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1 hour ago, Harrisonrules said:

JVR and Friesche should be back next week

Fritsch will be back for finals only, won't make it to anymore H&A games.

23 minutes ago, BoBo said:

If we play Carlton in finals and they have the same tactic of keeping Weitering/ spare a ruckman behind the ball (that locks it in their half) how do you guys think the Dees can overcome this? 
 

Seemed like the blues were forcing our long kicks by pressuring the ball handler and being ready to intercept handballs/immediately pressure handball recipients, so what other means do we have tactically?

They left the door open through the middle, re Salem and Bowey chances in the last quarter.

You'll have to kick back to the corridor and have the pace and dare to cut through their defence.

Just now, Go Lordie said:

I'm a big Salem fan but his ball handling seemed to be off this week. And some of his ki ks. We need him in top form for the finals.

Here's a big picture question for the panel: Has our premiership window shut already? We ripped it up in 2018, but got embarassed in the Preliminary Final. Then we wasted two years until finally snatching the prize in 2021. Should we have had three by then? I am still confident about this year - I don't think Carlton's form can last - but we are not clearly superior like we were in the first half of 2022 before the troops started reporting to the infirmary. 

No way our window is shut.

Our core still has 3 or 4 years in their prime, bar a couple of key players (May and Max).

On top.of that we have a lot of young guns coming through. JVR, Bowey,Rivers, McVee, Sparrow, Kozzy.

The club just needs to do smart trading and recruiting. We should be in contention for another 4 or 5 years.

6 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Against my better judgement, I watched the last quarter. We played out of our skins to grab this match.
To those that say that umpires don't influence results. We dominated the last quarter after our first few minutes of lapsing.

Probably seen through an MFC lense but....

18:30 - Bowey takes a clean mark centre wing coming down with one arm held by his opponent - Free kick Carlton.

17:50 - Clear push in the back by Cripps on Brayshaw - no free

13:15 - Clear Throw by Carlton player while being tackled - no free

12:40 - Carlton player jumps on Sparrows back - no free

12:21 - Rivers gets a free for obvious dangerous tackle which wasn't going to be paid by the closest ump - Ump further away pays the free- Rivers kicks to Snith who marks and goals - Fantastic

11:10 - Salem clearly held off contest.

09:40 - ANB just misses snap at goal.

09:22 - Melksham slips over in vital one on one contest in goal square. Carlton clears.

08:16 - Dow get's caught with one arm free and flops forward to pull a push in the back - Free kick Carlton (after umps miss two to us earlier in the qtr)

07:20 - The most ridiculous set of Carlton players being tackled by us eventuating in Cripps just dropping the ball - No Free! Just ridiculous.

7:00 - Brayshaw tackled around the head by Cripps - no free play on.

5:56 - Martin pulls a soft Push in the back in their forward 50 for a shot on goal as McVee bumps him in a one on one contest 50/50 decision I reckon - Free kick Carlton

4:13 - Incredible defence by the Dess for the next 2 minutes culminating in Viney being piled on in the back by 3 Carlton players - No Free

4:00 - Gawns arm held again in last 3 ruck contests.

3:00 - Great defence again from Hibbo, Lever and a long pass to a gut running Sparrow

2:43 - Sparrow get's it forward and we should have goaled from this passage as Grundy well clear forward and deep, instead it's back to JVR by the boundary and his legs are taken out 50m from goal - No Free

2:15 - McVee great kick to Salem who should have goaled.

1:43 - Deliberate OOB to us on the wing - Free kick Melbourne

1:40 - Melksham slips again - should have worn steel studs illegally like Cripps did Milkshake.

1:17 - Carlton player is caught red hot and just flops forward trying to milk a PIB - No free

1:08 - Langdon caught - lucky no to be HTB - No Free

00:48 - Petracca scores a goal and gets a point.

00:25 - Deliberate OOB - Free kick Melbourne.

00:20 - Gawn blocked from running to the marking contest and then scragged in the marking contest - play on

00:00 - Carlton steals 4 points.

It was actually good to watch again, we really dominated most of the last, just didn't finish.

But yeah, the inconsistencies and when the soft free kicks allow a shot on goal can ruin a great game of footy.

HTB and incorrect disposal no longer makes any sense.
Players are deliberately flopping forward to try and pull frees for PIB while at other times, players get sat on and get nothing.

Max and Clarry can be scragged all game yet Bowey's opponent get's the softest free for holding in a one on one.

JVR can have his legs taken out and it's called corageous by the commentators.

The review system is a joke. How does the AFL just announce it's cleared itself again and again?

Yep, those commentator calling an illegal tackle "courageous" more like dumb, Dangerous and of course ILLEGAL!!! 😡😡😡

23 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Would that $100k be needed for the MCG or all grounds?

Probably for just one ground.

3 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Thanks for all your hard work on the pod fellas 

A question on our forward line - with our tall forward options being limited, do you think that a shorter forward line of JVR, Fritta, Melksham, Trac, Kozzy and Chandler (with Nibbler and Spargo as those high half forwards Binman has discussed) would work come finals?

Or is maintaining our two tall structure more important even if it means playing a not quite right TMac or Ben Brown (no disrespect to either as they are both champions of our club whose bodies have unfortunately let them down this year)?

And where does Grundy fit into either set up - if at all? 

Thanks fellas and looking forward to tuning in!

Grundy would be out if we have one of BBB or TMac in. 

JVR would be a relief ruck for Max.

Just now, In Harmes Way said:

I haven't done any analysis on this, but I reckon the problem with cameras for goal review technology is that they have to cover the likelihood of a touched ball wherever that might be - it could theoretically be touched off the boot anywhere inside the forward 50 arc, not necessarily just on the goal line like Saturday's instance. Therefore it's probably a larger number of cameras involved, and at all grounds, and on Channel 7/Fox to cover the cost for; as the broadcaster? 

They should start at the G at the very least, that's where the most important game of the whole season is played (GF).

10 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

I was annoyed with the decision in the last against the blues but if that was a GF I would have been ropable and started to tear the MCG apart and I’m sure I wouldn’t be on my own. 

These mistakes shouldn’t happen at anytime but ESPECIALLY in a GF 

Can't believe the AFL won't pay 100 grand to have some Phantom cameras! (1,000 fps at 4K).

13 minutes ago, FearTheBeard said:

Plenty of threads on the internet to bash umpires. They are humans, there will be different interpretations, and everyone is always going to be cross with them. 

Umpires are never the reason a team loses and they certainly were not the reason we lost on Saturday. 

Just because they are humans doesn't mean that the industry as a whole shouldn't expect some degree of professionalism and performance. If they are not good enough to adjudicate the game fairly and consistently then they shouldn't be awarded games.

The AFL should develop full time umpires.

Gents

Are we back to 4 weeks ago when we first said it was best to finish 4th?

Obviously we need to beat Hawthorn to secure top 4. Then the Sydney game may be inconsequential for us.

Would you use the Sydney game to rest players and maybe experiment with some new game day strategies?

Viney, Trac, Max, May could benefit from some rest before finals.

[censored] Bulldogs getting Hawthorn confidence even higher before our match.

We should still win this rather easily with our much better list.

3 hours ago, Nascent said:

Richmond has to knock off north next week and I'm not overly confident about it. Could slide back to pick 6 in worst case scenario.

Why is Richmond tanking? Don't they know the pick doesn't belong to them?

5 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

If this isn’t definitive then nothing is. He missed the ball by a foot. Why have the ARC if it doesn’t overturn a clear mistake? 

I think the ARC made their decision based on potential contact with the right arm or the leg, not the left hand.

In any case that ball wasn't touched.

42 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Just wanna unashamedly and publicly let everyone know what an incredible cheer squad our Club has. Credit where it’s due and all.

Last night’s loss topped off a particularly brutal time for the DA. Personally, I laid my youngest sister to rest on Friday, she took her own life three weeks ago. Yesterday on their way to the ‘G, two of our members, young brothers, were involved in a horrific car accident where a motorcyclist was trapped under their car. They had to administer CPR until ambos arrived and at this point it’s not looking likely the rider will pull through. Then last night just before 3/4 time, after wondering why one of our regulars hadn’t shown up, we received the devastating news that he’d passed away, likely cause being suicide.

We were facing an uphill battle to make more noise than Carlton fans as it was, their numbers are legion. But I’m so proud of our efforts last night. It’s a huge feat to chant and cheer while your heart is breaking.

PS: Kate came and sat with us for the last quarter. We have the best president as well as the best cheer squad. ❤️💙

Sorry for your loss WCW.

I hope for the sake of the DA our boys win the flag at the G.

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Maybe it won’t change the result gone by, but it will add pressure to the AFL to make a serious investment in improving technology so outcomes like these are avoided in future games. It is simply archaic. 

You don't want a similar situation to happen in a PF or GF, if we keep quiet nothing will change.

9 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

I have major issues with Salem running into an open goal, unpressured, and not making the distance from about 42 metres. I just don't get it. Furious with that.

Great game of footy, but we were beaten at our own game and looked slow around the contest, especially at stoppages. 

Yes he was abismal tonight, same as Langdon and Melksham MIA.

Langdon may need a spell and Milkshake regresed today

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

For mine:

Hibbo on

Smith forward

JJ off

But what happens to Grundy then?

Just now, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Except the kicking at goal bit, 2 x shanks off the ankle....

He's been kicking at 70% efficiency, not a major issue for me if he misses a couple.

Very impressed with JVR, he's taking Weitering to the cleaners

5 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Too cute Bowery.

Langdon too immobile and just looking at the ball

1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

If they beat StKilda and Bulldogs i think they can still make it........

Even if they make it, it will be an away EF against Carlton most likely. They will just make the numbers.

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

We least we made finals…

10 - zip as well.

@binman what are your thoughts about the cats and pies?

Cats generation over? Hope for 5 or 6 years of mediocrity

Collingwood not good enough to win the flag?

Jeelong pampered by the AFL, State Gov and the umpires. 🤢🤢