll.

Well done!!

Browsed bomberblitz and bf.  The outrage has settled and resignation at another lost season has set in. 

That aside, I found a few things that made me chuckle !!!

• grab another couple mid table players as FA.
• We’re all frustrated given the last 20 years however we need to be patient.
• watch the first quarter. We played really well.
• Who gives a toss what the senior players think? They dished up the 12 goal loss
• That performance left me feeling edgy.
• Haha. I could give them a piece of my mind but they'd probably just refer it to Dodoro.
• Also, worst song in the league.
• Keep drafting sh-t, keep trading sh-t, keep getting sh-t results
• Well finish 9th. No hard decisions will be made and on it goes.
• There’s an excellent team with $10 memberships and a bright future of draft concessions you could join.
• Port players just ran through us like turn styles all night.
• Is it acceptable to change AFL teams after 35 years?
• I expect a written apology from all the Essendon Happy Clappers.
• I do wonder what it’s like to support a successful team
• We need to actively bottom out … This fight for mid table has to end.
• Culture at Essendon has been [censored] for a long long time now
• Have not seen the score how did we go? Was it close and did we bring the edge?
• Praying one of my 4 kids gets drafted so I have a legit excuse to pack it in with this mob
• Time to start tanking.
• The smashing we had to have
• Poor bastards who went over for this. I’d suggest to them that they get on the wine tours and not to drink for pleasure but to drink to forget
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• 

My Favourite

• Put $5 on WC beating us when we meet them

It didn't take long for them to lose 'The Edge'

Decided to check out bf!   Thought I wold drop by and share their comments:

• Gather round sucks!
• This team is trash. Make a statement at selection. Embarrassing.
• I ******* hate being a fan of the most pathetic club in the competition.
• And now hopefully people see why Scott said it’s an 8 year plan and not 3 or whatever.
• Essendon Edge? More like Essendon lay down and die.
• Amazing example of an arrogant upstart team coming in and thinking ‘if we do what we do, we don’t have to worry about the opposition’, and the getting absolutely ****ing smashed for their hubris and naivety.
• absolutely owned. outworked and outclassed.
• Finally, it feels like a normal season again. Was feeling a bit weird there for a hot minute.
• Every year it's the same s**t. We knock off dawks, norf, etc
• Maybe have a "breakout" win against 'aints or whoever, have a chance to make a statement (even if we don't win) and what happens. We s**t the bed.
• No composure when we had the ball and no pressure when we didn’t.
• Is draper undroppable ? The hype around this bloke is ******* hysterical
• Parish … 6 years for a bloke we don’t need.
• Fair to say its the same stuff with this group - against the big clubs/games & adversity(interstate away games) we are soft, weak & unskillful.
• There are no positives to that game. None. Zero. … Need to burn the entire list and start again post Dodo. We have no speed, no skills, no grunt, no winners …Same s**t, different year.
• Kinda tempted to have an all time melt but don’t have the energy for this s**t anymore.  We undid every positive from the first 3 rounds. Lots of work to even cement ourselves as a mid table team.
• Get someone from the Melbourne Storm to teach those soft pretty boys how to tackle for a start.
• Our style is flat track bullies.
• Calling it, season over.
• Huge% loss tonight. Now an uncompetitive 82%.
• i am essenDONE
• Need more AFL lifestyle

The Understatement

• A bit s**t

A hint of optimism:

• Need to put this behind us as quick as possible and use it as a reality check.

 My Favourite:

• Oh well, where was the Edge? They lied, we were on the Edge of a cliff!

Can't agree with this comment: 

• Cats V Power GF, calling it now. 

I had the Dees in the GF before the season even started.  Stand by that.  Don't care who we play, probably GWS.

My wish for Ess is not to be stuck at the bottom of the ladder as they would reap early draft picks.  My wish is for them to be forever stuck in the wilderness of a mid tier team.  Hoping like hell that Collingwood join them there for a long time to come!!

Enjoy the season D'landers.  It will be a very good one.

On 17/03/2024 at 08:50, Lou C. Fur said:

Can you buy MFC member guest passes today at the MFC Office (between gate 3 and 4)?

Greetings my phonetic namesake 😊 

Apologies for late response - I don't venture onto DL very often these days and only just saw your notification.

Not sure guest passes can be bought there.   Last year they could only be ordered/paid for directly with the club and then collected at the ground.

For future reference, this year guest passes can be purchased on line. 

One would think they could email/sms/mobile app the guest passes back but no, we still need to line up at the ground to collect them.  Still in the dark ages !!!

Lou.C - you can be DL's new Luci !!!  😉

35 minutes ago, binman said:

Thank Luci. That's not the message i get. Mine says something something unexpected error. Try again later. 

By office, do you mean the window they open on game da near gate 3?

If so, that was my plan. But my suspicion is there will be many people needing assistance. But perhaps 2 hours early is bit much!

An issue is i have a reserved seat, which i'm hoping to be able to access. A GA pass will get me in, but not provide evidence of my seat.  

Its amazing the number of different messages that are happening!!

Yes, that window is the spot!  I reckon they would give you a pass that matches your membership (they have access to the membership data base)  so you should get your reserved seat.

Like @george_on_the_outer this year I opted for a plastic card as back up.

55 minutes ago, binman said:

Have done this 10 times so far. No joy. It accepts my password etc. but then goes to screen saying unexpected error try again later. 

A cameo visit to DL for rescue before tomorrow.  So thanks DLers!  However, some things worked but then they stopped working.

So had to try other methods, 

Binman, if this is the error message you received click on OK and it should take you to the tickets screen and your ticket will be there.  Or click ok and if it takes you to the menu page click on 'mobile membership' and the ticket should be there.

Failing all that and for the benefit of other DLers, several other things I tried were:

• to login thru the mfc website which worked sometimes and I could then access the tickets in the app, sometimes I couldn't.
• turned the phone off/on and I think that worked ... a bit hard to tell if it worked as I was trying other methods at the same time.

Hopefully, one of the above will work for you and others.

Binman, rather than go 2 hours early just go to the mfc office (between gate 3 and 4) and they will give you a pass for the day and you can sort the app out at your leisure. 

Go dees!

Edit:  As extra safeguard save the ticket to 'wallet' or take a screenshot which saves the ticket to the 'gallery' ... just in case the app fails when at the G

On 24/02/2024 at 12:13, BDA said:

I didn’t realise you had left either. You haven’t missed much around here lately tbh. It’s been quite feral actually.

Sorry to see you go and all the best for the future. 

On 25/02/2024 at 09:31, leave it to deever said:

Tx LH for all your work and informative comments.

It's getting pretty skinny around here for some normal posts.

Thanks guys.

I’ll be back on DL when we play in the 2024 GF !!!   City hotel already booked for that weekend!

In the meantime, I have lots of fun things:  restarted playing bridge early January, am indulging in art (skills leave a bit to be desired but its fun), have organized some i/state and O/S holidays.  And, of course will enjoy being with family and friends.  Oh … and watch the dees!!  So a pretty good year ahead!

This is a good time to hand this thread over to @red and blue forever  who will do a great job for you.

19 hours ago, daisycutter said:

wtf,  just saw luci has gorn 😖

now there is only 1 sane demonland poster left

get well and back soon, luci

Thanks dc.   I take it you are the other sane poster😉

Um... I haven't been unwell.  To the contrary: fit, healthy and happy.😊

btw, I haven't closed my DL account.  I come on to DL to respond to PM's and read the occassional Notification ... it is layzie's quote that brought me to this thread.

I've enjoyed the time away from DL so it is unlikely I'll be reading any threads or posting.  Nonetheless, it is nice to know that I am missed a l little. 

On 22/02/2024 at 13:20, layzie said:

Very late to this party as I've been taking time out from DL and online forums myself but just wanted to show my appreciate for Luci's contributions over god knows how long.  Much love. 

Thanks lazyie. 💕

Keep in touch.

Thank you all and those that sent PM’s for the hearfelt support. 💕 Also, the encouragement to come back means a lot to me. 

I guess it is best to ‘never say never’.  Perhaps, once I reduce the time and energy drain of some online activities I’ll be better placed to come back. 

And, it may be hard to resist the pull of DL once the first ball of the new season is bounced !!.

On 14/12/2023 at 18:30, Bitter but optimistic said:

Luci .... you've broken my heart!

Say it isn't so.

I'm torn between giving this a 😢 to say 'I'm sad you are sad' or a ❤️ to say 'I'm glad you care'.

Either way, thank you for being my greatest fan.

This is my last demonland post. 

As we all know demonland can be wonderfully addictive!  But I've decide to reduce my use of on-line forums, social media and Apps. 

Can't tell you how much I've enjoyed my time on here over the years.  Thanks to everyone for your debate, support, laughs and banter, especially those I've got to know through messenger.

Wishing you all the very best.  Travel well, demonlanders.

To a 2024 Flag 🥂

Cheers,

Luci

Edit:  I've sent a copy of the Contracts Excel worksheet to Andy.  If anyone would like to volunteer to continue with it I'm sure he and demonlander's would apperciate it.  It is very easy to maintain; it is but a simple table.

Updated for Bowey's new contract.

3 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Thanks LH greatly appreciated I assure you, just noticed McAdam think he will be 30 end of 2025. Have a great break and look forward to any changes in March.👍💕

Just for you 😊I have updated McAdam before signing off!

He has a 3 year contract expiring in 2026 so I have changed his age to 31.

3 hours ago, stinga said:

Thanks Lucifer for all the work.  Don't know if its my system but all the previous pages appear to have disappeared.

Thanks stinga!

By previous pages I assume you mean the 2023 Contracts Thread?  To locate it go back to my first post of this thread.  At the bottom of that post is a link (in the form of an image) to the 2023 thread.  Just click on the image and it will take  you to the thread.  

14 minutes ago, BigMacjnr said:

https://www.afl.com.au/about-afl/rookie-players

Thanks for that.

I'm not sure it is the latest as there is no reference to NGA players and how they become A or B rookies.  And the matching of F/S bids doesn't talk using points.  

I guess it isn't critical to our list management atm so will leave it as a grey area (in my mind anyway) for now.

52 minutes ago, durango said:

I just googled the rules and 3 rookie b's are allowed not 2

It would be great if you could post link. 

afaik it was three and changed to two during the covid years when the overall list size was also reduced.  Some websites haven't updated their documents.

37 minutes ago, Blistering said:

Does anyone know the significance of Kynan being categorized as a Category B rookie?

Also, we already have 2 Cat B rookies - is there a limit on their number?

He has joined as an A rookie; pick 22 in the rookie draft.  The A rookie status is assumed in the list of selections.

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We are allowed 2 B rookies and those positions are filled.

We no longer have any list spots.  We can gain one if a player has a long term injury and is out for the whole season.

22 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Thank you Lucifers Hero very comprehensive and timely as per usual, I can relax now. Just one little thing is Kynan Brown not Tynan. Lol.!!

16 hours ago, Its Time for Another said:

Thanks @Lucifers Hero for all your ongoing hard work. I'm sure I speak for a lot more than just myself in saying It's much appreciated. 

11 hours ago, jayceebee31 said:

Thanks Lucifer, very much appreciated by ALL.

9 hours ago, Kevin dyson said:

Fritsch won’t be 31 at the end of his contract 

Thank you all and others for your for support, it is much appreciated.

In the Chart I've added the Dees 2024 draft picks and made the corrections suggested.

I welcome further corrections or new player contract info and I'll make the changes in March as after today, I am giving myself a holiday from D'land for the off-season.

Link to the 2024 Contracts Thread

10 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Out of curiosity is Charlie Spargo really a UFA in 2025 or is it a typo?

Great job LH as always !!

Yes, Charlie is a free agent in 2025 - he will have been with the club for 8 years at that stage.

I'm guessing he isn't in our top 10 most highly paid players which means he would be an UFA

By the way there is a new 2024 thread and the link is in the next post.

The 2023 Table is updated for:

• Games played at start of 2024 season
• New draftees
  • Caleb Windsor, a three year contract in line with new CBA
  • Koltyn Tholstrup a three year contract in line with the CBA
  • Kynan Brown as an A Rookie on a one year contract
• Inclusions to be confirmed by the club:
  • Marty Hore as an A rookie (Supplementary List), assume a one year contract
  • Dan Turner on a two year contract
  • Andy Moniz-Wakefield rookie contract to be renewed

Therefore, there are no more list spots.  We have kept the 36/6/2 mix of senior/A rookie/ B rookie mix.

Potential milestones in the H & A season:

• 50 games
  • Bowey
  • Chandler
• 100 games
  • Rivers
  • Picket
  • Spargo
• 200 games
  • Hunter
  • Petracca
  • Tomlinson
  • Viney

Key Senior Player signings for 2024 (imv):

Sparrow and Bowey are the major ones to sign up.  Langdon and Hunter will be re-signed.  Also Adams will likely get another contract as it is rare for recent draftees to not have at least one extension.   But a number of others may be encouraged to look elsewhere (eg Laurie, Schache, Smith and maybe Hunter) or retire (eg Brown, McDonald).

Other notes

I reckon Tholstrup will rapidly become a ‘cult hero’ especially among the young.  He has the swagger and the charisma to draw the crowds!!!  Looks like a fun loving kid.

For any contract changes from the club or posters during the off season I will update them all together in March. 

The 2023 Contracts thread can be found here:

17 hours ago, old dee said:

Is there something I have missed? 2 games at Optus but 3 long haul flights surely it's 4?

The 3 'flights' were the two trips to Optus and one trip to Alice.

If counting the actual flights yes there are 4 involving Optus plus 2 involving Alice a total of 6..