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And those claiming that people who only take articles with actual quotes (you know, news articles) with any veracity are living in 'la la land' or 'kidding themselves' sound a little trite considering the lengths that these same posters infer into this story at the drop of a percentile (Schwarz, Barrett) or a passed-on whisper from Voldemort (someone that cannot be named).

Because the MFC gave their 'this is the best we can do' contract. That is, apparently, what kicked this off. Velocity have always maintained 'not until September' and so now they have the two contracts and Tom will decide in September. When it all comes down to it - it's a 19 year old making an important decision and he wants to make it in September.

Well, ok, does RR think Tom is suffering from the human condition of lying when it came to his press conference? When it comes to whether Tom has already signed for GWS?

Or we can put our big boy pants on and have both running around in the red and blue in a couple years time...

Without sounding arrogant - and it can be tough - I don't think recent events have done anything but vindicate what Tom has been saying all along, and by extension what I have been saying. I would think that this sorry chapter has exposed the BS that these footy journos play in. I am biased - I know some of them - and I know that, like anyone, they can be thoughtless, rushed, rash, and stupid. But if we went out on a limb like these journos do - we would be in trouble in our jobs. They don't have that problem. Example: Hutchy is consistently wrong abou things, and a sensationalist. The players hate him. How does he go? His business grows because of it and he is a veritable football-celebrity. There are no repercussions for being wrong, that is why Schartz is so willing to go 'on record' with BS.

lol No it isn't. He is a journo, and he isn't an eighth as good a journo as he was a player... 'Isn't it amazing journos go on record with BS' lol

So the recent news was a farce? We had actual quotes from Velocity. Not rumours from unnamed sources. Not the 'word,' not whispers, not 'talk around the traps'... Huh? Schwab could have spent the evening catching up on the Harry Potter movies and their would still be these articles in the paper. I don't even recall many of these articles even mentioning Schwab. What do they know? I have heard all these contradictory rumours when it comes to these so called 'football insiders' that even if you were to believe them - you would still be up against it understanding what the frack is happening. I will believe actual quotes from the actual people involved. Tom and his management, Cameron and Dean, and whatever statement gets walked back from those at GWS. You can believe nefarious and agenda-ridden rumours all you like.

Here we go again. I recognise that tree...

Wow. Brainstamp. I will write something when this post sinks in...

I'm sure that Tom hasn't given it much thought. I know that if I was playing footy and was a s dedicated as Tom - I would be pretty focused on that, whether it be training, recovery, PR engagements, or the endless meetings. Tom has some reservations about signing for the MFC without giving it proper consideration, I'm confident that when he gives all offers proper consideration he will choose to stay. The players can suck it up, if the numbers are true, he will be well paid and he will be paid that way when he is 25. So it will even out if he becomes what we all hope he becomes. And it is a contract that the club sees as one that doesn't break their wage structure. We need to keep all the talent we can at the club and having some 'clear the air' sessions with the players on the contracts is a some price to pay to keep said talent.

Why bother mentioning that article in that post? And stipulate what you think people are not saying - I'm assuming that's what you mean by the 'above board' comment. I see you have mentioned Tom 'has not seen the details of the GWS offer' as a lie from Blucher. I would say, 'so what?' He sees the contract. What is so great about that? He has to see both and make his decision at some point. Who cares if it happened three days ago or in September?

Moving past the Collingwood nonsense - HO007 has said it's not a chance so that tells you everything... Now we have the outside the club 'just let him go because you're not supposed to have nice things' brigade has started up with Martin Blake doing a great job of making The Age look like the Hun. We should take the picks and be done with this. What a pathetic defeatist attitude. We have got to the point where we have confirmed he isn't committed to GWS and immediately people are telling us to 'not bother anyway.' What do we do when the other talented youngsters get targeted? Just let it happen? We will sign him for a contract that we can afford and we will do it again for Trengove, and we will encourage our connections to get involved with 'legal' 3rd party deals, and we will put on our big boy pants - do what the big clubs do and keep our talent. Whenever someone says to you "just let him go" you say "listen you condescending [censored], big clubs fight for their talent and that's where we want to be so go write another story about someting you have on 'good authority.'"

It's tacit, RR.

So my position can be dismissed as rose coloured glasses?

It's more muscle memory than belly fire. We have been going around in circles for months.

I would be meh too. But I just cannot get past the two things I mentioned earlier. That is why I am here, and will continue to be. And you really don't have to admire it... Just don't pity it... And while we are talking about Women's tennis - who won Wimbledon? I have taken zero interest in it but usually catch wind of which woman won... Not a clue.

Fair enough. And I was agreeing with you in that last post. Well, not about the women's tennis reference...

How good is your avatar photo? Way off topic but this is a Scully thread so who cares. McKenzie... He's gonna be special. A Junior with some equivalent talent around him...

Something (or someone) has gotta give. Jamar, Martin, Gawn, and Spencer are a good group but we might have to decide who we move on because Jamar will be around for a few years yet and Martin is looking like he will too, Gawn or Spencer may see some time but not both.

And just to agree with Old - you cannot talk out of both sides of your mouth on this. If you think Tom has already signed, completely contrary to what he has said (that he won't sign anything until after Rd 24), the you think he is a liar. You can't hide behind the 'of course he would say that' defence. I'm holier-than-thou on that issue. Why? Because he's a kid. And a Demons player. And he didn't deserve the 'Traitor' headline at the Hun, and he deserves to be taken at his word.

Look who is back from Blacktown!! I thought Giantland had sewn you up? They bite more then they could digest?

I think that the 'senior' players at the club have derailed the season long before (and probably after) Tom's situation will have an effect... And I am back on that other horse that I love to ride...

Am I annoying? I always saw my role in these Tom Scully threads as a fighter of the good fight, a man of honour in a den of thieves, a hero taking a journey, confronting dragons and discovering the treasure of my true self...er. I am annoying...

We do however, have around 10k MCC members who are not MFC members. Got it to about half which is a lot better than the early naughties when it was probably around the tenth (1 in 10) or eighth (1 in 8) mark.

Sage wisdom. With one addendum - I always bring proper perspective. As an aside - did anyone really think RR and I wouldn't post in this thread on the day that article in the Hun came out?