Dappa Dan

He sure as hell aint no pocket passer. Not in this league. He could learn over the space of years, and with a good coach etc... but a huge part of his gifts has to do with mobility and instinct. If you talk pure pocket though, there's a lot of second rate QBs who will NEVER play a season as good as his rookie season, that are better players than him in the pocket.

I stand corrected on Kap. I do see, though, a lot of games where guys make big old screw ups, Favre-like, and somehow still win. Still take the game on. You may be right about him being out of the top 5... That's exalted company. But Kap really does strike fear into fans' hearts, I reckon. But there again, I spose that's true of more than 50% of starting QBs, allowing for coaches, systems, OLs etc...

Lol. yup. About Kap, I can never bring myself to put him in my top 5, and sometimes top 10... But if that's a BAD game? Then you're doing ok. He makes plays... a LOT.

Didn't see? Probably. They were flagging you for pretty much everything.

Pretty impressive by Bears.... even with all the penalties helping them.

Yup. He'll earn himself a starting job somewhere by season's end. Look at RG3's ankle on replay. Ouch.

Chiefs fan eh? They were going pretty hard... But Manning looks like he's gonna Manning this game unfortunately.

What's the bigger news so far though? RG3 and DJax both hurt, and Cousins tearing Jacksonville a new one? Or is it the Jets killing Green Bay? Or maybe even bigger Rivers rolling Seattle?

So back to the NFL.... how about these top line RBs? Jamaal Charles out, AP out, Lynch quiet so far today... And the next gen guys lifting like Ingram. How good was Murray?

Yeah here we go again...

Yup. That's it in a nutshell... most of the podcasts I've been listening to deal with the fact that most can't believe that an organisation with the power the NFL has COULDN'T have seen the video. ie, they were in a Casino where there's cameras everywhere. I don't quite see that. If they were informed this is the video that contains all the details, they may not have even asked for more footage. So at the VERY least, it seems perhaps incompetent. And yeah, Rice saying he struck her... is that the same thing as this video, which is just so freaking appalling? The other thing in CFH's video that was interesting was the accusation that Rice's wife was interviewed with Rice present, which goes against all current procedures to do with counselling and spousal abuse. After being on this for a few days, I'm hoping that Goodell doesn't get the arse. He came out and admitted fault and instantly changed the NFL's procedure. So under him, change is being brought about. Then again, I'm in Australia. What do I know.

Yeah. I have a feeling double jeopardy means he won't.

Have you played Ultimate Footy JV7? It's a bit less complicated than that..... but don't worry. Your first season, against experienced opposition, you're definitely up against it. I started this thread years ago, and have been a huge NFL fan this whole time, and this is my first year in NFL fantasy, and I'm still a bit lost...

Yeah I've heard things about the police getting involved in some way since the vid was released. My FAVOURITE thing about Goodell is how he often admits fault. How likely do you think it would be that Demetriou would admit fault? I admire Goodell's stance on many cutting edge issues like depression, concussion and of course the GLBT community. They don't HAVE to show support, but they do. We all look at it almost as a "so what" thing... but in one of the most traditionalist and backward organisations in the world, I reckon it's extraordinary that they've come so far. And Goodell deserves some of the credit for that. Now that I think about it, is it possible that in the past he has been seen to be too reactionary to public sentiment? Throwing out bans of 6-8 weeks as a direct result of youtube clips etc.... maybe this one time he was trying to go slow... and managed to pick the worst possible time. Yeah good summation of the Vick thing. Rice is in a unique position here. He hasn't acted contrite, hasn't accepted any blame.... he really could pull a Vick and make a difference here. Vick's response in the media and rehab has been an enormous success. He recognises he'll never be forgiven, but works tirelessly despite that fact. Is now a family man and, from an Eagles supporter's point of view, pretty much the most professional attitude to football, especially being backup, that there is out there. I'm 99% sure that Rice shouldn't be given the opportunity to play again though. Are you?

Interesting video CFH. Personally I think that's an extreme end of the spectrum, his attack on Goodell and others. I like Goodell, and think he's done a pretty good job so far. His whole "accessory" thing, and the idea of us all being accessories after the fact is pretty normal for American TV, and I don't think is in any way the truth. Just typical overwrought pseudo-journalism. This has been a fairly big screwup/oversight, on a large scale, and I reckon maybe will cost Goodell his job, which might be a good thing in terms of statements being made by the NFL, despite the fact I reckon he's been ok for the NFL in general. As for Rice, he's gotta go, right? I have Mick the [censored] Vick in my Avatar, so I reckon he should be brought up here. The two crimes are obviously not comparable, but I have to wonder what the NFL's policy will be on the fact that Rice is unlikely to do time, and is begging for a second chance?

Does anybody here play NFL fantasy?

Went halvsies with the guy I buy coffee from every morning. He's a mad-keen Cowboys supporter. I feel a little dirty.

Pretty much. Overseas for a bit and fell off the demonland wagon.

Tough being a big NFL fan without foxtel.

Ok, getting in nice and early for this week... Cards to beat Giants. Saints over Browns. Seahawks over Chargers.

Wowee. Cards win... I thought Rivers would snaffle this up.

Yeah he's regretting it right about now... Look at the Cards go... Rivers with 2 minutes... this will be exciting.

Lol. Didn't last too long. Still... they look ok... Palmer even looks ok at times.

Wow how about the freaking NFC at the moment... Eagles (by default), literally everyone in NFC North, Falcons, Saints, Seahawks, 49ers and Cards... That's 10/16 teams that look like they should be in playoffs.

I take back everything I said about the Cards. Their D is sensational. Almost Seattle like actually. Well... So far.