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Well at least you have seen the light, Nothing today that hasn't been seen from Cale in the past 2 & 1/2 years. Did you watch him hang 5 - 10m off his man all day. Drives me nuts. And his man continually gets the pill. Has no footy brain, doesn't go in when he has to. Sells his teamates into trouble. There is nothing about him that warrants a game at the MFC and that is saying something.

There is actually. Do your homework.

There is no way Morton is 87 kgs. I have stood next to him and I am 90kgs. I reckon he would be 82-83 kgs at best. BTW It wouldn't be the first time that a club has put misinformation on its player profiles. Big Red F Some more facts for you: Morton need another 8kgs Morton has been gifted more games than any player in memory (maybe Brad Miller qualifies too!) Hasn't helped him one bit. I am sick of hearing this pre-season interruption crud. Morton hurt his finger and missed a few weeks. That does not cause a loss of aerobic capacity, running ability or even weight building. Morton is simply a player who does not want to play AFL badly enough. Look at his brothers if you want to see how the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Morton has played many times in the backline - hanging in the fwds pocket getting cheap kicks. As for winning the Larke medal. FMD. What do you want? Valenti won two Listons. So what. Even Ezra Poyas has won one. It means nothing. Absolutely nothing about a players ability at AFL level. We have seen enough of Cale to know what his strengths and weaknesses are. My bet is he won't last 5 games under Neeld. His most infuriating habit for mine is hanging 10-15m off his player when the opp'n has the ball. WTF is that about?? Does he think he can run the player down? ALl it does is give the player an easy possession. You can mark my words and I'll be watching him closely today.

Hey, He was a good supporter of Fat Tony!

Thanks guys

Anyone go? Reports?

And if Davey fails again this weekend? Where does that leave us? We drop him to Casey to find form?? What a schemozzle that will be.

If you think in one of the best drafts of all time we will be able to trade out players we don't want you are seriously dreaming.

Yep I'd call that no experience in recruiting AFL players. What would you call it? Thanks for avoiding my point which is someone learning on the job rather than a tried and proven candidate.

Dunn will completely blanket Deledio as he did 2 yrs ago - and he kicked 5 goals as well.

I have a theory too. What year did he sign his 4 yr deal??

Underwhelmed. No experience. A good bloke who has worked with some school teams and ammos. I should have applied. Haven't we learned anything? We keep going for rookie coaches and staff like Mahoney etc who learn on the job. We are more desperate than that. We need someone who can tell us what the elite clubs are doing. At least Neeld and Craig can do that. What about Pelchen or the Geelong guy?

Great. But its totally useless if he hangs around the back of Jamar, takes a short handball and dinks it 15m to another Melb player. One of highest paid and most experienced players and he should be an elite player. But he ain't. We need a run and carry linebreaker. We all hoped Bennell would be it but he ain't . We all hoped Strauss would be it but he ain't. We all hoped Blease would be it be he ain't (yet). Bartram can't do it, neither can Grimes, Garland or Frawley. Maybe Tappy is it. Carry the press with his 70m kicks. I hope so cos we need it. As for Davey. His complete lack of interest in playing is a much bigger issue.

Give me ND's record anyday compared to what we have had to put up with since..

I wish I could do one of those face palm thingy's. ps Do you still blame your parents for everything??

We gave away 9 tackles in the match for too high. Are you saying in a half of football we should only have received 1 free kick? Dream on.

He was right about that part.

Neither is 35 where he was drafted!

We are slow to take our kick thus shutting down any quick option that might be there We do not run and spread thus giving few options for the kicker We do not kick to space we kick to the player (often next to an opposition player) We can't hit targets - so we should try more to kick to space in any case We're all doomed

Are they like baggy shorts from the 70s?? Or a distress signal when at sea?

It's not my intention to offend you so apologies for that. But, this playing group has not improved one iota in 4 years. And players within that have had many, many opportunities to show leadership and resilience and rise up against adversity. We have played a lot of 'backs to the wall' type games and been hammered in nearly every one. I personally am sick of it. I want to see players having a go. Explain to me how a player like Magner can come in and be our best player two weeks running?? It's a sad indictment on the playing group. And the rhetoric of Brad Green and Moloney is worth zilch, zippo, nothing. " The players are really hurt and we know we have to put in a better performance" Really?? Ha, I have yet to see it. They have no ticker. Geez North play like that every week - they are hardly blessed with a lot more natural talent than we are. But their culture is to be admired. If not for Jimmy and the members who contributed money this club would have been close to folding. Is that desperate enough for you? Oh no let's give em a while to settle in....

We had/have a very leaky defence. Our losing margin last year was around 60pts and our winning margin was around 48pts strangely enough. Our i50s were the third lowest in the league primarily because of the poor midfield that cannot run both ways, control the footy or deliver it cleanly to a forward. The defence were doing OK given the amount of ball going in there but they were poor on the rebound - it has been said we defended from too deep on the field, not sure about that. We had to tighten our defence first. You have to stop the goals. We need a solid system and structure that will withstand an onslaught. Its clear we don't yet have it. I believe we are two quality defenders short. A Luke Hodge type quarterback that can set up forward thrusts and a ball carrying linebreaker. We are continually let down by Bartram and Macdonald. Blease hasn't come on and Strauss is yet to impress. Frawley seems to have gone backwards this year and Rivers is terrible one on one. Bennell hasn't made it despite being given many chances and Grimes has suspect disposal. Garland should be OK. The next part is the midfield. It's diabolical. We have no-one that can dominate a game like the elite players. And we appear unable to develop a payer of that calibre. They are slow and don't run both ways. Consequently the ball pings out of our fwd line incredibly fast and straight into our defence. I am less worried about the fwd line. We have some talent and unpredictability there. The midfield is the real problem. We have a surfeit of triers but little quality. Jones is improving and I love his heart but Moloney isn't the answer. Davey can't do it. Bate and Dunn are really not up to standard and Sylvia continues to be my most disappointing player after 8 years of holding out high hopes. You can have a game plan but if the players cannot play to it then there is a problem. That was the case under Bailey. I have hopes Neeld will get it right. The final comment is on culture. Watching the Geelong game yesterday I was yet again amazed at how that club will not give in. We sadly have a team that turns its toes up at every major game we play - a Friday night game against a quality opposition, a game to honour Jim Stynes - the list is too numerous to mention. Our culture sucks and has for a long time. That is harder to fix but has to be done little by little and weeding out players like Davey and Morton will simply refuse to chase and go in hard. I would happily swap both for two James Magners. Let's hope we don't drive out his competitive spirit and let's hope we can find some more of it amongst our playing group. Barry P and Craig C had a drafting plan over the past 10 yrs but it didn't seem to include hard bodied mongrel footballers who want the ball at all cost. Give me 22 of them and at least I won't come away from a game feeling dudded yet again by a lack of spirit and fight.

Kicked 5 against us in hs first game.

My 'Clint meter' has gone from 7 (useful but with flaws) to 0 (flaws totally outweigh any positives he might have). As for leadership, I am not sure what Neeld saw but I ca't see it either.

Imagine what the trauma of the last 4 years would do..... To a footy club and its supporters. You seem to be eating a lot of the magic puddin'. I hope in your rosy world that Doves don't cry either. Get real. FFS. It's dog eat dog out there. Footy is no different.