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I was there when Warwick Capper took this mark on Chris Langford’s shoulders with his feet above his head!  
 

Probably the best mark I have ever seen live.

5 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Remember the game well, clocked up 10km in set shot run-ins.

Good point. Ben Brown had five shots on goal that day (three goals, two behinds), so maybe 200 m of his 17.3 km can be attributed to run-ins based on his 30 step routine. This assumes all of his shots were set shots.
 

Run-in’s were not a significant factor for his record - the guy clearly has endurance.

You’re probably right, but we need to remember that we are comparing him to Van Rooyen or Fullarton to provide ruck relief for four minutes a quarter. The rest of the time he will be playing forward where he could be a competent third tall.

I honestly have no idea how he would go in the ruck as I can’t recall him taking a ruck contest in his time at the Dees. In general play he seems to do a decent job of tapping the ball to our advantage in contested packs, so it’s not out of the question he could hold his own.

Our game style has not allowed us to see the best of Ben Brown. As our key target, he has often been left to compete in two-on-one contests in a congested forward line. With Van Rooyen and Petty now the main targets it could free up Brown to play the third tall and support Gawn in the ruck. (At 200cm his height is exactly the same as Fullarton.)

While I am excited about Fullarton’s potential, the thought of a fit and unshackled Brown playing this role excites me more. 

The guy can also run. He holds 15th place in the AFL’s all-time game distance record at 17.3km - only 6 players have ever run further in a game since records began.
Against a third tall defender his long leads to the wing and doubling back to the goalsquare could play to his strengths and make him quite formidable. This to me makes more sense than converting Grundy to a forward.

Does anyone else agree?

I think we should either buy Haynes& pick 15 off GWS or find a sweetener with Grundy for Swans pick 11.

Then offer our first three picks (all first rounders) to West Coast for Harley Reid. If he really is a generational player who will slot straight into our midfield, it frees up Petracca to move forward.

On 9/21/2023 at 4:47 PM, defuture15 said:

He sounds ideal in the TMac up the ground role

Even as a tall winger

What really dissappoints me is his lack of presence and physicality.

Feed him up and tell him he is the new Hawkins?

Completely agree.

There is no doubt we should be chasing a bonafide A-grade forward/ruck. But while we have him on our list, we should also be doing everything we can to help Schache reach his potential. He still has enormous upside and has shown glimpses at Casey of what he is capable of. I hope after a big preseason he surprises us next year.

14 hours ago, goodwindees said:

Guys, I can let you know that the lifestyle story around Grundy to Sydney is not quite correct. More accurately is that Longmire impressed far more than Hinkley and the two 23 year olds Ken brought to the meeting. 

It is also looking likely that JJ will also select the Swans. 

Interesting insights goodwindees.

Would Grundy and JJ for Swans pick 11 be on the table? Maybe a swap of later picks to even things up.

Why not just use Josh Schache. He is probably a better and more experience forward-ruck backup option than the other names suggested.

According to his draft camp he also “has top-end endurance for a player of his size (he runs a 14.1 beep test) and he works over his opponents.”

Maybe that’s why we extended his contract?

25 minutes ago, BigMacjnr said:

Latest article on it says AFL are talking about salary dump meaning you can only smooth out 20% of the salary. 
 

I like the trade as Haynes would be an upgrade on 3rd tall defender with Petty forward and give our younger developing defenders time to develop while we compete for premierships

Interesting. A 20% discount brings Haynes salary down to $960k. Grundy is on $650k.  One other senior / experienced player leaving would free up the remaining salary cap needed.

50 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

We'd effectively be paying around $500k for pick 8... certainly worth considering

Have not watched GWS in a while. How is Haynes playing these days.

Pity he's not a forward

Not sure, but here is the statistical comparison of Haynes this year to Petty last year. 

With GWS rumoured to be considering a salary dump with Nick Haynes, I wonder if we could accomodate taking him and their top draft pick off their hands? (Like the Cats did with Jack Bowes last year.)

If we could find the $1.2m required for the final year of his contract, we’d get an 192cm All Australian defender to free up Petty to go forward, and pick 8 to package with pick 5  for pick 1 from West Coast to get Harley Reid. This allows Patracca to play forward more.

Haynes is 31 and his existing contract back-ended so his ongoing salary probably more like $600k at a guess.

Surely something worth looking at if Grundy leaves and others retire.

One curious statistic on the weekend was the 16km differential between the total team distance run (Data curtesy of the Telstra Tracker - Swans 287.5km v Dees 271.6km.)

Despite the Dees having 3 of the top 4 runners on the night for every player on the field the Swans ran about 1km more than their opponent.

This is usual and as there were only a handful of games in the AFL this year which had a greater differential although of these examples, the team that ran less did not always lose.

Maybe we should offer to pay all of Grundy’s salary in exchange for a fourth round draft pick.
 

Then the Pies free up more salary and we head into the draft with two first round draft picks.

Just on game day “entertainment”, has anyone ever actually won a prize for one of the competitions on the field at quarter time or half time? 

Another great piece of analysis on our game from the ABC for all of you data nerds - this time on clutch players and the art of winning close games.

A glowing endorsement to Cameron Zurhaar who tops the league table in terms of % of his team's close fourth quarter scores. Imagine what he could do at the Dees!

Though not mentioned, Petracca and Oliver rate amongst the best in the league for share of first possession at stoppages, with Petracca lifting significantly in final quarters.

Also interesting to read that this year for every 100 times a team wins the ball in a game, they score about 71 points. That rises to 91 points from 100 won centre clearances. It goes to show the importance of our contested game style.

2 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

Do you mean straightening the off ramp to become parallel with the elevated Monash Fwy and terminate at Punt Rd closer to the Yarra? That's a great idea.

Would require traffic lights at that point, rather than the northward merge currently next to Goshes. The advantage would be that traffic coming off the Monash could turn left or right at the new Punt Rd intersection rather than just travelling north.

This would completely open up the triangle to Goshes parkland

I hadn’t thought about that but it is a great idea. Potentially you could have both – a tighter arc that rolls into Punt Road heading north and a fork to some traffic lights at the bridge to turn south as well. Win-win all round!

21 hours ago, damodees said:

I personally think the "empty land" is the best location for the home base.

It is the closest spot to the soon to be redeveloped Gosch's oval and it faces a main road which is excellent for marketing. All we need is a small footbridge over the exit ramp to connect the oval from the empty land.

The issue with Car Park F is that it doesn't face a road and is still a couple hundred metres from the oval. In saying that however, Car Park F still much better than Car Park E

I wonder if any thought has been given to extending the bypass arc into the empty land to replace the road next to Gosch’s paddock? It could be done without any significant traffic disruption and could connect the facilities to the oval. 

13 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Unreal.

It's just incredible that this is us doing this.

The plaudits will rightfully come for Gawn (Naitanui can go [censored] a [censored], tonight put to bed any "debate" about who is the competition's best ruckman), Viney, Petracca and Oliver, but this was a 22-player effort.

Langdon's run on the wing was far too much for their wingers. Brown's contested marking was critical, particularly early when the nerves were high (and another quiet two goals). Brayshaw looked composed. Spargo was a threat all night. May went down but Petty stood up. Hibberd played his role.

That third quarter. That rush of goals. Gawn playing like Dustin Martin.

It was just, well, perfect.

And never mind that our opponent happened to be the most arrogant, smug pack of [censored]s. That just tops it all off.

How about these stats for Langdon. More than 50% more sprint efforts than the next best person on the ground.

According to Cal Twomey’s late mail on the AFL website....

Melbourne has an eye on Werribee VFL defender Kye Declase, who trained with the Dees over summer, and has also shown some interest in marking defender Daniel Turner. 
Does anyone know much about these guys?

How about Toby Bedford for Langdon. He has the tank and has been in good form.

According to Pert in the article below the Dees will be training all year at Casey. I thought it was just for the preseason?

“So we’ll train all of the pre-season and all of next year out there. The ground is MCG-sized and in amazing nick.“ (Gary Pert.)

AFL club Melbourne welcomes A-League’s Melbourne City to Casey Fields

https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/a-league/aleague-southeast-melbourne-to-become-the-new-home-of-melbourne-city/news-story/a2797f235610c79d22d1d0a391246806