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  1. 4 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

    Noting that Rucci from SA reported differences with Adelaide's fitness staff during the trade period

    My reading of that AFL article is simply that McAdam won't be joining main training.

    Yes, the article does say he "will complete a training block away from the main group" but the article also later says "The South Australian has spent most of the pre-season training away from the main group."

    Is it any different from the usual rehab? Most likely he will be in the gym/pool/physio until the nerve issue has settled and he can start running again. 

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  2. 58 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

    Thanks LH fantastic effort, the list is starting to get really tight again how do we manage to squeeze Brownie in?

    LH can probably confirm, but I think if we want to guarantee that we can get Brown in (ie. that we can match a bid during the draft) then we will have to delist and promise to rookie two players - Melksham and maybe Schache.

    That would give us 3 spots available for the draft (6, 11 and Brown). 

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  3. 3 hours ago, 640MD said:

    This second point

    Fremantle with 3 first rounders of 2024

    they must be serious about something next year.   Is there a number one next year from the west or someone going home?

    And can we benefit ?

    a long time to look ahead I know

    but it’s contemplating time

    Acquiring assets to facilitate a fair trade isn't really Peter Bell's MO, but the two big WA names that come to mind are Logan McDonald and Tim English. 

  4. 8 hours ago, Nascent said:

    I just can't see us trading a young key position player without an adequate replacement.

    WC: ..... Darling?

     

    Would you be tempted by 10, Adelaide F1 and McAdam for Petty.

    Then 6, 10, 11 to WC for Reid and Darling.

     

    Deathride 2.0

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  5. 1 hour ago, Sydney_Demon said:

    Well, the issue is that picks 5, 10, 13 will likely be 7, 13, 18.... because at this stage North will get Pick 3 as compensation for a Ben McKay move to Essendon  plus a likely Pick 11 as AFL Special Assistance, and Gold Coast will take 3 Northern Academy picks (Jed Walter at 2, Ethan Read at 9, Jake Rogers at 12; according to Cal Twomey's latest rankings). 13 could even become 19 if Jordan Croft decides to nominate as a Father/Son and is taken by the Bulldogs at Pick 11 (Cal Twomey).


          

    I agree that the North compensation pick will affect the value of our picks. Our current pick 5 becomes Pick 6 based on the latest reporting.

    But Academy and Father/Son picks don't affect our value. With Pick 6 we have the 6th free choice of 'open' (non-aligned) players. If Walters and Read and Rogers all get jammed in before us, it doesn't matter - we still have the 6th free choice of a known pool of players.

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  6. If the Bulldogs do beat us to Pick 4 as mooted, I think we should then target GC's newly acquired Pick 10 with our second round and later picks + most likely a future pick would be required.

    Would be awesome to walk into the draft with picks 5, 10, 13 + Kynan Brown.

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  7. If Brodie wants to go, we should ask him to commit to 2024 with us and if he still wants to leave then we will facilitate a trade.

    In terms of 2023, it is too late/risky to start trialling forward setups that include Grundy for significant periods of the game, but after a full pre-season the combination could be workable. 

    I imagine his first preseason was predominantly focused on working with the midfielders, rather than as a part of the forward line (and the Essendon game showed the Grundy-backline connection was wanting).

  8. 4 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

    I can see it now.

    Trade out your first round pick for some salary space and some 'points' picks.

    Recruit a top 5 quality player under father-son or some other priority, using the points picks.

    Recruit a free agent with the spare salary cap space.

    See also; club established in the top 8 or top 4 is able to continually trade out their first pick for salary cap space which lets them continually recruit free agents who don't cost draft picks, are willing to take less pay for the chance at finals, and place minimal demand on the football dept soft cap.

    The 'feeder club' cycle would be complete.

    Yes. The NSW and QLD clubs in particular would love it.

  9. I was stuck at home today, so I tried to find a way for Melbourne to get value for Jackson (if he doesn't re-sign with us).

    I tried to channel our list managers focus on overall outcomes and came up with this 6-club megadeal which actually kinda makes sense.

    Things we know or are strongly rumoured about this draft are:
    1. Brisbane need points for Ashcroft & Jaspa Fletcher.
    2. Western Bulldogs and Lobb are interested in each other.
    3. Rankine wants to go back to SA.

    Preconditions for this megadeal to work:
    1. West Coast need to be willing to split their #2 pick (makes sense to bring in a crop of WA youngsters)
    2. Gold Coast need to be willing to trade up from #5 (acquired via Rankine) and #7 to #2 (this could be the opportunity cost required to have a shot at Cadman)

    Anyway, in the end the Dees would end up with Pick 5, Pick 20, Freo's 2023 1st round, Gold Coasts 2023 2nd round and Meek or Treacy. We would be giving up Jackson and our 2023 1st round (hopefully #18). 

    The full ins and outs are below. Is it a Win-Win-Win-Win-Win-Win deal?

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  10. 4 hours ago, mo64 said:

    The EBA argument is nonsense given the number of players who have re-signed. 

    And of course all will be revealed eventually.

    I think there are two elements of the EBA  that we would actually need to wait for final figures - the final cap figure determines how much we can front load, and also the player marketing allowances.

    Both elements could be involved in the Jackson/Brayshaw contracts.

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  11. 1 minute ago, McQueen said:

    Link here.

    Don't like the tone of the article for starters. 

    It's a stretch to call that an 'article'. A blogger who saw the same 6 seconds of Channel 7 as we have.

    Not putting a lot of cred in someone who writes "The Jesse Hogan trade was the dam wall for this trade period, with picks exchanged in that trade being used for Brisbane’s pursuit of Lachie Neale and Melbourne’s Steven May chase"

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  12. I don't mind the concept of injury replacements, but why this element:

    • Clubs have first rights to re-contract their drafted player or he becomes a delisted free agent.

    It doesn't fit the 'injury replacement' premise of the rule and could open the system to abuse.

    Better model would be that the drafted player returns to their original status - a VFL/SANFL/WAFL/NEAFL player who can nominate for the next National drafts as usual. The AFL club had the benefit of a healthy body. The drafted player received AFL exposure and will likely be picked up in the National Draft at an appropriate draft pick 'cost'.

    But I guess you don't want lower clubs auditioning players for Top 8 clubs to pick off with late 1st or 2nd round picks based on exposed form. So in true AFL fashion I'm going to complicate it by saying the rule should be:

    Clubs finishing in the bottom 6 have first rights to re-contract their drafted player or he returns to his pre-midseason draft status.

    Also, you would think this means the end to carrying any mature backup ruckmen on your list. Draft them young, if not first 22 by age 24, delist and use mid-season draft if major injury.

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  13. 2 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

    This footage of Jesse at Freo’s training facility basically cements them into handing over the two top ten picks. 

    Very bad PR for them to be tapping up a contracted player, getting their fans all excited then trying to stiff the selling club and walking away from the table with egg on their face. 

    Freo have no choice now. They’re all in on Jesse Hogan and will be paying us his due price.

    As a fellow introvert, I reckon Jesse would hate a process where he publicly commits to Freo and then Freo drag out negotiations for the whole week.

    I reckon a deal is virtually done. Wait a day or two into the trade period to look like your negotiating and then make it official.

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  14. 16 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

    Touring facilities doesn't actually mean anything, it's just a way for a club to impress potential targets.

    These days I think 'touring the facilities' is code for getting the medical check done. 

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  15. Forgetting for a moment all the trade and FA compensation minutiae of how these circumstances arise, if you were the football manager for these clubs would you pull the trigger on these deals?

     

    Geelong viewpoint  - Would you trade Tim Kelly and Pick 11 for Pick 7 and Pick 15?

    Carlton or Adelaide viewpoint - Would you trade Pick 1 for Pick 4 and McGovern?

    Port Adelaide viewpoint  - Would you trade Pick 9 and Pick 10 for Pick 5 and Fremantle’s 2019 2nd rounder?

    Melbourne viewpoint  - Would you trade Hogan for May and Pick 10?

    GWS viewpoint  - Would you trade Lobb for Pick 11?

    GWS or Carlton viewpoint  - Would you trade Pick 4 and 2019 1st rounder for Shiel?

    Gold Coast viewpoint - Would you accept Pick 9 for May?

  16. 2 hours ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

    Melbourne apologise to Hogan and say we are happy to let you go but freo are low balling us.

    ...

    We also come out looking like the good guys, as freo are the ones not willing to pay his worth.

    This is the payoff for the 'fair and reasonable' trading strategy seen with the recruitment of Lever.

    The high ground to say to the player and his manager: "We respect your talent and value and have shown than when we target someone we get the deal done."

    "If Freo won't respect your value, you''ll be here for 2019 and if Freo don't come to the party at the end of 2019, you'll have to go to the draft."

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  17. Not sure if this has been posted already, but this Voss thread seems appropriate.

    Has Voss been asked by the AFL to clarify his comment - "our critical decision in 2010 was to try and lower our draft picks and get some good quality talent in" - from this recent article?

    Sounds like something the Lions should be fined a half mil for.

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