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1 minute ago, Redleg said:

Disappointed if Kolt is dropped.

Think you have to give new kids a small run at it, not just one game, especially where the whole side was pathetic and he was far from the worst.

New kids need confidence and dropping him in the above circumstances is not helpful imo.

I think if you rate the kid and he played last week on merit, then you should play him against the Tigers. As you say he wasn’t disgraced and was surrounded by senior players who weren’t up to par.

If they play Laurie as a sub I will be equally disappointed.

Re Noah. I think he is a bit of a late developer. He wasn’t focused solely on footy for a while there. 
The knock on him I heard was about athleticism and hardness. But that was 2 years ago. He may have matured since then. 
Like all father-son prospects. I want him to come to us and be successful. But also not cost us much in terms of draft considerations.

22 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

haha I thought the same thing. Yze was more of a winger who could go forward.

Started forward.
 

Daniher moved him to half back.

Then opposition coaches decided that he was too dangerous and he was moved up the ground again and rotated from deep forward to mid. 

I think half forward would’ve been an ok description.

7 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Grounded and well spoken. Sounds like he's fitting in well and getting great mentorship from Viney. Hopefully his positive mindset helps him thrive at the Dees!

Couldn’t have asked for less support from the senior players.

I thought he was ok but needs time. Hopefully he gets another crack at it against the Tigers.

His marking and body work this year have been disappointing but as @rpfc pointed out, changing the way we bring the ball forward could alleviate a lot of the problems.

Its a good signing for us.

I’m feeling a Jack Viney special against the Tigs. Our contested ball numbers and clearances aren’t up to our normal level and he will do something to compensate.

I’d love Trac to tear a game apart too. He still has another gear to go.

On the negative side, I’ve come to the sad conclusion that van Rooyan is not a great mark. I gave him pass marks previously but the double grabbing and inability to win the big contested marks has worn me down. Please prove me wrong JVR….

Back to the OP, I liked how happy Viney was for Kolt. Viney’s legacy with the younger generation will hold us in good stead for a generation.

I like the coaches award. Most accurate award in my books. AFLPA MVP is garbage. Brownlow is worse.

It’s interesting that of the top 25 we are only represented by 2 players. Over the past few seasons we have been well over-represented. This year I think it’s reflective of a more evenly distributed team effort.

On 05/04/2024 at 16:23, whatwhat say what said:

great call on the enright comparison

If West Coast were smart they’d be targeting McVee to go home. 
He’s young, classy, shows great leadership, is well suited to Optus Stadium and plays a super important position very well.

We are very lucky to have him

I always feel quite calm when Judd is in the contest with his opponent or looking for options with ball in hand. Great temperament for a very difficult position.
 

Howes is getting there too!

2 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Braahtn to Sandy - you could almost risk one of the EVs without too much range anxiety, if driven carefully. 

That reminds me - didn’t he miss quite a bit of time with some sort of hip / pelvis injury? 

Yes.

17 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

On Curnow, how can't that be considered tampering? So basically you choose your destination because of your relatives? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

If we rated him higher than Weideman we would’ve drafted him. I knew of 2 clubs that didn’t think he was a flight risk to Carlton and would’ve taken him had he fallen to them.

Credit to Carlton, they drafted 2 players and spent the time and effort required to develop them into Coleman Medallist’s. They had the requisite skills and make up but Carlton did something right.
 

We went with a guy who was very highly regarded as a 16year old and injured a lot in top age but ticked every box from a personality perspective except for perhaps competitiveness. 

One thing I am curious about Windsor is his height. He is listed at 185cm but looks smaller on the field. It could be a lack of muscle perhaps. Not sure…
 

What I am certain about is that his speed, poise, aerobic capacity and work ethic are elite already. Add some size, a bit more of the contested stuff and experience and he will be top shelf.

I’d love to see him attend some centre bounces next season as it would add another string to his bow. Something Lingers doesn’t have. (As good as he has been for us since coming from Freo) Windsor should be a 200 gamer if we develop him correctly.

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Curnow was seen as getting onto trouble too much, which is typical pre-draft smoke and mirrors. McKay brothers were always seen as top end talent.

I was surprised with the Weid selection, particularly given the (now justified) hype of Curnow and the McKay twins

Curnow is a weird miss I think. He comes from an awesome family and had a few minor things occur but it was over hyped on the negative. Ask any Carlton supporter and Charlie is the last to leave the track signing autographs for kids, volunteers for hospital visits and generally an all round ripping bloke. 
 

May is his kryptonite at the moment though… 😉 

Reid is a gun and will be a top liner sooner rather than later.

Back to topic, Windsor has pretty much everything you could ask for in a modern winger/mid. I told my 4 year old to get his number on her jumper when she asked me the other day. In my house, that’s the official stamp of approval. 

Wild stuff but I heard yesterday that Trac was sore. Is Kolt there for him? Laurie or Woewodin would step in for Chandler.

Side note; I loved Chandlers game. It’s exactly the type of game I think he can play consistently if healthy. He’s a tough little bugger.

3 hours ago, Jontee said:

We played too safe.  Curnow said he was going to play with his brother so see you later in 2 years and McKay was troubled???

McKay was widely seen as a player that lacked the required hardness and hunger to make the most of his talent. 
 

On talent alone he was top 5 easily.

I watched him live 3-4 times in his TAC Cup days and he would often drop out of pack for the Joe the Goose or sweep past his teammates for the handball receive. He didn’t act or play like a KPF.

Other times he’d pluck the ball out of the air like he was a man amongst boys and dob goals from outside 50 without raising a sweat. I’d turn to a colleague and we’d discuss how frustrating a prospect he was.

I saw less of Sam but felt he was a 2nd round prospect and his lack of games has never really surprised me. 

They are right about one thing. That fella Lachie Jones dropped a lot of uncontested marks. 

This is an ok signing. As mentioned above it wouldn’t have cost us much and Laurie has a chance to repay the faith. 

Also, given the state of our list due to forced retirements and other, it is better to keep a player with upside and who knows our systems rather than delisting him as well and adding a further player requiring additional work just to understand our play.

I feel for Brown. Goodwin has form with decisions like this but Brown was useful last week.

The only thing I will say regarding Brown is that he is so appalling defensively due to his lack of mobility that perhaps he is purely on the list for depth if the 1st choice guys are fit. But then again, having him a sub makes no sense in that context…

Maybe it’s Goodwin’s god complex shining through?

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Well i am amazed Petty has been selected so early. Off the Bench surely. Hope we don’t get any early injuries. 
 

most interesting 

It’s a little perplexing. Petty’s lack of footy aside, I thought the balance of our team last week was pretty good so dropping a mid for another tall seems odd. 

25 minutes ago, tiers said:

One of my most abiding memories of Jack was how he was seemingly ignored and wasted when leading from the forward line. Jack was able to read the play and position himself to best advantage but time and again he was ignored. Whether this was deliberate team plan or just plain lack of awareness by his team mates is unclear but it definitely wasted his enormous talent.

I spoke to a former player about this and he said there were a group of players who didn’t trust Jack as he would often drop easy marks or get out competed if the ball hit the deck. 
 

I agree it was noticeable that he would find space only to be ignored. I also saw him drop easy marks and turn the ball over so I get the other side too.

It wasn’t his fault that we erred in picking him at #1. He was extremely talented but flawed. Didn’t have the right mix of hardness and mental fortitude to capitalise.

One of the best blokes you’d ever want to hang around though. Met him many times socially.

See him regularly at Sandy Basketball courts and he is still the same happy go lucky fella he was when we drafted him. Always up for a chat. Big smile on his face.

I wish him well.

Impressive kid. 
 

I loved how hard he ran to create space and how calm he seems under duress. Good to see some class pushing through the ranks.

I’ll be interested to see the coaches votes.

Considering the work the Doggies put into Clarrie I would think he was BOG with Gawn not far behind. An incredible effort by Clarrie.

Petracca was pretty poor by his standards in the 1st half but was good when we got on top.

A Dogs supporter near me kept yelling, “Bont is better than you Petracca!!!” Eventually I’d heard enough and replied, “That’s ok, Oliver is better than both of them!”