angrydee

lives around the corner and is a nice, if somewhat intense man. Takes angry pills regularly, though and has a whiff of the inept one about him.

And Norf

Carlton can't afford both Daisy and Jack. And according to player managers scuttlebut Daisy is off to be with father figure Micky.

The most important player is the one who wins games for the team; whose loss means you have far less chance of winning. Since we so rarely win, I have no idea.

Titan, I don't often agree with you - but, IMO you are spot on this time. We met my expectations of improvement last night. We are coming from behind GWS. As long as they keep improving, wins will come.

WYL, I think you' re watching the game coloured by your biases - magnifying every negative and dismissing the positives as "well, they're only to be expected". Trengove was one of our better players last night and led by example. Whether you like it or not.

Some of us appreciate a good bottom, WYL

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As does mine. Mine told me me that if the bookies would hold it, he'd back the rooster with plenty. His info strike rate is very good. But the chicken entrails and the tealeaves tell me nothing!

Considering we lost one of our best players and were a rotation down for the last 40 minutes of the game, I thought it was a really gutsy effort, A number of players willed themselves to contests in the last quarter - something they never did under the inept one (I can't type or say his name as it makes me vomit). I want a win as much as anyone, but tonight was not worth the vitriol that I have read on here tonight. Some of you should hang your heads in shame!

Umpires seem to know that melbourne players have nothing above their shoulders - that's the only explanation for the lack if high frees

A weak opponent that have won 4 of last 5 including Geelong and Nth. Very weak!

Stockdale has already white-anted this club enough! He can GAGF>

Can't appoint until season's end

As the gnome said in his presser a couple of weeks ago - there are plenty of conversations and commentaries on it, but we'll leave it to the independent body to decide what we get.

And anything YOU type is gospel. FMD

My being delusional and almost senile.

The big question is whether this thread will reach a hundred pages by round 23,

Of course it is. Misson should have been messianic - not turning water into wine, but turning kids into brick outhouses overnight.

Can't let the facts get in the way of total negativity.

Big IF

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Masten pick 3. Morton pick 4

Great performance - 2 ineffective kicks 1 almast tackle. Plenty of hovering. One high five to Darling after one of his five goals