Sir Why You Little

The fact that we were still at the junction oval into the 21st century tells us all so much.

Agree with all you say Akum. I just wish JW would take it on himself more as he did during school. Leadership should not be lost if it is in the DNA which i believe it is in JW's case.

Bottom line is that all these guys have worked hard, but after 7 years we are going backwards again. Yes they did some good things, but the reversal of strategy on the Tanking issue with the acceptance of a $ Half Mill not guilty verdict overshadows their entire reign. To then refuse to speak to the shareholders about it is to me simpy untrustworthy. It was their strategy to follow & they f$&@dd it up but remain in the cone of silence. Not good enough for me, but i do understand we need an alternative plan. Dr. G's above rundown is compelling reading

I would be taking notice of Whately's article rather than calling him a hack. He is no hack journalist i assure you. Stuie please refrain from calling me a Watts Hater. I find that offensive, as i have always defended him from his first game, which was disasterous as we all know. But i will not defend last sundays game. 2 kicks and no chasing....why should i? Jack said to the press "we have no leaders at the moment" That tells me he doesn't want the responsibility of leadership. Leaders like Hodge and Selwood aern't made out of magic. They are born leaders who learn their trade well. Jack is a born leader. Ask anyone wwho played sport against him or with him during school. He murdered opponents. So why does he say there are no leaders at the MFC? Has he lost the old Mojo or is he just not trying hard enough. That is hating Stuie. It is expecting a gifted sportsman to pull his finger out and help lead his team mates at a time when it is most needed.

I know EXACTLY what he said & I know EXACTLY what it meant. I don't think you do.....

What is your point Stuie? You are happy that JW just keeps the status quo? That it will all happen next week or next season? Because some of us are throwing out a challenge to a talented boy we are haters...is that it?

It's time the MFC realized and i mean really realized how much people care about this 155 year old institution every day.

"Close my eyes and drift away"

Well said Rusty on the Rollover verdict. That was the day these guys lost me. It will disgust me for many years i am sure. Their words and actions can no longer be trusted with a refusal to speak about it afterwards. Says it all really

Captain as well as coaches has got to be sure that his team is ready. Will they play for Frank?

i agree. How much does he want it or is he waiting for somebody else to do it?

But he has been a leader before at school.

Stuie i don't want to hear JW say WE. I want to hear JW say "I" I will become that leader. Don't give a vauge deflection. Do it himself.

oh my God 45 that is bad reading. These stats need to get out. Teams are just lining up to Tee off on us. We have all become numb to it...till now. Thanks

i don't care if he gets it mj, i just want people at HQ to read all the input on here. They will be watching it closely. If not they are more foolish than i thought. Why should i be made to feel impatient when we are served up the same flaky matchday performance for at least part of every decade i have supported this club. It's always "Have Patience" Hawthorn have won 10 flags since i started following Melbourne & are in the hunt for the 11th.

But you are infering that this situation has only just started. It has been in the shadows for years. Last sunday was the rising of the members finally.

i will not accept what i saw last sunday. STOP MAKING EXCUSES MAN. We have so many soft [censored] supporters now. I don't blame them...It's just sad. Still not a word from the Ivory Tower....

I am not bashing Jack at all. I know he has the talent. I want him to find it. Speaking in the 3rd person is deflecting responsibility, Cripes i want JW playing in September.

1 more loss & then just 1 more....It's only one more...Just another season... Your attitude is part of the cancer Jens. "Failure Requires no Preperation"

F Oath it is. The one positive from last sunday was the Demon faithful made it crystal clear that accepting bullshite spin is not going to work.

Something started to go seriously wrong in about August 2010 The club was beginning to stand, but something or someones went horribly wrong in that period, and whatever it is is still within the walls. The entie club is effected. It has to be. I have never seen such a half effort by an entire team as i saw last sunday bar 3-4 players. I still do not understand the psyche of it

Quit the wife beating jokes NOW.

Too early in the morning mate!!

So would i mate. And if we keep hammering we the members will find out. And no i don't blame the coaches, this is a long term wound.

Correct. Jack is speaking in the 3rd person...it is somebody elses problem that there are no leaders. JW should be speaking in first person. He can make a change if he believes.