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7 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The AFL should all be sacked over this. But of course they will all survive. 
They had 6 months to fully sort this out after the Adelaide debacle, and have done Sweet F$&@ all. 
The Arc is pathetic. They spend time reviewing shots that are clearly fine, but refuse to make serious calls because the Cameras are total garbage 

we the Fans and the Clubs must demand that the AFL fit 4k Cameras at every AFL VENUE 

Paid for by the AFL, not the Broadcaster 

Maybe the suits will have to take a Pay Cut

 

I take it that you are a little disappointed with the AFL. 

2 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Agree here. The AFL boss said they are considering the two incidents on the basis of first the touched mark incident and the dissent incident, with the dissent result still being reviewed, and they agree that the touched was wrong.

Problem is that the second incident would not have happened if the adjudication was correct in the first place allowing the game obviously to a win for Fremantle..

No field umpire would have called touched even when vision showed that the ball grazed a hairfollicle of the docker player. No umpire would have noticed that. 

5 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Have you seen the behind the goals vision BoBo? 
Clark must’ve given the ump an almighty spray after Cottrell kicked the goal because you can see his teammate in Walker waving his arms telling him to stop. 

Yes he did. According to other media reports, it was quite vicious.

I watched the first 20 minutes of play, in which we played fast attacking football, hitting targets and using angles to target players who were in better positions, then everything changed.

I wonder whether Goody and Co were satisfied with what they saw, felt they had seen enough, and did not want the footy world to see anymore. After the first quarter, did you observe any discernible changes to the team makeup or gameplan that might help explain Richmond's 10 goal run-on?

4 hours ago, Macca said:

Rods Dillon was another with a vice-like grip when it came to marking ... but not a great kick for goal

Parke kicked 63 goals in 1972 but his kicking action wasn't great.  But just like Dillon, he could take a great grab

Either would be more than handy right now!!

JVR reminds me of Hardeman a bit but Gary played his best footy as a CHB.  I reckon that JVR can be quite a versatile player so if he spends the year as a CHF, we might see that versatility in terms of him bringing other players into the game

I can certainly see him as a key back taking over May's role in a couple of years. Could be as effective as Moore.

3 hours ago, kev martin said:

Very nice morning for a run around, not too much wind and temperature is perfect. Looks to be about 32 to 34 in full training.

The drills were done with skill and precision. Mainly controlled by Taylor Whitford (VFL coach)

The occasional reference to the super-bowl appeared.

Our new young players lead the way with their skill sets. Windsor, K. Brown, rarely miss, Tholstrup if he slips up, the next action is perfect and the effort he makes is great. Setting great standards. Jefferson has worked well on his tackling, he brought a few down in the sims, taking some marks and getting separation. Sestan doesn't have a defensive game, will need to improve himself through Casey, I reckon.

They continue to rotate quite a few through the mids during sims.

They split into the lines at one stage, mids (McQualter) had Gus, Viney, Tracc, Windsor, Spargo, K.Brown, Langdon, Laurie, Max, KFW, Sparrow, Taj, Verral.

Backs (Chaplin), May, Lever, Adams, McVee, Rivers, Hore, Howes, Bowey, Tomlinson. 

Forwards (Stafford), JVR, Fritta, Kossie, Billings, Jefferson, ANB, Chandler, Sestan, Tholstrup, Schache.

Loved K.Brown's (untouchable), Sparrow's, (field kicking) Viney's (making links), Adam's (holding JVR), May's, (intercepts) and Max's (marking), during the sims today. Sims were run by Goody.

Have you noticed any difference McQualter has made as compared with, I guess, Yze?

This preseason, I have not seen much discussion about Ed Langdon. Is he just another old guard player who goes about his business at training without drawing attention to himself and does what you would expect?

21 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Training resumes on Monday, January 15th at Gosch’s. 

Boy that's a long break.

16 hours ago, BLWNBA said:

Bizarre comment and highly ironic, but then again forums are always the best place to view the vagaries of human existence. 

Maybe learn to contextualise commentary before posting some inane and recalcitrant tripe. 

I never commented on Oliver, I spoke of the team. You quoted my words, so as I said, consider developing the ability to contextualise what they mean.

But please, continue the brave straw man argument. 
 

 

What a bunch of nonsense words! This is what you get when you copy and paste content from one of those writing and grammar apps: a word salad that leaves the reader clueless about what the author has written. Did you actually check what you wrote before you posted? God forbid if you did.

Sestan. Was he noticeable?

My dad played for Melbourne in the Norm Smith, Percy Beames era of the mid to late forties. I didn’t stand a chance

2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

it's ok that's your view I don't agree with it, I just don't wear coloured glasses when I watch football we have faults you don't see them, I called it in 22 and 23 so i am interested to see in 24 how we go about it.

You are obviously not OK with my view. You immediately launch the tired accusation that posters like me and others that have a similar view are wearing coloured glasses if we don't agree with your view. Its kids playground stuff. It is simple to say that the game plan is the issue without providing any support or logic. Its lazy commentary. I find it unbelievable that you then double down on it and gloat about how perceptive you have been over the previous two years. Are you that single-minded that you cannot accept other explanations for the recent failures in finals?

20 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Hate to tell you good teams make changes when they have to we one a flag in 21 and was bundled out in 22 and 23 in straight sets so do you think they will go with the exact game plan next year then?

Of course not. Despite the belief held by many posters on this forum that our gameplan has not changed since 2021, it has been adjusted each preseason due to changes in our list and the way the opposition has responded to it. However, once the season gets underway, successful teams adhere to their gameplan, so when players are injured, there are VFL players available to step in and carry out the plan. The issue we faced last season—which I previously discussed—was that we lost so many important players, leaving us shorthanded. The cupboard was bare. It is difficult to suddenly and drastically alter a system that players have become accustomed to and react instinctively to something different, especially during a finals campaign.

6 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Good teams make changes and by the way we didn't beat the pies and we are.

Good teams make little changes to their gameplan(s). They back their system over the opposition. That is why we don't have taggers in the game anymore. 

32 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

In 21 the game plan was contested football bring the ball down boundary side contest to contest worked well, we then went into 22 with the same plan and if you look it up I said after i think it was round 10 we would not win the flag with that forward set up said the same thing about not winning the flag in 23, sides figured us out but we kept doing the same thing. 

Which brings me to your second point we did not have any contested forwards to play that type of game plan regarding forward entries, so if it was our inability to execute the game plan who's fault is it then as they say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, remember we 69 entries into the forward line against the pies to 37 what does that tell you?

Whilst adding Billings, Fullerton and McAdam should help I hope Goodwin changes how we move the ball forward I also hope he uses Kossie in a different way and by that I mean like the pies used Hill and Elliot, he goes no further than the half forward line full stop and then leads back and stop trying to take mark of the year all the time.

We have a great backline strong midfield but need an outside runner as we are one paced there, Langdon and Hunter need to get away from playing boundary side and create more inside run. but thats the game plan at the moment and I hope it changes and i'm sure it will.

In closing we create enough forward entries to win games but need to change how we go about it to win the next flag.

 

 

 

It tells me that we didn't have a forward line. We lost Petty and Melky before the finals, and we lost Gus in the first few minutes, so Tracc was forced to play more minutes in the midfield rather than take a leading role forward. It got worse for the Carlton game when we lost JVR. If these players had been available, I think we would have defeated the Pies and we would not be having this conversation about our gameplan.

2 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

The band’s back together!

SOOO good to see Gussy. i got a greasy hug. Sunscreen everywhere. He apologised, I said worth it just to see you looking so well. He noticed my Demonland T-shirt, I told him everyone on DL loves him and are stoked he’s playing on.

Noah Yze is here! Looks like his dad.

Kozzie looks great, so fit!

Today’s session is easy for me to explain… running. Running, running and more running. Poor bastards, I’m knackered just watching them 🥵 

Maysie just walked past and said “this is the worst, I [censored] hate this” 🤣

The rig on Tommo!!! Apparently he just ran the fastest, according to my buddy who timed them. So, not official. But hella fast. 

 

Is that TMc or Tomlinson? I assume the latter.

14 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Might also come in handy taking a few boys under his wing as a mentor.  His training standards have always been top class, and (dare i say it) he can punch above his weight….

Nice little intro to the punchline. 🙂

7 hours ago, Debamboozle said:

McAdams issues in Adelaide were preparation and fitness based. He would not do the off season work and would come back underdone. In trying to get up to speed with the rest of the team, he would invariably get injured and get further behind the eight ball. From there, it always became catch up through the season.
 

Apparently that’s why his best footy, most consistent footy has been played at the back end of the year when he has somewhat caught up fitness wise. 
 

Hopefully the change of environment at the Dees will help with his professionalism. 

And where did you learn this information, BigFooty? You seem to be implying that he is lazy. Perhaps Burgess did not manage him properly with his injuries. It's on record that Lamb really targeted him, even knowing his history with injuries. 

As luck would have it, the father-son rules might be changed in 2025, potentially requiring clubs to forfeit first-round picks in lieu of point accumulation.

It would be perfect if WCW could do the boundary-riding interviews and the other guys could do the training drills etc.  

45 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

That’s one way of looking at it. We also lost the QF because we were physically challenged early and we took time to find our game. We then watched as player after player choked in front of goal…. Then we lost against Carlton because we were horrendously undisciplined, burnt our team mates and failed to put away a weaker opponent…… Then we have the off field issues which we can’t and don’t need to discuss as we all have seen it play out.

Sorry that you think it’s unreasonable of me to think that all is not rosy. Our last game against Carlton was not played by a club in good shape. 

I agree with what you say, but the issues you raised have nothing to do with culture. We obviously had to rework our gameplan after losing our key forwards before and during the finals and losing Brayshaw in the first few minutes of the QF. We didn't have the time or the personnel left to adapt.  This may have contributed to the way we played against Carlton. Looking back, I think we did extraordinarily well to be in a position to win both games.  

10 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Well it’s not like we don’t have some cultural issues. 2 years running straight sets, Oliver, Joel Smith and the rest of what’s going on. We deserve the blowtorch and we’re going to get it. I say bring it and see if this group can take another step or slide into mediocrity. It’s 50-50 at best as we sit, at least that’s my opinion. List wise we should be winning or losing Flags not semi finals.
Fix it!!

We have lost the last two finals because, quite simply, we lost our forward line due to injuries and there was a disconnect in our gameplan. If this is your idea of cultural issues, then get in bed with the media and bash the club. Without going over the personal struggles a few of our players are facing—personal struggles that all clubs, Collingwood included, face—you have chosen to side with the media crowd and declare that there must be a cultural issue. You have no idea what has happened or is happening behind the scenes, so your post is just a rehashed version of what is said in the media. Do you have an original thought?

13 hours ago, Deebauched said:

Alot of soccer players come from hellholes like central and south America and Africa.

Those guys would literally run to the airport and never look back. Go home to hell factor not applicable.

That’s very Trumpian of you. Disgusting comment from you again. 

2 hours ago, adonski said:

We don't really have a medium forward that can play midfield besides Trac, I reckon it makes sense 

I hope Sestan can take the next step. He's not small, 188cm, can take a good mark, is hard at the contest, and certainly knows where the goals are. I hope he can put in a good uninterrupted preseason.

I think Windsor will start well behind Howes, Woey and even McVee for a wing position in 2024. I hope we just let him settle into the VFL system first and build his tank.