Josh

5 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

Not defending Kane but I'm not a fan of the long term contracts.  In this case I think it's probably ok because right now it builds stability and adds to the good news story snowball for us and he's (reportedly) being paid much less than other clubs would be prepared to pay him.  Having him locked away for life does so much for membership, for being a destination club and to put to bed the rumours that would otherwise have plagued Melbourne and Petracca his whole career.  But that's probably my Melbourne Bias talking.

Other than Dusty, there's not too many 7+ year deals that have worked for the club and plenty of them that have gone the other way (or at least so far) e.g. Grundy, Kelly etc.

Hope to the (Demon) Gods that it works out for us / him.

Agreed. Obviously long term contracts are gambles on both sides. Club is gambling that Trac can perform to a high standard for a long period. Trac is potentially turning his back on a small fortune for some more security. I'd certainly prefer the security of it were me...

One thing that I always cringe at is when a player signs on till the start of their free agency.

Also the demand will force the supply. The more players that get signed to long term deals, they more you'll have to if you want to keep your stars.

17 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I agree. Myself and @Rhino Richardsdid the vast majority of the moderation on here in the early days after the platform move. Both of us copped quite a lot of stick for our hard line stance on things, but I’ve got zero regrets, I think it was essential for setting a benchmark for expected behaviour. I think it’s paid off now, but I’m probably biased!

I think this is a fantastically run and operated forum. There is enough room for vigorous debate without out too much "name calling"

It's a credit too you, I can't even keep 1 wife happy let-alone how ever many crazy fan we have here (how many of us is there 2000?)

A colleague of mine who is a mad Geelong supporter (a normal one... Well as normal as a Geelong supporter can be) has been saying for the last 2 years that the current Melbourne side reminds him so eerily of that Geelong side. All of a sudden it just clicked and they ran away with it.

Here's hoping...

13 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

GrimesTimes?

Maybe I honestly can't remember. I wouldn't have said much like here, more of a lurker. Love football theory and in depth analysis so prefer to read

HAHAHAH Range Rover and Baghdad Bob. I was only a kid and remember thinking "How the hell does someone from Baghdad know about the dee's"

@dazzledavey36 were those footy games organised through demonology or here? 

Can't remember my name, something about Jack Grimes (who was my favorite) and the Simpsons no doubt. 

How's this for a bump?!?

I came from demonology originally, can remember thinking this joint was wack and the 7 active posters on demonology were way smarter than you bunch of lunatics. From memory it was around the time Ricky Petterd was running around, always liked that guy.

Anyone else from/remember demonology?

23 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Three Carlton players are in there lol

 Damn they must be a really good side

And Jack Riewoldt in the pocket ahead of Kozzie.... fmd

Not bloody wrong. These teams are always so hard. Ive always thought most people get caught picking a "these are the best 22 players for the year, let's fit them in a side" vs "best by position" 

4 pure midfielders on the bench for example

With the utmost respect to any player that will be mentioned in this thread Tomlinson's role was a basic one. Just lock down the the opposition's best forward. Petty gts first crack, if not McDonald... He'll Saw can play role... Just let Lever and May zone off each other

Just now, DeeZee said:

Weed for Thommo 

Harmes for Melksham 

Chandler for Jones

Bedford for Baker

That'll do. Close thread.

6 minutes ago, 58er said:

I'll be surprised if T MAC is playing in spite. That is not the only motive he is displaying ( if at all) He is just super fit and playing dangerously and can see the big picture.

He may not have liked the edict but has responded superbly and is a giant reason why the forward line is a force to be reckoned with.

He has always been a Club person and I believe as a Life Member is undoubtedly still!

Sorry spite probably the wrong word. Got fit out of anger. Was not happy.

I agree he is keeping ben Brown out of a gig, and will continue too I think

53 minutes ago, Deespicable said:

I certainly get the logic of not changing a winning formula and reading Goody's comments today he's decided he won't alter his line-up also with Brown and Weid to play North's VFL side on Thursday.

And I also get that anyone who suggests a change against that philosophy at the moment is going to be howled down.

But I am sorry, I just reckon that now is the perfect time to trial our planned new-look forward set-up which was halted in early Feb when Weid and Brown went down with injuries.

I certainly understood the logic of staying loyal last week against Richmond and it paid off in droves. But there is no logic in keeping an elite footballer like Brown (my understanding he's our fifth highest paid player) in the twos simply because we are winning. 

I mean let's say we win against North (which you have got to say is mega likely with our odds $1.01 at Sportsbet), then what are you gonna say to him - sorry I don't want to change a winning line-up. And what say we win against the following two weeks - home games against Sydney and Carlton - sorry Browny, you have to keep playing with Casey?

Let's say it was Oliver who had been injured, would we be willing to make room for him or tell him he has to play VFL until we lose.

Ultimately we have to confront and trial the three-headed monster and delaying the inevitable is just poor planning.

Let's find out if it works and what tweaks need to be made to it well before the finals. 

I would pay Ben Brown 2M a year to play in the seconds of it means we win every game for the rest of the year.

The problem with your oliver analogy is there are so many variations and roles that the person who was taking his role of he were injured. 

For Brown to get in it's McDonald out. 

It's not the players, it's the system. Richmond don't have a 3 headed monster and they are the bench mark.

McDonald was told to shop around for tis very reason. And I've heard that he is super fit and playing well out of spite for the way he was treated in exit interview. Will be gone next year.

Weideman on the other hand ??‍♂️

I'm happy with a win, no experimenting, no percentage booster just 4 points. Let North come, and they will. This team is in fantastic form and they look focused. Just get the job done and let Footscray play Hollywood football in April, we'll just get a win a move forward...

On 3/5/2021 at 10:36 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

Jeff Garlett Albury Tigers

Matt Jones Wangaratta Rovers

 

Juice Newton at the Wang Magies. Ben Reid came home this year and I'm sure I heard Lynden Dunn was coming as well... Poor old Corowa what hope have we got

Playing as a team, instead of individuals. From the outside Trac or Salem or Oliver 30+ disposals and all the stat sheet stuff will get the supercoach points. I guarantee internally it's no more or less important than Spargo, AND and Melksham.

Richmond won 3 out of 4 grand finals with the same mentality. Hopefully we can do the same.

The best part is we still haven't had it all our own way this year. In every game we have been challenged, and answered, emphatically.

Tough job being a selector...

23 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Daw with 32 tackles! Outstanding. 

Surely not... 

Interesting not picking Weideman. Must be defensive efforts, looked like he moved well and offensively obviously not an issue

8 hours ago, Brownie said:

 

@BBO able to help out?

6 hours ago, Alex Flood said:

I know this might seem wild but is it worth putting him out on the wing every now & then to see how he goes there ?

I agree. I think you can rotate him and McDonald out of the foward/wing

6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

No way Jones is getting dropped for next week. After that ...

I think he was playing the first 6 games this year regardless

18 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Melksham to kick 4 and silence the tiresome conspiracy theory about special treatment for a few more weeks.

Watched his younger brother run up and down the wing all day yesterday at John Foord Oval. His change of angle and kick into CHF reminds me of what Jake done so effectively in 2018. Would love to see his return to form.

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

Some are getting ahead of themselves.

Hope the playing group, aren't. I'm sure the coaches won't be.

It is so easy so drink from the bath.

We have to be switched on against any opposition. 

MFC haven't earned anything yet. The past usually describes the future, and as favourites or front runners we have been disappointing. 

This week is our crucial game.

One game at a time, even one quarter at a time, or one moment, could decide where we finish.

C'mon Dees play in the moment.

 

Supporters and especially media always will. Was it Ratten last week said "it's never as good or as bad" (unless your sacked I guess.

I think for the first time in a long time the players understand the importance of one week, one quarter, one contrast at a time. 

We will beat the hawk's, and move onto Richmond for Jonesy's 300th (and Martins 250th?) I wonder who will get more lime light???

Guess it won't matter when we win.

10 minutes ago, IRW said:

I saw Jones having a long friendly exchange with Selwood post siren.

You guys need to grow up 

6 minutes ago, Jontee said:

And did you see Selwood give Jonesy a friendly pat on the back when the ball went out of bounds.  I think they enjoy the contest,

Absolutely, I coach junior sport and one of the hardest thing to teach the kids is that it's ok to have white line fever as long as you shake hands after the game and can respect the opposition.

The way brown to me went and hugged treloar in the dogs pies game is an example of the wrong way to go about it in my opinion. Oh course they are all friendly but once you cross the white line it's on.

Anyone see the exchange between Selwood and Kozy after he had him holding the ball in the middle of the ground?

I thought I seen another exchange between the 2 maybe at a end of quarter break?

Not sure who started it but I don't mind a bit of lip, especially 4-0. Reminds me of early 2000's Brisbane team.

8 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

We will get off the chain against the lowly bottom 4 Hawthorn and pummel them by 80 odd points

I agree, Petracca to kick 6