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So his brother Ed is Aboriginal and he isn't, is that what your saying?

Charlie, All is forgiven mate...just focus on sobering up and we'll see you on the stage in Adelaide on Tues night wearing Demons colours. Mock Draft edit: 1. Carlton - Weitering 2. Brisbane - Schache 3. Sydney - Mills 4. Melbourne - Parish 5. GWS - Hopper 6. GWS - Kennedy 7. Essendon - Francis 8. Essendon - Oliver 9. Gold Coast - Milera 10. Melbourne - Curnow 11. Carlton - Weideman Drafing the two Falcons boys together would be a good outcome.

Seems that this is in fact true....It's been kept pretty quiet. For some reason knowing this makes me want the Dees to draft him now. Knowing how enigmatic and electric indigenous players can often be that excites me that he could become a Goodes like forward/mid with great endurance & goal sense. I was just thinking yesterday that this is exactly what we need - a match winner. Now I know why I was sticking up for him so much. Club Aboriginal players in 2007-2011 [1,2,3,4,5,7] Adelaide Crows (SA) Andrew McLeod, Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, Ed Curnow, Graham Johncock, Jared Petrenko, Jarrhan Jacky, Jonathon Griffin, Richard Tambling, Tim Milera, Tony Armstrong Source: http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/sport/aboriginal-players-in-australian-football-league-clubs#ixzz3s6Ll6f9U

Yep. Unless we can get Weitering out on the Turps before Tues.

OK put your mock up.

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Predicting Curnow will slide to Carlton's at pick 11 now. 1. Carlton - Weitering 2. Brisbane - Schache 3. Sydney - Mills 4. Melbourne - Parish 5. GWS - Hopper 6. GWS - Kennedy 7. Essendon - Francis 8. Essendon - Oliver 9. Gold Coast - Milera 10. Melbourne - Weideman 11. Carlton - Curnow

Yep, just a young bloke letting off a bit of steam after finishing year 12. I'm betting most of the Charlie knockers on here have selective memories of: 1) what they were like at that age finishing year 12. 2) whether they have blown over or driven whilst above the limit before. 3) Both. BTW, saying you have never driven drunk is not the same as having never driven whilst above or blown over the limit.

I'm as clean as Chris Judd no need to worry about me. BTW Did you know that EPO has a half life of 12hrs and can boost performane by up to 54 percent?

Just looking at Parish you get the feeling he might have a bit of growth left in him - ending up at 186cm ish perhaps? Surely if the club has info to back this up through scans or alike, that would have put the most common lingering doubts on Parish that he's too small to rest.

That was yesterday, no joke...you're on a role Hidden talent there I'd say - thanks for that.

Got to hand it to the club for keeping these picks a mystery. I'm going to go Francis at pick 7 with Parish at 3 given that was my first thought on 3 & 7. Probably more a case of who I would pick and also following the recruiter's wise old adage to "if in doubt" always go with your first impression. Francis hasn't had as much of a chance as others to show what he can do up forward.

How did you know that I just played water pistols outside with my 6 year old?.....I can tell you it was raining water bullets and I took it all out on him. Thanks for that Cards.....there's my proof.

So you reckon the supporters will flip & embrace him? Perhaps that is a trait of Demon supporters that flies in the face of all the the whingeing that goes on, or perhaps that just gives them something to whinge about for 8 seasons. Giving players with lots of talent 8 seasons to prove themselves - I can see that happening. I just can't see the club drafting him now and perhaps we weren't anyway.... It just doesn't look like part of our playbook.

Cheap shot hey.... You can't come up with something better than that? Easy talking smack on the keyboard isn't it?

Have you ever not stopped at a Stop Sign? Have you ever drunk and driven above the limit? I'm not condoning what he did of course. All I can say is God help us if we do draft Curnow because you guys are going to give a pasting worse than he is getting for his drink driving offense.

So he did the wrong thing and drink driving is an illegal offense and can be fatal and sympathize with you, but this kid hasn't killed anyone and he is being embarrassed and being made to pay for it in front of the entire country just because the media want a story and he is a potential AFL draftee. I don't see any reason why he couldn't have been reprimanded without it becoming so public, and that is my exact point......why did this become so public so quickly?

Come off it - have you ever drunk and driven above the limit?....be honest now! Or don't you have your license yet?

Just because someone sees something that you don't. No need to be nasty about it - just sit back, take a deep breath & open your mind and you might learn something.

Sorry mate I'll explain it a bit more. As an example lets say the Bombers were going to draft Curnow and then as a result of today's happenings decide against it, then the player Melbourne wanted might be taken by the Bombers as a replacement for Curnow forcing us to take someone else therefore completely changing the draft order from then on....given the clubs rank players differently. So there are motives for clubs to coerce or manipulate other clubs to take certain players because that can result in certain players falling to them.

No you supposedly don't, but I know that you'll be secretly reading them. I hope Charlie is taken care of in all of this because whether or not we draft him or not, the media have not done the right thing by him and that's not acceptable in my view. It's going to be hard for him to rock up and take center stage on Tuesday night with all of this surrounding him - I feel for the kid.

That makes four. There you go Wiseblood - the sound of crickets as my proof.... Look at all the people coming out and saying they don't appreciate my views. Anyone else?

OK, make sure you don't read it though....I'll be watching. Anyone else?

Well that's two that won't be reading my reports, anyone else?

Tell that to everyone else on here - I'm sure they all appreciate your sentiments.