Cranky Franky

9 hours ago, Bystander said:

In the 2 finals Casey played in 2023, winning the first by 100 odd points, Jefferson averaged 3 disposals, no goals and 0.5 tackles. One disposal of 3 metres his only stat in second final.

Will probably need to add to that to warrant promotion.

 

 

Can't sugar-coated that. Pretty dismal efforts for a high pick after a full season in the VFL.

Watched him several times & didn't see much to enthuse about.

Seemed to cruise around, lacked aggression & not much 2nd or 3rd efforts. Ineffective when the ball hits the ground.

Needs to lead much more not just once & then jog back.

10 hours ago, poita said:

Criminally underused by Goodwin & co. He should have played games when Oliver was missing, particularly ahead of Jordon. I love that he always maintained his standards at Casey, and didn't drop his bundle when it was clear that senior games weren't coming. Hopefully his recovery from injury goes well and he is back playing footy again soon.

Agree 100%. Underutilised in 2022 & 2023.

The AFL  had an opportunity to make a stand after the Angus Brayshaw incident.

They should've clearly stated that the player initiating the tackle or smother has a clear duty of care and that Maynard's action was unacceptable.

Shamefully but typically they squibbed it.

7 hours ago, Beetle said:

My old man who was a Collingwood supporter was recruited to Melbourne from Dandenong High School as a 15 year old and went on to captain the under 19s in the mid 50s.

He went on to play reserves for the club during the golden years but sadly never managed to play a senior game. He then left to play for Springvale in the Premier League.

The rest is history and I was born with a hand knitted red and blue jumper.

It’s a love hate relationship.

Interesting story Beetle.

I grew up in Dandenong in the early 60’s & followed the mighty redlegs. They wore the same jumpers as the Dees so it was an easy decision.

Geez Dandy had some great players - Alan Morrow, Hughie Mitchell, Rodney Evans, Frosty Miller et al.

Sadly lost his mojo in 2023. Stopped hitting the scoreboard & seemed to lose his aggression & niggle.

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Add him to the list of Melbourne players who left and subsequently returned some time later. Carl Ditterich and Gary Hardeman are on that list. Who else? (I'm ignoring WW2 which impacted on players like Bluey Truscott and maybe Jack Mueller).

Des Campbell, Des O'Dwyer, Chris Aitken, Peter Thorne

36 minutes ago, poita said:

There's a reason Marty Hore was delisted two years ago (several of them actually), and nothing that he has done since in that joke of a VFL competition, will convince me that he fills any of the gaping holes in our list.

It's a really poor list management decision, unless we are trying to lift Casey back into finals contention.

Yes and the reason was injury. That's why we let him go.

Its actually a very smart list management decision.

We need experienced players at Casey mentoring the kids & keeping the seconds team competitive.

12 hours ago, 58er said:

Last sentence is the key ATCASEY 

Thats a snide little put down for someone who averages 16 disposals & 5 marks when he played for us.

Can't believe the negative nonsense written about Marty Hore by posters. 

He is a very handy signing. He has good skills & can fill in wing, or in defence & only injury prevented him becoming a permanent player last time round.

He'll also be an ideal player at Casey.

There's Tom McDonald & Tomlinson at a pinch. Last year we won a game with Weideman & Mitch Brown rucking.

18 hours ago, deanox said:

For ruck, I think the plan is "unless you have a dominant ruck, you only need someone who will compete/break even".

If Gawn goes down, I wouldn't be surprised to see us so something very field and play to ruck. Use Petracca, Joel Smith, JVR, etc. 

I'm not sure it's a great option,but I think that's how the footy department sees it.

So to summarise- you believe that if Max is injured the Club plans to play Trac & Joel Smith in the ruck !

Not sure on what basis you dreamed that up but it is patently adsurd.

You may as well say that if May is injured there is a left field plan to replace him with Oliver.

On 11/11/2023 at 13:50, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Thought he was very stiff to be delisted in the first place.  No problems with him coming back into the fold.

 

 

+1 👍👍

14 hours ago, binman said:

Some rewriting of history going on here by some posters?

There are only four posts other than yours in this thread!

Might as well name names.

The whole tragedy thing is absurd. The "High draft pick ruined by going to a dysfunctional Club" melodrama is pure BS.

Lots of good players get picked by struggling Clubs & still succeed.

Jack had his problems but eventually became a good player for us. If he had come to 2017 pre season better prepared instead of unfit he would now be a 200 plus game premiership player.

Where he ended up was entirely of his own making.

Some rewriting of history going on here by some posters.

He actually got it together by 2016 & had become a really key player. Unfortunately he turned up for the 2017 pre season in poor shape & Goodie lost faith in him & his fate was sealed.

I actually have nothing to say.

1 hour ago, binman said:

I resemble that comment!

I'm almost getting nostalgic for Colin Flaubert's long winded historical lectures on morality 😴

And you can't get away with Steven Clark on the half back flank.

Thought you previously posted your last one ever

22 hours ago, TRIGON said:

It does get confusing @Rab D Nesbitt as to which thread is which. As a collection of threads, I feel that  Demonland has provided us with interesting debates and insights into issues such as:

• Racism,
• Drugs and alcohol
• Irish real estate

Go Harrison, Go Dees!

And provided us with an endless supply of moralising serial windbags 🤪

29 minutes ago, mo64 said:

His brother Glenn was a gun mid. Not sure how good Robert was.

Robert was good & had a couple of great years for us. Was picked for the state side while he was with us.

17 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Easily the most underrated player to go around for the Dees in the last 50 years.

Not by me. Outstanding footballer.

Stevie Johnson for me or maybe Jack Gunston.

About time Casey gets a decent ruckman.  Its cost them 1 or 2 premierships.

32 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Occams Razor suggests the simplest explanation. 

Mine  , we just had nfi. 

All players have worth...   strangely his was greater playing ...than not.

All history now......

Every time there was a selection to be made Goodie & the BT took the conservative, stick to what has worked, option. There was a lack of boldness in our selections.

Grundy & Woewodin should have played.