jnrmac

It's not hindsight. Every commentator had them pencilled in for bottom 3. Here's 3 comentators in this article. They were a basket case. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-15/western-bulldogs-2015-preview-no-more-offfield-excuses-says-david-king/news-story/717840874f2ef20a30b40fb50e05d53c

Yes but the Swans have 15 mids.......

Do the Bulldogs have an opponent today? Havent read anything about one....

Grand Final sprint entrants Adelaide: Brodie Smith Brisbane Lions: Mitch Robinson Carlton: Liam Sumner Collingwood: Jordan De Goey Essendon: Anthony McDonald-Tipingwuti Fremantle: Darcy Tucker Geelong: Jed Bews Gold Coast: Brandon Matera Greater Western Sydney: Stephen Coniglio Hawthorn: Billy Hartung Melbourne: Clayton Oliver North Melbourne: Majak Daw Port Adelaide: Karl Amon Richmond: Alex Rance St Kilda: Dylan Roberton (replaced by Bailey Rice) Sydney Swans: James Rose West Coast: Lewis Jetta Western Bulldogs: Brad Lynch Club footballer: James Shirley Taxi driver: Harvinder Singh Oliver might beat the taxi driver......just Karl Amon was a team mate of Jayden Hunt's. Has has him for speed....just

This is a team that won 3 flags in a row not so long ago. It is a vastly different situation to us. They also picked up Fevola and cruelled their salary cap. We bottomed in quite possibly the worst period in history with the two expansion clubs. Yes we picked poorly but we were genuinely shiite when accused of tanking. It was as if we could have controlled whether we won games or not.

Weideman (and Trengove)

Interesting analysis. Who does these? It it Inside Football?

I think you are well off the mark here. He is up there with Neon Leon in the non-performance when it counts stakes

Michael Tuck played over 50 reserve games.....

Thanks and best wishes from me. Saddened by Grimes in particular. Terrible way for an ex-captain to go out. But at the end of the day we barrack for the team and they are but soldiers. That is the football world we live in.

I turned it on at 11pm just in time to hear the last round. Saved myself a few hours of rubbish.

And amazing to come back from that broken ankle. Not many have come back from such a horrific injury to be a star player.

You are making the assumption that the only payments the player will get are from the insurance company. It's entirely possible the insurance cpy says we are only offering you, say, $100k, and the player says well I want $300k. He goes to the club for more. Or it is possible that an insurance cpy pays overs and the club agrees to indemnify them for the extra payments by, say, paying them directly or increasing their business or by Paul Little saying 'you wil get Toll's business' etc. there are so many ways that a deal could/might happen. I don't trust these cheats at all. I have seen how they have tried to beat the system repeatedly with their lawsuits and their obfuscation and their treatment of Hal Hunter or anyone that dares question them.

This might help you. https://www.calendar-12.com/days_between_dates 1 game in 3 weeks and 6 days. You should have studied harder in school

Not sure whether you are taking the mickey or not but there are a number of media commentators who are using that analogy. If you can't see that there is almost a 4 week period where they played 1 game I can't help you

Well considered response. like a pre-schooler. And I can't remember the last job I had where I had a salary cap with my co-workers.

No its not. General workers don't operate under a salary cap. Choke on post 2135 above is right. It's an opportunity for the cheats to subvert the salary cap by offering more in "compensation" and lower in footy salary going fwd. 'Hey Jobe, we know that your Brownlow has been tainted so how about we give you $3m in comp and don't pay you for footy for the next 2 years.' It may not even be taxable FFS. It's obvious and clearly not beyond the EFC cheats to do it.

Geelong played on 27 Aug, 9 Sep and 23 Sep. That is pretty much 1 month with 1 game.

So by your definition it disadvantaged the teams playing the Dogs. Geelong and GWS had 1 game in a month. That can't be good for momentum...

Not sure if it has been raised here and I haven't realy seen it anywhere else but the two teams that had the week off in the prelims got beaten. Surely they will be squealing about the bye. The Dogs are the first team from either 7th or 8th to make a GF and while that is good for finals (ie every team has a chance) the top 4 teams have arguably earned their week off and will be disappointed they no longer have an advantage of a rest. IMO after having 3 teams winning something like 8 of the last 11 GFs it is a good thing that a team from the bottom half of the eight has a chance to win. Thoughts?

Go scorps.

I think you are off the mark here IWS. They pushed it over the line and lost. Then tried to cover up or obfuscate. You can't treat these cases with kid gloves. The stakes are too high.

Sickening

This may well have been what happened but it cannot excuse their culpability. And there can be no sympathy whne they did not fully disclose or co-operate with investigators. They were skewered by the cover up as much as anything. Fletcher, Stanton, Watson and a bunch of others aren't aren't kids. And the argument doesn't wash that 'they were the first but everything's OK now as we have all leaned what not to do.' Zaharakis and 11 other players did not sign up for the programme. Your proposition sinks when you consider the players that did not sign up. The media would go nuts over the Russian athletics team or Chinese swim team wheeling out this excuse. What is AFL different? They go through 30-40 hours of training a year on this stuff. Honestly they are idiots to fall into line with this after being preached to about the dangers.

Interesting view Stuie but completely misguided. These are professional athletes. Everything digested should be analysed for its content. Read the label before eating/drinking. Its not hard,. they are trained to do that. ASADA have a website. Look up the substance. That's what its there for. Thymosin, hmmmm, cutting edge supplements programme, hmmmmm, black ops,hmmmmmmmmm...no red flags there Stuie is there. Thousands of injections offsite hmmmmmmm...Bruce Reid supposedly sidelined hmmmmmm..... I mean really. Take a look at Dank. would you allow him to give a pill to your cat? he looks about as dodgy or unsophisticated as they come. Him running a cutting edge programme? Please. Face it. They drank the Kool-Aid and they forgot what they had been taught about substances because they were basking in the glow of the Hird/Bomba Thomson cult. The when confronted. They lied/obfuscated or simply omitted to tell investigators they had taken certain things. There can be no sympathy. It's not like they were drinking Gatorade. It's sad for them on some level but that is the regime they signed up for. I would prefer to stand up for the 724 AFL footballers that did not seek to cheat the system.