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  1. 36 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

    Surprised Gawn received votes. I thought he was quite poor with his disposal.

    He was in the best players in both the Age and HS, as well as receiving 7 on the Footy Show.  He clearly beat the Hawthorn ruck and fed the dominant midfield most of the day.  Mitchell rates him very highly - part of his game plan against us is to avoid kicking it to Gawn - and I dare say Mitchell gave him his 2 votes.

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  2. 57 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

    On viewing I thought he played like a shorter Lever, so I'm baffled by the Fyfe, Hird, Bailey and other comparisons...

    If JT thinks he can become an elite midfielder, then I'm all for it. That's what we need. Would be a huge call to take him ahead of Sanders, Watson or Curtin if available.

    I've not seen any footage of Lever playing forward or mid like Leake. Hird comparison stands up on size, versatility and skills. Seems to know how to lead, how to deliver under pressure and how to be clean in a contest.  Obviously these are highlights only and only give a glimpse, but it's a pretty impressive glimpse.

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  3. Moves a bit like James Hird.  The clean marking from some difficult spots, his clean hands around the ball, looks a decent field kick.  187 cm - interesting size. If we don't take him with our first pick he won't be there at our second.

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  4. I've been told by someone who should know that Watson is the second best natural footballer in the pool behind Reid.  He doesn't believe his height will stop him excelling and he said if he was 6 or 7 cm's taller he'd be well and truly in the conversation for pick 1.  The same person said Melbourne are keen on pick 1 but would be happy to be in a position to draft Watson. At the moment they are not in that position.  He is of the view he's a top 5 lock. Source is a player manager but not his manager.

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  5. Just now, Gawndy the Great said:

    That’s way over for Pick 1… way overs. Hold onto Petty and give WC 6,11 and F1. Norf cannot beat that unless they give up both 2 and 3.

    WC and Melbourne have been talking for a while.  They'll have told Lamb exactly what they want.  All the Petty talk is for a reason.  It's not in WC interests to work with North right now.

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  6. He has done a number of effective run with roles over his career.  My personal favourite was the 2018 final against the Cats when he played on Selwood and drove him completely insane.  Probably one of Selwood's most undisciplined games in what was a very disciplined career.  Played well on Libba in 2021.  Has done less of it more recently.  I wish him well wherever he ends up and will be eternally grateful for his important role in breaking the drought.  He got to live out a boyhood dream.  His dad was president of the junior footy club I coached at before Jimmy got drafted and the family are Demon mad.  Will be an adjustment for them when he changes clubs!

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  7. I like the way Geelong does it. They take out each players 4 lowest polling games as a way to neutralize games missed through injury.  So for instance, Gawn's 4 games that he missed through injury don't count (his vote tally wouldn't change)but the others around him would also have their 4 lowest polling games removed (Pickett his two for suspension plus next lowest polling games).  That get you closer to the actual best player and not the most durable.

    Hard to argue with the top 10 though.  Trac and Viney standouts, good to see the defence get rewarded - Lever, May, McVee and Rivers all in the top 10. Pickett and ANB the only forwards and both perhaps moreso for their defensive work.  Gawn was a top 5 lock bar his month missed. 

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  8. 1 minute ago, Fat Tony said:

    Peeved we didn’t chase Hill last year. He was the difference in two finals. 

    28% of Collingwood's goals this finals series.  In all sorts of different conditions.  He literally won them the flag.

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  9. A decent game to watch.  It was entertaining enough but I think the closeness of the scores perhaps made it seem better than it was.  I benchmark GF's against 1984, 1989, 2005, 2009, 2012 and 2018. They all had incredible moments of skill, courage, brutality(in some) and a great storyline. I thought this one was really like most of Collingwood's finals except they scored a bit more.  Kudos to them for getting it done again in a close one.  That speaks volumes for their spirit and self-belief and McRae's coaching, because nothing about them screams out outstanding premiership team which will become a dynasty.  Howe, Sidebottom and Pendlebury might have one season left.  And they'll all be less effective than this year.  Of their best side only McStay and Adams weren't available.  Adams is injury prone now, McStay's season stats are below average in most categories, the rucks are plodders, Moore was shown up again for his incapability to play man on man defence, unlike guys like Harris and May and Weitering, who can intercept and lock down; smart recruiting made their forward line functional because without Hill this finals series they were in huge trouble - Collingwood kicked 29 goals in 3 finals and Hill got 8 of them.  That's 28% of their total goals.  It's unlikely he'll get that sort of freedom again.  And then you have the other over 30's like Hoskin -Elliott, Jamie Elliott, Mitchell, Crisp, Mihocek, Cox.  Nearly half their best side is the wrong side of 30 at the start of next season.  They might do a Geelong but they play a taxing style that won't lend itself to blowing sides away too often.  

    Congratulations to them.  They had a clear strategy to invest in the now and trading Grundy out was a masterstroke.  

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  10. 11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Was getting shouted down mid year for talking up how good Mihocek is for Collingwood from a structure point of view.

    Very underrated forward of the competition. 

    Their recruitment has been absolutely spot on. They recruited for speed and when and got Bobby Hill who just fits perfectly into their game plan alongside Tom Mitchell who gave them inside hardness that they lacked last year.

    They'll only get better.

    Agree with everything but the last bit.  I don't think they do.  They are a very experienced list.  Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Howe are all at the end.  One year tops and probably a declining year.  DeGoey is always  one big night away from being finished.  Cox and Cameron are unreliable.  Adams injury prone.  They have a lot of grit, are well coached and have a couple of superstar father sons but they won three finals by 12 points in total.  I think others might get better quicker.

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  11. 7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    I know I could easily google this, but anyone know how many B&F's Viney has won?

    Reckon he's going to add to that list this year.

    Just the one - and it was a huge surprise.  2016 when Gawn had his maiden AA and was the dominant ruck in the game.  Another one of those bizarre MFC Bluey results.  I think Max even said in his speech that he was expecting to get up a little later!

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  12. 20 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

    Who was head of our recruitment back then? I have repressed a lot of my memories from back then.

    Barry Prendergast.  He drafted guys who were rated at the time.  The development was horrendous. And a few had injuries like Blease who badly broke his leg before he started and Strauss who took a little while and just as he was beginning to look like the standard he busted his leg too. And then there were a few big misses.  A very forgettable time.

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  13. Go Royboys!  I attended Fitzroy's last finals series as a 16 year old back in 1986.  Fond memories of that finals run and Gary Pert was an excellent player for the "real" Lions (and a pretty average one for Collingwood). I always had a soft spot for the Fitzroy Lions.  Whilst they are a completely different organisation now, they are playing Collingwood - a club which masquerades as representing the underdog with it's now long passed working class roots.  Just another corporate entity which actually tried to cannibalise the Lions by offering to merge with them by putting a Lion on their shorts. A disgraceful organisation who have been involved in some way in nearly every race related controversy since the 1980's in the VFL and now AFL.  The highlight of my season would be to see them record their 29th runners up placing.

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  14. Our list profile is strong.  We have good young key position players - Petty will be 24 at the start of next season, JVR doesn't turn 21 until mid April, Jefferson will turn 20 in March.  Other than Viney, all of our top midfielders will be 28 or younger at the start of next season and still in the absolute sweet spot. May played out the season well and I remember Brian Lake moved to Hawthorn at the age that May is now and was a key player in three flags! Gawn will continue as the dominant ruck for at least a couple more years.  He doesn't turn 32 until the very end of this year and will be our oldest player (assuming Melksham doesn't come back).  Young players who should continue to improve include McVee, JVR, Sparrow, Bowey, Rivers, Pickett.  If the players are hungry enough, there is more than enough talent to have us competing again next year and the years beyond.

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  15. I notice Williamson (number 22) was dropped to emergency after his efforts last week.  That will be helpful for Brisbane because he only seems to see it Carlton's way.  On last night, massive kudos to the Giants.  They are a hell of a team.  An unrivalled travel schedule in a competition so tight.  6 day break leading into a prelim and coming from 3 wins and 7 losses says a lot about their talent and their character.  Collingwood - well they are most definitely beatable.  They won't have the advantage of the 19th man with the ridiculously lopsided crowd in the GF.  Go the Lions.  Fagan is an ex Demon who helped get us into the 2000 GF.  Hopefully it's his time.

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