McQueen

You cruel bastard. Still, I will save my biggest ever whinge for this thread when we trade Toumpas back to Adelaide as part of the PD deal.

Why couldn't you change the story to "fearless pig dogs" instead of Border Collies. Would've had a better ring to it..

102 points! I can remember when Birre were the power team back in the early 90's Are the finals still played at Central reserve in Colac?

TIC

Ollie is the reason Port are playing finals. Hell, if we'd drafted him we'd be playing off in a prelim this weekend.

You have seriously got to be [censored] me.

Ollie Wines.

Petrie actually acknowledged Tom on Grandstand as a really promising up and coming young defender.Maybe a forward who's been in the game for over ten years is qualified to make such statements compared to the rest of us guru's.

What are his contract details?

I support your way of thinking but I'd say Michie for pick 54 will pay more immediate dividends.

2012

He hardly inspired at Casey. That's usually enough criteria right there...

If Trengove can no longer run fast, I suggest they bulk him up with another 6 KG of muscle and get him bullocking out of the clearances to help out Jones.

We lack midfield grunt and from what I've watched of Wines he goes alright in that department. Granted that we also need players like Toumpas and considering we were assured of Viney it's logical that we chose Jimmy before Ollie. Still too early to call IMO but on the back of yesterdays game I feel a lot better than I did when Wines burst on to the scene at the beginning of the season.

Like I said above, I don't disagree with Neelds general sentiments. I take umbrage with the way he's thought it would be somehow beneficial to Jack and the club to raise more scrutiny on the kid when he was obviously in need of support and private mentoring/coaching. FFS, Neeld had been at the club for all of two months and barely knew the kid but felt compelled to make these statements to the media to which they gladly took and used to add more salt to the wounds.

Try this on for size. Maybe it'll fit that imaginary scapegoat. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/lift-your-game-melbourne-mark-neeld-tells-jack-watts/story-e6frf9jf-1226193140413 Neeld at his best shooting off at the mouth to the press and adding more pressure on the kid. I don't disagree with much of what Neeld would like Jack to aspir to but what gives him the right to carry on like this in the press? You just don't get it, do you?

This is what I'm trying to explain, Crawf. Watts is behaving like a professional but his belief in himself has been hammered by how Neeld has managed him. I'm sure he'd love to be performing according to his pay and winning games. It's not as simple as you think.

Maybe he is trying relative to how he feels about playing at the club.

This is the crux of it Billy. Neeld has only just started to listen now after getting smashed in the opening games. Going along with your analogy, if you're top employees think the guy running the company is a total [censored] because of his autocratic ways and is not prepared to listen to their thoughts, it would be a simple decision to move on and make similar money in a more attractive environment. I said it in the Time to Go thread that Neeld just may be able to coach the game but the mistakes he's made and the damage he's done at an emotional level with the players is a massive variable. If he can't win these guys back over at a subconcious level then they will walk. I really do hope I'm proved wrong and Neeld turns it around but until that starts to happen we will be struggling to keep our better troops.

What's the worst that an happen here? We swap pick 13 for him and he turns out to be a dud in a few years time. Situation normal.

Jamar was a rookie, not a number 4 pick. And look at what all those years of waiting brought us..

Cavity search.. http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/13291046/not-again-ben/

What smacks of ignorance is that many clubs feed there palyers caffeine pills during a game for the extra energy and the quick hit. Talk about a pre-cursor of things to come for those that are easily swayed.

You've hit the nail on the head. Latest vison of Ben arrving back into Perth this morning shows him smiling away as if nothing is the matter. It's his way of dealing with it - complete denial. Just like that of an addict. Addiction clouds rational thought.

No. He chose to take drugs some time back. I bet he's never said "hey, I'm going to be a drug addict."