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Cannot blame poor player development, we now have in Brendan McCartney who is known as best in business. Like Toumpas there are players who are just not up to it, give JKH another year though, he's still young!!

Not that this sort of stuff phases me anymore, but I remember the first time I heard Carlisle talk, and within the first sentence, you could tell the bloke was a complete bellend.

He grew up in Craigeburn FFS, that's all that needs to be known

The worst part about all this was having to watch the Current affair story. Damn that show is just painful to watch.

Horrible show but can be like watching a car crash

He's owned up to it, nothing will happen apart from a fine

It is in the genes! Expect Trenners to be in our best 22 again this year!

Yeah, Jack will be back

I don't know why he even comes out to say that. I get that it's a bargaining chip and he's just playing the game but at the same time, don't put yourself in a corner. At least say, "I would think 3 and 7 are untouchable" and then if asked if they would be traded for the right deal, "Well it would need to be a pretty special offer."

If Sydney offered us Kennedy for pick 3 and, say, Watts + 43, we'd have to take that.

Reckon Kennedy too old to waste pick 3 on, he's 27 with 3-4 good years left

Couldn't give a rats tossbag he's gone, very average player who very occcasionally did something spectacular, same as Natanui, media have orgasms over them doing 3 things a year

Howe will go but Watts won't

Great, now I have Peter Griffin stuck in my head on a loop.

Thanks.

But I'd be all for Bird coming to the MFC.

Haha first thing I heard too, Peter Griffin......singing bird bird bird is the word

One of the absolute greats. 2 brownlows and even underrated for mine. It is a shame he declined the 'lap of honour', but he will be remembered as a champion of the game. Possibly the most versatile footballer to ever play the game. Dominated games out of the ruck and as a midfielder, doesn't get much better than that.

He declined lap of honour for fear of racists in crowd, and with thousands of West Australians there I reckon he's done right thing, don't want to give scumbags ammo

At least someone remembered to celebrate Adam Goodes on Grand Final day: A Lap Of Honour For Sydney Swans Legend Adam Goodes

It's left up to a newbie, obscure mag.

The 'lap of honour' photos are terrific and say a lot about the man.

It will be interesting to see if the AFL does anything during today's motorcade to recognise him.

It will be a shame if he 'goes quietly into the night'.

A final goodbye is greatly deserved.

Wel done to the Huff, not that obscure, been reading it for years, good fair journalism, unlike Newscorp or anything with Murdoch's fingerprints on it.

Now the imbecile Abbott is gone and he's taken imbecile number 2 with him in Hockey, we just have to prove Turnbull is just another right wing nut job but in an articulate package. Abbott is a twit and easy to be rid of because of his IQ being in single digits, it was to be his downfall in the end. Abbott only knew one way and that was to bully and stand over people, and Hockey was a dumb fat idiot!

Turnbull different kettle of fish but he will be brought down soon because he's in a party that is full of right wing extremists, people are realising the conservatives are delusional and dangerous!

In your face Dangerfield & Hartlett. We re-signed Pedo. We win.

Never thought I'd say this but Pedo is hard at it and good value

More interested in hearing about a 6-9 yr deal signed with Hogan.

So that leaves two places on the rookie list. You'd have to think that VandenBerg gets elevated. I would have though Harmes has shown enough to be elevated as well. So we'd be looking for 2 rookies next year. Good point suggesting rookying Hunt, so maybe only 1.

Hogan will probably sign next year, he's still with us till '17

So he is probably coming to us. I say probably as it hasn't been confirmed, but it's likely going off what we know.

I'm not a huge fan but I'll back the club if, and it's a big IF, we can trade something that equals his value. Bombers will know our first rounder is too high and seek a second rounder... which I still think is too high. I'd give nothing more than a third rounder if possible, but the Bombers won't go for that.

I'm hoping like hell we don't go overboard to get him.

Says in article that we are his likely destination, so we must have been talking to him

So much hate. Abbott sure isn't the worst PM in history the 3 before him have that sewn up. Kevin 07 / Gillard / Rudd.

Like him or hate him as you do, he did what he campaigned and was elected to do. Stop the boats, abolish the carbon tax and abolish the mining tax. Any fair minded person can see that a PM who does what he/she was elected to do is on the right track. If Shorten campaigns to block the FTA with China and wins a mandate at the election I will think it is crazy but expect him to do it when he takes office.

Stop the boats, Stopped carbon tax, abolish mining tax, thats all he did and are they good things? He lied on just about everything, people like you who don't see the lies and deceit by Abbott&co are rusted on conservatives who would vote that way if Pauline Hansen were the leader

Not keen on Shorten myself - I'd prefer a socialist.

Yeah, Shorten too right wing for a real Labour man

Stevens can certainly hold a grudge, it was over a decade ago FFS, get over it buddy

Worst PM in history of Australia, Billy McMahon's family can now say our Billy wasn't the worst PM because Tony 'lizard man' Abbott takes the title....good riddance you racist, sexist. homophobic turd!!!

I hate this piece of dogshyte, he is the most loathesome person in media, hate the turd and will not listen to him again

Most important records to break next year:

1. Winning 2 games in a row.

Until we break this embarrassing record we will never go anywhere

2. Beating North Melbourne

Because I hate their guts

and Hawthorn because I hate their guts..

If they wanted to trade Watts don't reckon would have dropped him, reckon he'll play anyway

Watts dropped is interesting. I am not bothered with it though, hes just not that good of a player.

Though I would have dropped Howe before him.

Reckon Watts will play, don't reckon NJones will come up

Also saw interview with Robbo and Howe on Melbournefc.com.au and he seems to be saying all right things about staying but reckon he's gone

Finally WATTS got found "wanting", a definite liability. So much for all you Watts fans out there,just curious were you the same supporters as Colin Sylvia? One has skill and no guts the other has no skill and has guts. DAWES,HOWE,GARLAND watch out the footy grim

repeeper is just around the corner. GO THE DEES in 2016

Watched last weeks game again today and Watts was found wanting last week, lacking in confidence and deserved to be dropped