Moonshadow

Soft cop out response

FMD! ..... one more time..... Calling an Indigenous Australian a monkey or ape is not the same as calling a 6'7" full forward a gorilla, nor the same as calling a redhead Ginger, or someone with big ears Dumbo. WAClark summed it up well earlier in the thread: "for those who think that calling someone an ape/monkey is fine/excusable, these sorts of comments have a history, with a lot of old "common science" pointing to the physical traits of indigenous people as being more primitive/less evolved, none of which ever held any water and were essentially authorised racism. When someone says these things, it is a re-application of these horrible views. Ignorance on behalf of the person saying it is not an excuse."

You moved fom Knockers to Bokers? What a waste bjDee. Go back to where you came from

A shite stirrer

Translation please

Humanitarian Roos? WTF are you thinking Picket?

Given you know them, could you say hi from me?

Says the man typing alone in a dark room

Could you stop calling me Jeesus? Your adoration is admirable, but try not to be so obvious Biff.

Very true. On the one hand it's desirable to give fringe players about 6-8 games in a row to find out where they are at. On the other, when the match ups are wrong these guys are the first to be questioned. Add the fact that we have shallow depth and are desperate for wins, well...... I like Fitzy and think he has more upside to see. But at 200+cm and with a very particular skill set, it has to be about team balence against each opposition.

Er, not sure which century you are in jnrmac but these are all true, by and large.

This was a game we needed to win. We tend to beat the same old teams each year (the few that we do) and never scalp a big win over a team that should be top four. Bulldogs beat a top 4 side, GWS did, Brisbane have. We needed to beat one of Haw, Port, Syd, Freo or Geelong to clearly give the fans hope.

Nothing at all? Interesting you say that because three of the five reasons you claim Goodes is not liked relate directly to his race. And I disagree with your OTT summation of all five.

Ok then, so it's his fault that his Wikipedia page was changed to include pictures of apes? Typical blaming the victim mentality. Nice one.

Not linked to racism at all.... "Racist vandals have attacked the Wikipedia page of Adam Goodes with monkey pictures after his post-goal Indigenous war dance sparked a debate about racism in football." From The Age today.

Kick a bag today Cam!

He will be when I run him over in Todd St.

Especially when it's your own, eh?

That made me lol ET. Well done sir.

If you read Henrietta Lumbago's post it's because he doesn't "blend in", which is the same line of logic Allan McAllistar used when president of Coll before Eddie took over. If you don't know of this incident it's worth checking out. Frightening stuff. Adam Goodes is a huge role model for indigenous players, he stands up for indigenous issues and calls racism and bigotry for what they are, probably more than any aboriginal player who has played. He is proud of his race and is the face of indigenous australian sports. He's also widely respected amongst the afl community, hence he is the chairman of the AFLPA. Sure he has been known to stage for a few frees, like many, many players (Brad Green anyone?) but they don't get booed remotely the same amount. He's also arguably in the top 10 players to have played in the last 20 years, with 2 brownlows, AAs, premierships, B&Fs, etc. Champion player for sure. I think the core of why Goodes gets booed is because he's a vocal, proud and well spoken Aboriginal man who has a large profile. Many see this as arrogance, other just as him standing up for himself and his people, especially given it's Indigenous Round. I also think there are a large number of 'sheep' who boo at the ground because others are booing and it's now a trend at Sydney games. Dumb supporters. Stick a cute kitten on the field, get someone to start booing and they'd probably join in for the hell of it.

^^^ this. Thank you tim.

And so you should. It suits you.

'Reverse racism'! FMD, Now I've heard it all....

Shite thread. Well done Picket

Carey and Goodes play 250-300 games for the MFC! I would've loved to see that. Now you're talking! Would be club greats for sure. You need to put aside your bigotry Henrietta and understand Goodes if a great of the game.