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Not yet....give him another solid preseason and a good long look at what Nathan Jones has achieved and he may.....or would you rather just dump him now and start again with some skinny rookie?

I have always rated Shane more than many here, (and certainly more than Bailey did) for his sheer grunt.But you mention a trade - with whom?

A guy called Norman Smith had an absolutely awful first two years, 1952 and 1953 - if we had a Demonland back then I guess many would be labeling him a dud and calling for his immediate dismissal!!! As they say in the classics -- the rest is history.

One can only hope so....they will probably sack him in a couple of years when they fail again.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/we-want-cloke-says-judd-20120829-2514l.html So it seems that the blues players, senior players, have been whiteanting Ratten for a while.

Yeah...I guess all of us who remember regular flags are starting to see a bit of that.Hang in there.

Next......pink batts, cash for clunkers, sack Rudd.....are you the ALP's chief strategist??

Yes, yes and yes.All the aforementioned have different problems requiring different solutions that each need to attend to forthwith, or depart. Some are doing it, some aren't.

So you are suggesting that he has failed to follow the instructions of the FD - in which case he should move on to a FD that doesn't care about that sort of thing, like MFC pre-2012.

.......with or without a parachute??

.......so he is definitely off to Port then !!???

.......and Cale, Brent - if either ever play for us again. I agree to a degree with your reference to JW, but part of the apparent lackadaisical approach MAY be that he is good enough to look as if he has more time than most others. MN is one hell of a scary guy - looks to have spooked #22 out of his wits.

Well said. Jonesy could maybe take Jordie under his wing starting in this off season and guide him on his way to Demonland universal redemption. I can think of no better mentor for him.

No...the Fev one is probably incorrect.

So, other than no David Cloke and son, what else did he reveal?

the hounds like RR and old dee will be leading the pack by the sound of it.

It is all becoming crystal clear regarding Cloke's poor form this season -- he is learning the ChickenwingCheaterFC's speciality, tanking!!

Well some of them seem to think they are God.

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And, Harcourt, do you have an alternative plan?

I think this sums the situation up perfectly. If he does have the sulks, or won't or can't do what the coaching staff want of him, then arriverduci.In retrospect a good move that he isn't in the 'leadership group' as he hasn't the temperament.

"Poor character" - better off without folk like him and families like his!

Jamar, Martin, Spencer, Fitzpatrick, Gawn.........Sellar and Clark as back ups. At least one and preferably two need to get an extra string in their bow to become 'indispensible'. Fitzy could develop as a good KPP forward ?Salmon like; Stef does well as a KPP defender. Maybe our tall stocks are looking up.

?...and Essendung in the same round. All too sweet. Karma, Brock. And tanking maybe does have long term psychological effects. And the eye-gouging chicken-winger will have to wait again for finals glory!! LOL

This is getting very tedious. Just bring it on and some will be proven right, and some wrong!!