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Watts, Vince, Salem, Dunn then daylight to Nathan Jones. Forget the rest as they are average to poor.

Next year will be 3 years too late to recruit ROK. It was highlighted on Monday we need run & carry with elite kicking skills. If we take Brayshaw as we should, after that it's all about trying to find our Paul Seedsman & Nick Malceski as well as a Haydyn Ballantyne.

I think Collingwood showed us yesterday that we clearly need line breakers who can run, carry and have elite kicking skills off half back.

Young, Seedsman, the boy from Hawthorn who runs and kicks it beautifully from Half Back, Kolidjashni from Gold Coast are the type of players we need. 2 of these please.

Plus we need another 2 quality mids who can win their own ball but can run & carry, eg Steele Sidebottom, Dyson Heppel, the Hill brothers etc.

Plus we need genuine small crumbling forward eg Ballantyne, Betts.

We've all hoped Blease, Strauss & Tapscott would fill 3 of these 5 needs but I am afraid not.

As long as we all remember it wasn't just Pick 2 for Tyson & Salem.

It was Picks 2 & 20 for Tyson & Salem. Let's not overlook the fact there seems to be some very good players have gone at 20 and beyond.

Very happy with the deal but maybe too early to call it the deal of a lifetime.

VG just go away as you clearly are a very poor judge who just can't accept you got it wrong with Lynden Dunn.

4 of us go every home game and it staggers me that anyone thought Lynden was ever a delist. I have been a great critic of us not going deep enough into many drafts due to hanging onto some players too long, however, I have never understood the over the top ridiculing of LD on this forum.

As others gave said NO Draft picks given for recruits over 23/24. Happy to get more like the great Daniel Cross out of Fee Agency system.

Can't recall a Poster getting it so right as big red fire engine has. Has there ever been a game where Grimes hasn't had a couple of clangers.

Brave effort today and a lot to like but we will never be a top 4 side if you have half your back line that could be legitimately called turnover merchants. Read Grimes, MacDonald & Terlich.

The greatest game in the world but the worst competition courtesy of inequitable draft, salary cap and draw!!!!

Every year there is a better ruck man than Spencer either delisted or able to be picked up for a very late pick. Read Deryckx, Ceglar, Jolly etc etc.

Please desist with the Spencer experiment.

Jetta, Bail, McKenzie, Spencer, Evans, Terlich, Pederson = just VFL standard

the nomination of 6 players is definitely one too many today when you see players such as Howe, Bail, Jay K-H & Pederson get the 1 point nomination.

Howe & J K-H weren't sighted in the 1st half and played respectable 2nd halves, Bail is another one of our midfielders who just doesn't get it enough and when he does is so poor by foot. I thought Pedo was ok and has moved from SPUD to Serviceable over the last couple of weeks, but to mention any of these players in the context of "getting votes" is laughable.

We must face up to reality and come to an arrangement so we can perform the necessary "housekeeping"

We need to remove this extremely negative distraction of having our highest paid player on a permanent long term injury list.

Unfortunately there is so much more complexity to Mitch than just a debilitating foot injury.

We must face up to our problems and deal with them. Thankfully P J is best at this.

I don't know if the full facts have been revealed or rumoured, however, as Jackson stated on Sunday, playing football is the least of Mitch's concerns. I strongly suspect Mitch will not play this year and quite likely never to play again.

Terlich & Strauss will never be regulars in a good, top 8 side. If you could merge their respective strengths you would still only have a good player.

I see the small Defender as Clisby in the short/medium term..

Played like did on the weekend for the last 2 years. Frawley is almost matching Jamar in chronic under achievement. No wait a minute, Frawley actually gets on the ground!!!

Quite possibly the most over rated, over hyped player of the modern era. Would swap 2 highlights a game for 20 solid outputs every time.

Perhaps they should have, as I'm FAR more successful in my vocation than either of those 2 failures. Whatsmore let's not even speak about the Recruiting Manager that brought him to the Club.

Now let me state right from the outset, I believe the Spencer experiment should have been terminated years ago and I have stated that very clearly to the last 2 Coaches.

Just interested in how the big Spud is going today.

Deezee, Clisby is our best small defender already. Can't believe some rate Terlich ahead of him.

MacKenzie is our best stopper. Please tell me what Trengove brings to the team besides a lack of pace and a great bloke??

Best 22

Clisby Frawley Garland

Grimes MacDonald Dunn

Watts Jones Cross

Howe Dawes Hogan

Kent Clark Viney

Gawn Tyson Vince

i/c Michie McKenzie Fitzpatrick

sub anyone from Salem or Jay K H,

The following players are just AFL depth at best

Terlich, Trengove, Blease, M Jones, Georgio

We're in real trouble if we are having to select Spencer, Bail, Tapscott, Pederson

We are going nowhere if Spencer is our number 1. FCS cease the Spencer experiment.

I was also there for entire session and like other posters I am not at all concerned about the players being continually agonised over in the Rehab group. I would expect everybody except Garland to be on track for Round 1 barring any future mishaps.

An example of this was the beautiful work today by Kent. His pace and disposal was a highlight when he eventually joined the main group. Clearly being carefully managed thru his patella soreness and me thinks even he will be good to go for Rd 1.

I think that the Bullies must be travelling real well if they can let Cross go! Probably not what we want, but Cross will probably finish Top 3 in our B & F this year.

I think we have improved our midfield considerably this year, however, anyone that thinks it will be a strength is kidding themselves. I really hope that Tyson plays 20 plus games and the body holds up as he seems to possess something we're so short of, being midfield class. Already got bit of grunt and more coming in with Mitchie, Cross & Riley, just need some midfield class.

Well you should be surprised. As many others have inferred, if Matt Jones is getting a regular game in 2015 we are still in the bottom 4.

I have a copy of the hawk's recruiting dept's list of their player rankings for the 2013 draft. They list in order their top 200 players.

Interestingly, they rated the boy Sicily that they took at about 60 as the 23rd player in the Draft. They rated Tsitas as the 28th player.

Interestingly, they rated Nathan Freeman as the 29th player.