Binmans PA

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The Clare Pettyfor appointment already stamping its influence.

When was she employed? Because it's clear they started filming it last year.

It's a very impressive feature from the club. That's the sort of content many of us have been crying out for.

Great access, really good coverage from a filmmaking perspective. Be great to get these sort of features regularly. Not once a season type thing.

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Bont will never leave, doing so would throw that club into utter turmoil and irrelevance. I also think it would be a burden/luggage for Bont to the extent it will affect his footy.

How do you know this?

1 hour ago, layzie said:

It's nice to see that Binman can suggest on the podcast that we should have cashed in without being completely attacked or called a Judas. 

I do worry about this foot, will know a lot more come mid year.

Petty will come good if he gets some continuity at senior level this year. Simple as that.

11 hours ago, bluey said:

Lack of height plays against him, not a ruckman or a key forward.

I would like to see him up the ground, half forward type.

Lack of height?

He's 194cm, the same height as Charlie Curnow and Taylor Walker...

54 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Thank you!!! She’s due in August, just in time for finals. In years to come she can tell everyone how she was born in a Dees premiership year ❤️💙

Like my boy in 2021. Just have to get him to stop singing that bloody Blues theme song and his latest trick, shouting "go Blues" out the window... 🤦

Congrats mate.

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Until 2029.

Huge signing and shores up our forward stocks.

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1532020/roo-signed-young-demon-locked-in?fbclid=IwAR19jbhp752USNa9B7u8Q6oWQEmVwH-R7AQrg_rBjZoSexRBluKyZ3-J6Bw

 

Now for Petty...

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Need to do a Collingwood with Howe to him. Bring him in as a forward, watch him battle to get a kick, find an opening down back, move him and watch him flourish as the rebounding 3rd tall we need. 

Or just sell him on a defensive position within our system.

15 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

From the lovely guy that is Andrew Stafford in The Age

"Spare a thought for Petracca and Oliver. Both were far below their best, with 38 possessions and just three clearances combined for the match. But the Dees were playing their third game in just 13 days, after backing up a narrow win over Port Adelaide on March 30 with a 15-point victory over the Crows on April 4 for Gather Round. Both games were Adelaide Oval.

Is it any wonder they looked flatter than the Nullarbor? The early start to the season – with eight teams playing opening round and byes everywhere you look – has resulted in some deeply iniquitous scheduling. Collingwood also played three games in 13 days after a shortened pre-season. They will play another three in 13 after their bye this week.

The fixture is contentious enough already without placing such insane demands on the athletes, who need adequate time to recover between half-marathons. Moreover, the staggered schedule means it won’t be until the end of round seven – when all 18 teams will have played the same amount of games for the first time this year – that we will truly know where clubs sit on the ladder.

In an attempt to compete with the NRL’s Las Vegas adventure, the AFL has only succeeded in further distorting the fixture picture in a way that serves no one except broadcasters."

Nah, what's he saying? How dare he proffer that fitness has anything to do with the result. Why doesn't he just come out and say we're loading?! Bloody excuse maker.

57 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

I think it's hard to fluke those six goal bags . One of which he had last year. He's got the skills....I think he's down on confidence.

And fitness/conditioning.

Petty is clearly trying to make up for an interrupted pre season, which isn't helping his form.

As he gets more match fitness across the year, providing he doesn't get injured again, I expect him to start owning the forward 50.

1 minute ago, No. 31 said:

I was in the park with my young son a few weeks ago and out of the blue [pun intended] he starts singing "We are the Navy Blues ..." [proud Dad moment, lol]. I didn't teach him, he heard it that morning on the car radio (3AW or SEN, don't recall, was just catching some sports news when driving on a Saturday morning and the Blues won the night before). Kids can pick things up quickly.

I hate it. But the Blues song does sound like a very, very dull children's song.

23 minutes ago, rpfc said:

We have a young team, changing the way we play, and have question marks on some important players. 

This will not be an isolated problem for 2024. 

I'd be very surprised if Viney, Oliver and Petracca have an equally worse game together ever again. And that's where it was lost last night. In the midfield.

2 hours ago, rpfc said:

Can’t win when your midfield gets smashed like that, and outworked around the ground.

We will find out 12 days whether it’s an anomaly.

It has to be an anomaly given it literally hasn't happened since 2020.

I'm not sure I've seen it mentioned in this thread yet, but not having Kozzy for the way we defend and try to turn the ball over or maintain territory, cannot be overstated enough.

Our forward system relies on his explosive pace.

As Lever intimated in his post game interview, we got our strategy wrong early and in the last quarter, we went more attacking. IMV, if we knew we were going to struggle arousal wise for 4 quarters, we should have started attacking from the top and then dug in to defend a lead.

I think we're making too much of stoppages at the moment. Of course, we need to get better, but last night we were useless in the contest, with all our mids banged up, so naturally we were smashed in stoppages.

In previous weeks losing stoppage has meant we cab slingshot, provided the post clearance pressure is good enough. Last night at times it was non existent.

Furthermore, I'm on record saying the ruck position is the most overrated position in the game. The reason Max is so good is his marking around the ground, not his tap work IMO. He taps it directly to the opposition more often than tapping it directly to team mates, and the strategy this year and towards the end of last year was to take the ball from the ruck as often as possible and get territory. I think it has its place as a strategy if we're being beaten soundly at stoppages, but not as a first option. I'd much prefer him tapping to his feet and allowing our mids to shark or defend the opposition sharking.

5 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Reminding them their team died in 1996 shuts the mouthy ones up pretty quickly I find. 

Don't you worry I was saying it to them all night, but they kept up...

1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

Brisbane only had two further days compared to us (they played the Thursday night in Round 3, we played the Saturday night). They also had one fewer day's break into this week compared to us, and they have been on the road back-to-back. Having said that, they had a bye before they commenced these three games.

Did the fixture really cruel us that much more than Brisbane? 

They had the bye. In no other elite sport in the world would you play 3 games in 12 with the near identical personnel.

You look at soccer, they play a second string team for EFL and FA Cup ties and ring the changes in midweek games.

Their sport is also less physically taxing not only in the kms run, but in the sheer physicality.

It made a huge difference. You could tell we were out on our feet by the second quarter.

Oh, and I maintain what I said about Brisbane supporters in the run in to this game. They are as smarmy as Zorko and whichever nuffy sledged Petty about crying again.

Clearly we had a bunch of our best players underdone (Trac, Viney, Clarry, Brown, May and Petty), but I do think we made a tactical error that was clear by the middle of the second quarter.

We played the 2023 game style with a really aggressive press without Kozzy - so as opposed to the deeper lying defence that we've played the last few weeks.

We also refused to set up for the switch from stationary situations at half back, and went long down the line far too often from this position and from kick outs, which slung shot straight back to Brisbane forwards.

We knew we were going in underdone given the 3 games in 12 days (insane, this doesn't happen in any other sport in the world and think about how physically and emotionally taxing the modern game is), I think what we should have done is gone really hard from the start and tried to put some points on them, and then accept we'd fade away in the second half. Instead we went too defensive with ball movement from the top, and what broke this strategy down and made any strategy impossible really is our contest around the ball and in the air was just horrendous. So perhaps even with the above strategy we'd have been in a fair bit of trouble?

You can't play a really high press and get smashed in clearances like we were and expect to win. I've never seen us lose around the ground stoppages so comprehensively (we were -18 at one point in just stoppage clearances alone), and much of that was being flat around the contest, poor tackling efforts (Viney was clearly exhausted, his meekest game ever) and Max's insistence that he'd try and take the ball out of the ruck every time and kick it 10m up in the air to no advantage. This latter strategy was clearly not working from very early on and yet he persisted with it until the final quarter, where he started to tap to his feet and keep it in close, and we started to win centre clearance at least.

Tom McDonald was brilliant tonight though, May solid too, ANB tried hard as always and that's about it. Max tried to lift in the last quarter, and did, but it wasn't enough.

Put this one in the rear view mirror, have a break and plan for Richmond.

Lord Nev 🙏♥️

8 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I hope all Dee’s fans are realistic about Kolt in his first game and aren’t disappointed if he doesn’t have a great game.

On what we have seen he has the talent to make it, but may need time as most young players do.

Then again, he could turn it on.

Similar with Caleb. Demonlanders need to temper expectations rather than hyping up these boys and then ripping them down when they don't dominate or when they have normal developmental patches.

11 minutes ago, rpfc said:

This conflation of last year with this year is misguided - we may have opened up the game about late last year in an attempt to get us out of our connection rut but that was not what we are seeing this season. The Richmond game last year that some have mentioned was a contest and clearance domination in the second half - not a transition success. 76 points from clearances in that game attests to that. 

The final against Collingwood saw them get 37 I50s - so our ‘prevention’ strategy of non-exposure to our defence was in play there. 

This year it is different - we are more efficient with our fewer I50s, and there are less repeat entries.

 

@layzie Brown is able to come at the footy more and with less onerous requests to sit under ‘out kicks’ down the line which is how we have moved the ball for the last 4 years. We are moving the ball quicker and with more space to move - forwards are always going to appreciate that.

We did score 25 points from centre clearances, but we also scored 32 points from the wing. So whilst we only scored 7 points from chains starting in the D50, this could also suggest we simply turned the ball over/intercepted it earlier. Which remains an important score source from us in 2024.

I agree with the Richmond game last year doesn't fit as aptly as the Brisbane and Adelaide games the prior weeks, but there was a distinct loosening of our defensive system to score more points.

We have clearly worked on connection over the summer though and that's your point. So we now enter with much flatter kicks from slower plays inside 50 and we start more scoring chains from our D50.

2 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

I didn’t say we’ve been playing a forward half game. But that we’re trying to. 

And I'm saying we've deliberately been sitting our defence deeper, ie not trying to play a forward half territory game.

And of course there is nuance to this. Within game we may try to take territory and push home the contested advantage.

5 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I think we have tried to play a forward half game this year. We’re winning due to the backline being so strong and our efficiency but I don’t think it’s by intention. 

Fair enough. I don't think you can really play a forward half game when you're sitting your defence as deep as we have this year, so agree to disagree.