Bobby McKenzie

Hunter is a really good get. His kicking is great which is just what we need delivering the ball to our forwards. BUT, no more bouncing the ball near the boundary and seeing it rolling out of bounds. Could be a great foil for Ed on the other wing.

After watching, like many others, the 2021 GF yet again I decided to compare other finals series since 1990 when the VFL was renamed AFL. In  the 2021 finals, our mighty Demons team had a  winning average of 63 points.and was only surpassed by two teams over a period of thirty two years. Essendon in 2000 had a winning average margin of 73 points, Geelong in 2007 had a winning average of 76 points. Pretty impressive I reckon and something to be proud of. Geelong, in this years finals had a winning average of 52 points by comparison.With a team not crippled by injuries I reckon we could have taken the cats but we will never know. Wasn't buddy pathetic? Next year, we will rebound if we can get those injuries sorted. Looking at the replay and the team photo, I reckon a small, tough and talented red head should have been in our finals team. Go Jake in 2023.

7 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

In years to come, when you look up the definition of "journeyman" in the dictionary, Mitch Brown's name will be there. Something like 14 years for 79 games (plus 100 VFL games, or thereabouts). 

That is in no way meant to denigrate a fine footballer who tried his best. And that's all any of us can ask for.  

Mitch was a great club man and used to give a few of our stars the run round at training.eg Jake Lever. All the best and so glad you finished your career with a premiership. Maybe you could play a few games with the Old Mentonians and enjoy yourself next season..

I hope South Melbourne will win and win well. Want to see Scotts face if this happens.

If you want to win a Brownlow don't be a defender.

All Australian Team Defenders votes in 2022

Tom Stewart 6

Steven May 0

Brayden Maynard 0

Jack Sinclair 9

Sam Taylor 1

Adam Saad  3

Key position players FB( May) and CHB ( Taylor) just 1 vote in total. Unbelievable!

1. Melbourne  94 votes

2. Geelong  92

3. Carlton  89

=4. Sydney/ Fremantle 83

=6. Gold Coast / Western Bulldogs 75

=8. Brisbane /Port 74

10. Richmond 73

11. St Kilda  72

12. Collingwood  62

=13.  GWS / Adelaide  50

15.  Essendon  46

16.  Hawthorn  45

17.  North Melbourne 31

18.  West Coast   15

Collingwood's low total of just 62 is surprising and West Coast's miserable 15  must be some sort of record.

Steven May with zero votes  amazed me. He had some ripper games. Oh, I forgot ,he's a defender!

1. Melbourne  94 votes

2. Geelong  92

3. Carlton  89

=4. Sydney/ Fremantle 83

=6. Gold Coast / Western Bulldogs 75

=8. Brisbane /Port 74

10. Richmond 73

11. St Kilda  72

12. Collingwood  62

=13.  GWS / Adelaide  50

15.  Essendon  46

16.  Hawthorn  45

17.  North Melbourne 31

18.  West Coast   15

Collingwood's low total of just 62 is surprising and West Coast's miserable 15  must be some sort of record.

I completely endorse what other positive members of this forum have said. Negative, whingeing  posters are not helping the cause. I am so happy to see that we have many people who can see where our true destiny lies and don't slag our players and staff. Watching a replay of our crucial last home and away match against Brisbane we played our best footy for the year. Sadly injuries ruined  our chances in the finals. Petracca showed amazing courage in our semi final but he just wasn't able to be the powerful champion he is and we missed that important factor.

One remarkable feat was that for two whole seasons we were never out of the top four. Quite a performance in this highly competitive industry.

I have no doubt we will bounce back next year in a big way. I am sticking to my belief that our BEST is superior to any other team.

I shall now happily sit back and look at the premiership pennant and large team photo of an amazing team of players who last year produced one of the MOST DOMINANT performances in finals of all time.  I also break into song singing the old ditty "They can't that away from me. No, no they can't that away from me" as I look proudly at the pennant on the wall. My wife thinks I'm crazy and she's most likely right. I am CRAZY about the team i have supported for over seventy years. Go my mighty Demons !

9 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Premiers last year, then win our first 10 games of the season.

In comes the Bye, then we fall into a huge hole and out of finals in straight sets.

What the hell happened??

Simple answer, injuries. We just didn't have them last year. Injuries, or lack of, can decide who is going to be premiers.

13 hours ago, old55 said:

So far we are infinitely ahead on the selection with Jackson a crucial contributor to our premiership while Young would not have improved the flag backline.

Jackson's market value is higher than Young's, if he does leave let's see what we turn that into.

We've got Bowey outside the 22 and Freo seem to rate Jackson very highly. If I had the choice between Jackson and Young in our 22 this final series there's no doubt I'd pick Jackson.

Basically, the chief reason I started this post was to say that SHORT term, Jackson was great( who could forget his magnificent GF performance?) but LONG term Young would have been a best bet to have in our team. Sadly, it seems highly likely that Jacko will be leaving us after just three years. It seems common that West Australians want to return to their home state and picking them always carries a risk. Young is a Victorian and most likely would have been with us for his entire career. Sorry I trod on the toes of a few sensitive posters. That's it from me. QED.

2 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

The reference to Russian propaganda is the use of big, superficially credible statements that have to be picked apart to refute but which are quite obviously detached from reality upon inspection.

Also, keeping with the Russian theme for a moment; "Ukraine bombed its own people in the occupied areas so they wouldn't report how well they were being treated by Russia" is an opinion and also most definitely propaganda. Opinions aren't some magically neutral ether, so do civilization a favour and take that out of your rhetorical toolkit.

Also also, it was flippant remark on a level with the silliness of the new thread.

"We lost at the draft table when we chose Jackson over Young" because "We lose Jackson and now Freo have both" and also "Jackson's last game wasn't good."

Totally bypassing;

a) that Jackson was the best player available in the draft at pick 3, possibly overall.

b) the value that Jackson has already provided

c) that Young, while a very good player, is only about 15% ahead of an injury-riddle Salem at the same age, and would not be a game-changer for our list.

d) that judging a 20yr old (premiership) ruckman on their single most recent game is just silly, particularly when they were far from the worst and kept up the effort levels even when things weren't working for them.

e) that to get Jackson, Fremantle will now have to give up significant trade value, which we will receive.

I like Jackson, but the fact remains he most likely is leaving us and we could have had Young. So, are really saying is that my opinion is not important on this forum?  Imo you are definitely wrong when you say that Young  would not be a game changer on our list. He already shows so much skill and maturity. To play so well in his first final shows his talent. I don't know how you can formulate an actual percentage difference when comparing him with Salem. Time will prove one of us right. Let us agree to both disagree on this topic. Cheers, Little Goffy.

3 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

Imagine Hawthorn supporters' disgust at drafting Buddy from WA (pick 5), then leaving Hawthorn in the middle of his career for an interstate team .... when they could have had John Meesen (pick 8) for his entire career!

At least you would have been happy that we had a whole career of Jack Watts, rather than that West Australian Nic Naitanui.

What a terrible, terrible post.

Comparing John Meesen to Hayden Young is not on. Silly comparison indeed. And if we had chosen Nic Nat he would be back in WA and we wouldn't have our champion Max Gawn. He would have been forced elsewhere. Maybe not such a terrible post after all.

3 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Bobby Mckenzie contributing his impression of a Russian propagandist.

So having an opinion is propaganda? And Russian as well? Well I never. With comments like that mate maybe you are just a little Goofy.

5 minutes ago, demoniac said:

Did you watch the 2021 AFL Granny?

Many, many times. But we lose Jackson after three seasons when we could have had Young for his career. Re  Jacko though, did you watch the game just played against Sydney? Didn't do much did he?

Sadly, we lost at the draft table when we chose Luke Jackson over Young. Hayden was interviewed by Melbourne and according to close family sources (reliable information as they are close friends),he had told his family that he was going to be a Demon. But the powers to be changed their mind and opted for Jacko. What a win for Freo! They gained a champion defender and its all but certain they will get Jackson as well. Hayden is a great interceptor and those long ( and I mean long), accurate kicks are sublime. But its no use crying over spilled milk is it?

6 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

It was directly in front on the run without pressure. 

A fairly elementary kick at that level, not sure it needs a lot of love! 

Except it could and should have been a WINNING goal!  Scored right in the last minutes of the game. Goal difficulty doesn't come into the equation. Putting us back in front was the issue and should have received more praise from his team mates.

On 8/9/2022 at 3:00 PM, adonski said:

A wasp could play ANB's role

Just buzzin around, being a nuisance 

So it would be better if ANB  didn't bother to tackle and let his opponent run free? He is vital to our success. Read what Max said about him in his book.

3 hours ago, Sideshow Bob said:

He certainly a different cat big Cox - certainly super nice and engaging to talk to away from footy.

unfortunately everyone from every club gets stuck into Max - knees to the guts, off ball blocks, shoves and very rarely gets gets any umpire protection. What annoys me more is our players don’t seem to notice it just like the umps, I think it’s Max just gets up and goes along like nothing happened. If he was my teammate I’d be flying the flag and getting stuck into anyone that touches him. We don’t and it’s a blight on us 

I wouldn't say our boys didn't respond immediately after the Cox kneeing. Looked pretty fiery I thought. We don't want them all getting reported do we?

37 minutes ago, jane02 said:

I saw him at the supermarket last week and was very tempted to ram my trolley into the back of him. I’m not a violent person but he irritates the hell out of me.

You should have Jane. And bloody hard too. 

What a mongrel act by Cox. Knees Max in the guts and only gives away a free.Not going for the ball. Just a free? Surely a deliberate , dirty  action like that is a reportable offence? What do others think?

1 hour ago, David-Demon said:

Absolutely No-way.  Neal-Bullen is a damm good player, tough as nails and needs to STAY.

ANB is so important to his team with his many pressure acts. Dropping him would border on lunacy. He always does what is required and is a wonderful leader in our forward zones. Couldn't agree more with David-Demon on this one.

18 hours ago, layzie said:

It's not Jordon from the massive falcon he copped?

So who was the mystery player that was cited as having concussion? Nothing on the injuries report. Stirring the pot Lord Nevr?

17 hours ago, old dee said:

Joeboy is far from a fair weather supporter BK. He has been saying it as he sees it through one of our worst periods in history and beyond. Our performance last Saturday was poor not too many players deserved praise. 

Fair enough old dee, but he does make some ridiculous comments, one being that age has caught up with our mighty Maximus who played a wonderful game. Cheers, mate.

21 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Seriously though.

We are not a dominant side. We are a side that relies on non game day coaching to win. 
pretty much all our players are worse or breaking even on last year, I think our coaching is worse than last year. 
been thinking it for a while but we won’t pass prelim week if we even make that. 
Last year was a epic run. No repeats here. 
 

truly hope I am wrong. Time will tell.

Have faith.  You don't lose natural ability and skill overnight. Let's see what happens in the next few weeks.