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Moonshadow

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  1. 17 minutes ago, binman said:

     

    I agree the big issue for the dees is not the top 12 players, it is the next 28

    Yes, we have a band of players beyond the top 12 who should be roll players but simply do not have the skills to fulfil that job. The roll players at Richmond are able to minimise errors or turnovers that cost goals. I note that several players interviewed after the game last night mentioned "the process", trust the process, or execute the process well. Even when they were behind in the first half, these guys knew if they played their roll it would turn around.

    As a side note, North will have a stack of vacancies on their list. Brown, Higgins, Polec and the 11 delisted already. Possibly more. I suspect if they cannot attract players beyond Corr, they will look to load up on picks. How they do that well with no coach or assistants is another matter. Will be an interesting trade week

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  2. 5 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Hopefully he is directly involved in the running of the Football Department 

    (Speaks regularly with Yze and Goodwin)

    Are you implying it is a way of having him in the FD without being included in the FD soft cap?

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  3. 1 hour ago, A F said:

    Sure, but is Green the most qualified to do this? We shall see.

    Agreed A F.

    Few, if any on here are seriously against the appointment of Greeny, but its very healthy to ask questions of his relevant experience. Only a fool would would accept him on the board without seeking clarification.

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  4. 33 minutes ago, Neitz the Great said:

    Honestly either enjoy the fun rumours on this thread (which may or may not be true) but some people have a good record, or just don’t come to the thread. 
    You’re not held with a gun to your head, if you don’t care about it just don’t bother coming here and give everyone else a break. 

    Thank you for telling me what I can and can't do.

    The posters with inside mail (as opposed to rehashed bigfooty or fb rumours) have not posted here, and are not likely to

  5. Still not sure why Green is on the board. Does he have business accumen? Has he worked in management? What exactly does the board role of 'football' mean? 

    Needs to be explained what skills he brings to the board outside of being an ex MFC player and assistant coach, which are FD roles

    Not sure being an assistant coach cuts it as experience for a board position. Or perhaps he is there to work on our forwards set shot routines at training

    Loved him as a player and captain, just unsure of what he brings to the board

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  6. 11 hours ago, Biffen said:

    Couldn't be more IDGAF.

     

    Indeed. The thread for self aggrandisement with little to hang a hat on. To be followed by back peddling or 'told you so' about the obvious in a week or two

     

  7. 32 minutes ago, Pates said:

    I think something that was suggested earlier is a good idea (though very unlikely to happen), make the top 4 teams exempt from being able to participate in free agency. If they want a player than they have to do a deal. 

    Limiting it to top 4 means that there are still the fringe clubs that might just be missing that key ingredient still able to get a player with minimal fuss. 

    The only thing I’d say is perhaps create a separate category called veteran FA, these are the guys that are nearing retirement and best years are behind them. They should be totally unrestricted.

    But blind Freddy would’ve seen what was going to happen with Free Agency. 

    Interesting that GWS look likely to match the bid by Cats for Cameron and force a trade. They've enquired about Parfitt as part of a trade. If no player is involved, at least 2 of their three 1st rounders would surely be in the mix 

  8. 54 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    The modern corporate equivalent of brown paper bags I suppose 

    Yes, indeed. Wouldnt be too hard to do on the sly, but it only takes one fu** up to have it come out and the AFL to be pushed to act. Look at what that lovely fellow Brock McLean did last time!

    I wish someone would give me one of those new brown paper bags, Uncle!

  9. Wasn't sure where do put this.

    The Age has an article with SOS whinging about his departure from the Blues last year and how badly it was handled. How the club recruited badly and pushed its salary cap.

    Could he have just hinted that they are worth being investigated?

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/amateur-to-be-honest-silvagni-lashes-out-at-the-blues-20201021-p5671d.html

    "our list wasn't in a good state and neither was our salary cap"

     

  10. 2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    The rules say they should be included in the TPP (unless for approved and declared 'marquee' payments) as it is a form of cheating the salary cap.

    MFCSS says if we did it, some disgruntled ex-player, ex-official would 'sing' and we would be fined for 'not doing something everyone else does' ala fine for 'not tanking'.

    Yes, would be just our luck

    However, Jaguar could 'loan' a player a lovely new car for the terms of the contract. Or Tourism NT 'gives' a family holiday during the off season to a recruit. Or a sponsor sells a block of land at a remarkably cheap price along the coast to a sister of player X

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  11. Didnt a club just recently offer a new car to a player as an incentive to swap over clubs? That one is pretty obvious. Any range of sponsors or like minded companies can offer incentives outside TPP.

    Salary cap is for appearances only. Typical Gil. Nothing to see here!

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  12. 2 hours ago, Jaded said:

    Who was the last 'big' name that went to those 3 clubs? Martin... he's getting paid $1.7 million front ended.

    Case closed. 

    At the time, these were big names:

    Dylan Shiel and arguably Devon Smith.

    Brad Hill and Jake Carlisle 

    And as you said, Jack Martin

    But it would be correct to say big names are more likely to move to successful clubs. Not always. Most players play for 1) Success, 2) Money and 3) Mateship

  13. 2 minutes ago, A F said:

    As I mentioned the other day, the positioning of our list is very Richmond 2013-2016. An elite core with some decent support players and then a marked drop off at the bottom.

    We've now even got the Martin going to North equivalent with Clarry to Carlton. It can turn quickly.

    I reckon Richmond's Brownlow spread would have been similar in those aforementioned years to ours tonight.

    Fix the system, bring in Yze, two or three other highly rated assistants, add Brown, Smith, Phillips and a speedy pressure forward or two and we'll be in the top 4 mix next year. The competition is soft. Richmond can't keep it going forever, Geelong are getting old. No one else scares me. 

    In the last 4 years I've regularly thought we haven't seen the 'worst' 6-8 on our list improve much.

    I say worst becsuse anyone on an AFL list is obviously a reasonable footballer, to start with

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