jnrmac

There are a hundred variables. Its about what you can get. he may not like a player but cant get anything for him. If he's contracted he stays. I disagree with you! It certainly can be a mindset but Watts has never shown it. Look that can be OK with some players. Steven Stretch comes to mind. One of the first picked every week yet not physical. Interestingly i have seen plenty of times when our players won't kick it to Watts who has run 30m on a lead. Its as thought they are saying 'stuff you I'm not giving you an easy ball'. there is somethig wrong and I suspect the club knows what it is. For me I'd trade him.

There are a hundred variables. Its about what you can get. he may not like a player but cant get anything for him. If he's contracted he stays.

You are probably right with Bartel being a pass but I was thinking if you look at Garland's past 5 weeks he has been well below par.

Garland is playing poor football but I think there is no chance he will be traded/delisted. Certainly a long way off his best and its not fitness that appears to be the problem.

Really? Have you actually thought about that? Have a look at last year and get back to me.

The question you should then ask is what would you take for Watts? Would you take a pick from 10-20? Would anyone offer that? I would take it at this point.

No its not. We got rid of 9 last year (not including rookies) and 11 the year before. It can be done. Easily actually. All depends on the pain you want to create and the culture you want to change.

By my reckoning there are 15 on our list that are candidates for delisting or trading (depending on contract status). The stats for turnovers are clear. Get rid of all those that continually turn the ball over. They kill confidence. If you look at our stats for the year its turnovers where we are scored most heavily against. Fix that up and we very competitive. A lot of our backline are guilty of this but Grimes, Terlich have to be under serious pressure. Roos got rid of Terlich once. He'll do it again I suspect. Grimes is a such a hard one because he is such a trier and clearly an upstanding bloke but his flaws are very deep. I have some sympathy because our midfielders don't run and spread enough, That does make it harder for the backline. But guys like Nicho, Terlich and Grimes are consistently bad. I'd actually have McDonald in there as well but he has a lot of other strong credentials and has just been re-signed so is not going anywhere. Next we have to look at players that can't or won't run. Plenty of those. Watts lost me last year. He is soft in the xtreme. Skills are excellent but you can't have a player like that who won't run, tackle and cant win a one on one without destroying team ethics. Frawley has clearly gone. The footy world knows it. He is playing like it. He is worth more to us gone than with us. Tell us now Chip so we can plan. McKenzie is a one trick pony whose one trick is no longer good. Spencer has been re-signed and I love his attack on the footy but his lack of skills detract seriously from any benefit his mongrel provides. Evans, Tappy, Strauss, Blease, MJones, FItzy and Clisby have to be gone and along with Byrnes and Clark. We need mids with skills who can run and defenders who can kick and make decisions under pressure. This all needs fixing before we consider a fwd line. I can't believe how f&^%&^d we are.

You blokes really enjoy flogging yourselves.

Since we last beat Geelong we have had SEVEN coaches apparently

Says more about you than you think,

OK fair enough, I;ll give out some sympathy. The Bummers shaft someone again. How surprising.

Even if it does get thrown out (and that in my book is a big if) It doesn't mean they can't continue their case. At worst they will start again an re-interview everybody. Of course Ess would want this as they can turn their list over in the next two years. They truly are cheating low life maggots.

Aren't they the feeder side for Essendon? And you feel sorry for them? Love your work KC but I'll pass on that feeling. The whole club should be wiped off the face of the earth.

Mods. please chg the title of this thread to MAGGOTS.

He was working with Essendon and now he is working with the players. In my view the players are being poorly advised if they accept that. they and are risking their livelihoods (and potentially their health) by sticking to that stinking club. Its beyond me.

Its all Jack Watts' fault

I think its clear we have gone for hard bodies against a physically strong geelong side. (no mark Thompson peptide jokes...) We have been belted for years and I think Roos' words show that he is now looking at what senior bigger bodied players have got. If they can't match it then there days are numbered. Its not a day or a game for light bodied rookies....

Whaaaatttt? Surely not Why thre hasn't been more scrutinty over this mysterious letter I;ll never know.... Reid should go

Thought this line was interesting from barrett. Hadn't seen it anywhere before "There was also a period when certain substances were administered before those forms were signed. The AFL Players' Association has confirmed this, and remains doubly concerned as to what happened in this period." This is amazing - which in itself is amazing given all of the other shiite going on....

I think your definition of very little is a bit misguided. Maybe relative to NJones but he does a lot of kms out there....

Sorry if this is old ground but does that mean someone else can nab him with an earlier pick?

Suggest you review Rohan Bails early career and Daniel Bell.

Yep. Shouldda done the apendicitis test. bloody recruiters.

The tank is on.