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Zac Dawson and Andrew Dunkley say hello

Outs: Watts - should have went after last week but definitely needs at least a month at Casey Howe - the effort has been missing for the last two weeks (bar about 20 mins in last weeks second half) Byrnes - we have better options Terlich - can't fault his endeavour but the turnovers kill us Ins: Strauss/Clisby/Toumpas - 1 of these to either take Terlich's position down back or start as Sub and allow Salem to start the game Kent - if fit comes in to play between HFF with rotations through the middle Riley - another hardman required who can assist in the middle Garland - no brainer if he's fit he is in for some poise down back

6.M Jones 5.Pedersen 4.Dunn 3.N.Jones 2.Vince 1.Jamar Cross and TMac are unlucky to miss out and some very good signs from JKH & Salem.

Disappointed with the loss, but bring that intensity against the likes of GWS, Suns, Dogs, Tigers, Brissy, Saints, Blues & Meth Coast and your in with a shot of winning some games. Sydney are very well drilled and their run and spread is where we need to get to. Pretty sure by second half of season to seasons end those not doing the basic non-negotiables will be running around for Casey

Yes because its all about stats FFS putting his body on the line - yes shepherding/blocking - yes and lets also look at the quality of the disposals and his awareness

Bollocks those days are gone, take note from the improvement in Dunn, Pedersen & Jones. Players who put effort in will prosper under the new regime, they know what to look for in players

Just seen 10 minutes of him but boy he looks so good with the ball in his hand and keeps his feet well, not to mention bullet like quality disposal by foot. Christian Salem you look the goods already and play with purpose

You got that right and I'm going to start again it starts with small things You can't wear red or the lighter blue as your clash you have to wear white. Why Well red is a dark colour so all teams must have a light jumper and a dark jumper But on Anzac day when it is a Pies home game they wear predominantly black and the Bombers wear their normal jumpers We play Gold Coast at home and they can wear red We play Meth Coast away and have to wear white We play Meth Coast at home and they can wear the royal blue We get home games at shocking times and against sides who don't draw a decent crowd. I know we have been bad for a few years but FFS at least give us the opportunity for an open playing field in regard to fixtures, if no Friday nights than a fair amount of Saturday Arvo/Night games at the G I would think

Sorry Dazzle my apologies, should have done my homework and looked at who posted on Barretts comments

It is not an exact science and we are not robinson crusoe in picking the wrong ones Chris Egan, Oakley-Nicholls,Kane Tenace, Beau Dowler, Beau Muston,Fergus Watts, Mitch Thorp, Laurence Angwin, Cayden Beetham, Andrew Mcdougall, Ryan Fitzgerald, John Hutton, Riley Dunn and I am sure we could go on forever

Agree mostly although the Swans seemed to get their grunt back last week

Might help that the players seem to listen and respond to Roos

On todays performance Carlisle is not a forward but I rate him as a defender, not sure on his contract situation but if he wants to play down back, may be worth having a word in his ear

Gives everything and does the jobs which he is asked to do, can't fault him for that. Yes he has deficiencies but if we had his effort and attitude across the list we would be a lot better off than we currently are. Well done Rohan and I hope there are more to come for you

AF (good initials those) Bad choice of word in "again" by Barrett but went off on a tangent when Gary said what ever again Storm in a tea cup

FFS just watched it who started this thread, Dazzeldavey try listening to things in context and not sensationalising things. It is what we all criticise the media for Talk about a play on words, discussion about meeting next week due to lack of responding to current treatment. Barrett - Jesse Hogan has not responded to initial treatment and right now there is significant on when he will be able to play football again Garry then interjects with "what again at all" or this year Barrett is not committal and just says again. Barrett then goes on about speaking with Mahoney and a time frame of being hoping he will be back in the next month, but there is serious doubt on that being the case He then asks Dawes who (as I said earlier) talks about the club not rushing him back even if that means him not playing this year(although Dawes says he does not believe that will be the case) because the club sees him as a 10 year player. That is where it ends

Don't agree, Scott Thompson is also on record saying there were some issues between he and Danners. Jurrah is just from a totally different background and Mitch Clark is beyond injury. Luke Shuey & Scott Gumbleton are two I can think of off the top of my head who were injury riddled for the first couple of years and have felt indebted to the clubs who looked after them. Hoges is a unique kid in more ways then one. Once the club keeps on the right track with Roos and recruiting the right players he will stay.

Overs, O'Rourke's & Jaksch will both have done their 2 years at season's end

FFS are you people really that naïve, isn't this the same Damien Barrett who only recently reported that Dawes was still at least a month away.

No it doesn't but it certainly evens the ledger and certainly reduces the odds on getting absolutely pummelled. It's why we got within a point of the Pies round 2, 2010. I don't believe in honourable losses but if the boys give everything and leave nothing in the tank and do their best I can't ask for anything more.

In the West we are two hours behind so FS not started yet, but I hope Gary took Barrett to task if not he should never let him forget any ridiculous claim that he may never play. FMD you only have to look at Tom Hawkins 2013 to 2014 to see how different a rest for a back injury can make. But being the staged show it is they will continue to introduce this muck raker as the number 1 story breaker in the business. Hoges had back issues when he was younger due to (non medical term) issues with growth spurts along the lines of the top half of the body outgrowing the bottom half but he got over them fine. As I have said before he is a 10 year player and this year whilst frustrating requires kid gloves to be used. My understanding from those who have played with him over here and word coming back is the club wants him to get everything 100% right and he is just really frustrated at not being able to get out there. Having done the preseason and the year in the VFL he was busting at the seems to play AFL this year. Don't worry he will be fine, patience required

I hope your joking

Absolutely no way we let Hogan go, seen this kid in the Development squads, Colts, his NAB 2013 & 14 and live last year vs the Northern Blues. He has shown all the traits as a once in a generation player. A must keep

He is done, has gone one season to long and No thank you unless it is in a coaching role

Been an Evertonian since I was 4 years of age Saty, first time in my lifetime we have beaten United home and away in the same season. I can't thank Moyes enough for delivering us Martinez!