Laughing Goat

19 hours ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

I absolutely loved big Jim, he's very close to being my favourite Demon of all but if we were picking teams today, with both players at their best, I reckon I'd pick Gawn.

His unparalleled marking ability and centre dominance make it almost impossible for any ruckman in the eras I've witnessed (since late 80s) to compete with.

I love MaX too Cheesy but Jimmy's 4 Bluey's, Brownlow, 2 x AA, Melb & AFL Hall of Fame & 244 consecutive games puts him number 1 IMO......Max is definately on his way but not there yet!

Jimmy also changed the landscape for ruckmen & apart from Koutafides, he was the first ruckman to be recognised as a ruck rover.

Great discussion :)

No....

For me when I think of all-time greatest players, I think of Stynes, Flower, Barrasi & Neitz

Stynes then daylight for me.

Mitch has been a favorite of Simon Goodwin's & always received the benefit of the doubt during his time at the Dees. Good solid aggressive player who could sometimes impact the scoreboard, however, in my opinion, never got enough of the footy.

Wish him well at the Doggies.

Wow!

This one surprises me a bit.....I am glad though & I just hope that after only 6 games this year, that Goodwin actually plays him & plays him off the HB line where he can use his talent.

Good luck Jayden

Oh dear.....

No loss to us as he's promised so much & delivered very little.....

A good VFL player but that's all.

Unfortunately this is an easy decision for Hunt.....

The coach doesn't rate him & he should look else where. I see his value being off a HB or wing where his pace can be a contributing factor......& he wont' tip out' Langdon,  Brayshaw, Tomlinson, Salem, Rivers, J Smith etc for a regular spot in the dees line-up.

If used & coached correctly, in my opinion, he could have a great impact from the HB line however time appears to have run out.

On 10/13/2020 at 11:52 AM, Ron Burgundy said:

I'm sorry - but we're not North Melbourne. Our window is actually right now.

We were in the conversation for a potential top 4 spot prior to the opening round. We've just under-performed over the last 2 years.

 

Premiership window now? 

Really.....I like to hear your rationale. Or is that it? Under-performing?

So what do we need to change to perform?

This is surely a joke right.....

A great player in his heyday, but go with a 1 year or just move on. The risk factor is high & we are no where near a premiership window.

Go with youth.

Always nice to dream I guess but maybe one day those exceptional 'free agent' players will want to come to our footy club.

2 hours ago, A F said:

This thread is laughable, @picket fence.

And @DeeSpencer, I'd take Tomlinson over Frost every day of the week. One is a headless chook, the other you don't see much of and the players around him step up. Classic role player. Frost... classic headless chook.

The 21st century has seen a rise in project players. I hope we witness a decline in these speculative athletes with little football understanding. It's not something you can suddenly teach to a 20 year old that's used to running around in circles on an Aths track. Probably explains why he runs around in circles on a football field.

Really AF......Tomlinson is the slowest bloke we have on our list! Averaging 12.5 disposals a game & on $500k or $600k per year & you would rather take him over Frosty? Pft!

We all know Frosty makes some blues, however, what he can do better than most is take the game on! The modern game is screaming out for fast elusive players that break the lines & carry the ball 100m & you would prefer to have a player that kicks the ball sideways 10m?

Give me a break!

Polak? mmmmm.....no thanks.

I'm still having nightmares about the the $800k per year for Tomlinson.

That was a good move.....not!

Well done Frosty.....like others, it highlights to obvious blunder the Dees made. In my opinion, the backline is a problem because we are all slow. The ability to break the lines & transverse the footy up the ground quickly to our forwards is critical & has impacted our year.

Having both Frosty & Hunt fit & firing in our backline would have made a huge difference to this years result.

66 games in 6 years......mmmmm

No thanks.

1 hour ago, Half forward flank said:

It is a thought. Hannan has either been pidgeon holed are a flukey/ flash in and out  sort of forward or he is unwilling to learn to play or suggest he can new positions. He is not going to make it playing the way he does. it relies too much on the ball falling his way as he flashes in and out of play.

Agree MD. Been in the choccie box for the last three years & he's probably done I reckon. Doesn't get enough of the footy for me & too inconsistent to hold a regular spot. With the big guns in Langdon & Tomlinson purposely recruited for the wing & Oscar now coming good, the door seems closed for him.

On 9/24/2020 at 1:57 PM, Rednblueriseing said:

Love to know how you head that 'around the traps' come on mate??

Ha ha

I can't expose my sources, needless to say that you don't have to be a rhode scholar to work out that the players don't react to Goodwin like other teams players to their respective coaches?

Ratten, Simpson. Hinkley, Scott, Fagan, Hardwick........There seems to be genuine respect & love for these coaches & it's clearly evident.

If you don't love the coach, I would assume that it would be extremely hard to put it all on the line for him week in week out.

On 8/1/2020 at 3:55 PM, Lord Nev said:

We've done the Goody discussion to death. Don't think there's much doubt he'll see out the year and probably more likely than not to be there next year. So thought it might be time to discuss the current assistants and potential targets for next year. A football department review will no doubt be starting soon, and the assistant coaches will be seen as the main area we can improve and afford to change.

This is just opinion.

Alan Richardson - Safe. Contract and experience will keep him there.

Troy Chaplin - Probably safe. Backline has been a strength this year despite the chaos around it. Only thing might be his relationship with Mahoney given Mahoney is a high chance to not be at the club next year.

Justin Plapp - Gone. Have always liked him, but can't defend how poor our midfield has been both in skills and connection.

Ben Mathews - Probably gone. Highly rated in AFL circles, but feel like if we don't lift in his areas then he'll be moved on or he may just feel it's time for a change.

Matthew Egan - Gone. Couple of his mates in McCartney and Jennings gone, players either not developing or going backwards.

Max Rooke - Gone. Was told he was gone last year but somehow survived. Almost identical to Egan in his KPIs surely not being met and his mates now mostly gone.

Sam Radford - No idea tbh. Probably safe purely from the Casey connection.

(Have I missed anyone?)

That would leave us with a lot of holes to fill. So who do we realistically go for?

Funny.....

I rate Egan, Rooke & Plappy way ahead of Goodwin & Richardson.....Only my opinion.

I've heard around the traps that most of the players love these guys & communicate more with the assistants than the 2 head coaches.

Maybe that's just how it is these days.

Very disappointing but good luck to the three lads & hope they get to continue there careers elsewhere.

Absolutely gobsmacked that we are even thinking about retaining Bennell & Jones. 

What's it say about out recruiting department.

FM

Great work as always Joeboy as usual, however, just a couple of changes for me:

Bennell - low light 2020

Rivers - Shining light 2020

Hannan - very little impact

Hunt - speed is important

Jetta - signed with Greensborough

Lever - still grossley overpaid

Tomlinson - fooled us all

J Smith - should play forward

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Not defending it, he's absolutely done the wrong thing and it could potentially end his career in the circumstances, but just saying the reporting of the details has been pretty overblown as far as I've heard at this stage.

 

No worries LN....agree. Could be more too it I guess!

13 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Nowhere near as bad as has been made out by a rabid and not very factually concerned media who only care about being first.

Bloke has made a mistake and owned up, story has been overblown though.

 

Good on ya for sticking up for him LN but please, it's not like he doesn't know the rules....The bloke's got history & was a bad decision to recruit him.....simple. 

oh maybe your right though & I'm sure the club would be stoked paying the $50k from next years soft cap. ?

Ha ha.....this had disaster written all over it & most of us were right.

I feel sorry for the players who were 'bumped' aside who actually love the club & had the brains & common sense to at least tow the line.

See ya HB

Only Nathan knows if he is physically capable of going on, however, I feel that if he makes our top 22 next year we are in a lot of trouble. The measurement of a players maturity & leadership is also knowing when to step aside & let the next wave of players come through. I'm sure he will do the team thing & make the right decision.

Good luck Jonesy

He needs to learn how to work hard & play team first footy......I would play him off half back & let him run & gain confidence. Needs a massive pre season to put on about  2 or 3 kg's if he wants to be a forward.

out: Jones, Smith, Viney Fritsch

in: Hibberd, Baker, Lockhart, Bedford

Thought Wagner was ok.....80% efficiency compared to Viney 50%  & 4 turnovers.