old dee

Oh please it is only one person's view. Last time I checked we live in a democracy you are allow to express your view even if it turns out to be wrong. Hold it together. If you get so up set talking about JW then don't read the items that way you can be bliss fully un aware Of the ramblings like mine that don't suit your view. Have a nice day rpfc The sky won't fall because of my view. He will probably kick 4 on saturday and we will all be happy.

You are right "rpfc" I do not have much patience for him. I try not to enter these discussions in the hope that a couple of years will pass and he will be wonderful. However I watch him play and I cannot get over the feeling that he gets game after game when his results suggest he should be playing at Casey. Obviously much better minds than mind believe he has what it takes and it is just a case of game time. Believe it or not I hope you are all right. But would he get all this game time if he had been pick 30?

Not much interest in that one.He will be there worthy or not!

My God I think that is a bit too far But if it gives you joy!

I am sure you are jesting "steveheals" however Fev will be long gone by the time that gets up!

So the reason JW has had poor games is the fault of the Mids! I am sure Bate will be happy to hear that and is no doubt telling Bailey " boss i would have kicked 6 if the mids did not ignore me. They kept kicking it over my head! I will admit They have not been great however if it is all the fault of the mids then JW,MB and I have another ordinary year ahead in 2011.

Some very good players are not physical I think JW is one of those types. If he is to be a good player he will be a lead up player who kicks goals or takes good marks and transfers the ball on well to a player in a position to score. By 19 I think you have shown your desire to win the ball at all costs you either have it or you don't. That does mean he will not be a good player it means don't expect him to win the hard ball Or burst open a pack. IMO it will not happen no matter how much bigger he gets.

Leaving aside the fact fact that some footballers make poor decisions in the space of a split second Why would you ignore Watts to go to a contest? it is not as though he cannot mark or kick well and he covers ground quickly. Why ignore him? Why bring up his age? Do you thing the guy with the ball thinks oh he is only 19 I will kick it to him when is 22!

Well now we are getting a larger part of the story "longsuffering" thank you for that insight. There may be more to this than I thought. Is Fev the straw that breaks the camels back?

I did not get to the Brisbane game funnily enough I was in Brisbane however if what you say is correct ( I am not doubting your word ) It points to a bigger problem than his ability. Why are players intentionally ignoring him? - They have poor vision - They do not expect he will win the ball or trust him to use it properly or the worst one of all They do not play to him because he is "Jack Watts" No 1 Draftee who gets to much attention. I have seen this last one before and it can destroy players and team results. The old attitude of " if he is so good let him go and get the ball himself" or " why should I make him look good he gets paid twice as much as me for half the result. I seriously doubt it is the last option but who knows why he is ignored. I just hope you are wrong but I have seen it a few times last year.

He is not actually signed yet to my knowledge however the decision is made so why not just get on with making the best of it! We have put our case to Casey. We will not achieve anything if we just get into a continuing agruement with them. That will effect the way some of our young players develop.

Sorry to disagree with you but I find it very difficult to believe that the figure is only $250k. I believe it is a lot more. Clubs like Essendon who are not short on cash continue to have an affiliate. If the figure was only $250k they would have their own team as would Hawthorn and a few others.

You make a lot of sense Deevoted. Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water just yet.

If he were to put in another game like Essendon he might be a chance to miss out. But we have carried him through some poor games up till now so why would we stop now. It is more likely after round one IMO. A loss to the swans and a poor one from Watts would be the receipe for a game at Casey.

I agree, one disagreement does provide grounds for jumping out of the arrangement. If that was the case most marriages would struggle to make it past the first month. Lets all take a breath and get on with it!

I am not joking we are all getting worked up about things that probably won't happen. At Sandy and Casey there have always been cases where their team selection took priority over MFC needs. That is what happens when you have an alliance and not your own team. Why do Geelong and Collingwood have their own teams? So they can get their own way all of the time! We along with most other sides cannot afford one so lets get on with doing the best with what we have. By its very nature an alliance will always have differences of opinion. Sometimes that means you have to "suck it up" this is one of those occasions.

yes if we get belted ( which is a possibility based on recent form and our efforts against the hawks in recent times ) It will do wonders for our membership drive!!!!!!!!!! The Casey thing is a small annoyance, a big loss to the hawks will hurt more.

IMO This is all a storm in a tea cup! Fev will be there for at the most 1 season, He will not be fit enough till at least round 3 -4. If he shines he will find a home elsewhere in 2012, problem gone. There is always the chance he will go back to his old ways and Casey will fling him, problem gone As for having our own reserves side, no chance this side of five years. We simply cannot afford one. It also appears to me that The MFC have so far got more out of the deal than Casey The last two years we have left Casey hi and dry with almost no MFC players avialable after they made the finals. Lets worry about the game tomorrow!

Me too Current all looks and no action. Hope I see the real thing on the park soon!

Here is a big prediction Folks "Campbell will not play a game for the demons at AFL level!" Reason: big guys with poor injury records do not get over serious Achilles problems easily. I have the feeling our gamble with him we be a flop. Probably not a big loss however dissapointing he may not get on the park.

For the next 11 rounds then decision time arrives! In the same way it does for a lrge number of the players every year.

Oh please get your head out of your posterior! The guy has coached two different teams in two different eras to Premierships plus a number of grand final appearances. He got an inferior side into two GF's against one of the best sides of the last 50 years and almost pinched one. The guy can cut the mustard. He is welcome any time at the MFC for mine.

Don't get too excited it is not over the line yet!

No C&B he will be great in 2015 problem is will I be alive to see it!

Everything you say is correct. However I had hoped we had improved on this time last year but it appears we have not gone very Far at all. Thats what worries me. It appears that some of the problems of the last three years are still there eg. over using the ball in defence. Why you would handball to a play in a worse position than your self never ceases to annoy me. A close tag on Davey makes him useless. Slow starts, when are we going to come out fired up from the first bounce? God I hope you are right "carn the dees" because it looks like a long season to me!