Dr.D

Oliver could still possibly get the 3 votes for this game.

But we need mids that are good kicks for goal. We don't have a luke shuey on our playing list. or anyone that comes close to his foot skills including in front of goal.

51 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Not an ideal result, but here's some perspective for the doomsayers: 

• We are not in our prime now, we are coming into it. We are not going to be at our best every week. Our forward structure is still gelling
• 2 points is as good as 4 in the context of the season at this stage
• The only stat we lost was tackles
• We are on top of the ladder 
• We have beaten 7 out of 8 teams in the 8 right now. Anyone who says we are pretenders has a very low football IQ
• Bottom dwelling teams that have proven to bring us down to their level do not feature in September 
• Just because we are on top of the ladder doesn't mean supporters are entitled to a season where nothing goes wrong. You'd think after the years of mediocrity that people around here would be more mentally resilient, watching some of you throw your toys out of the cot after a loss is embarrassing. 

i'm sorry but you say 'still gelling' as if its improving? i haven't seen any improvement. Only consistent bad goal kicking.

Secondly, 2 points instead of 4 is the reason we could/most likely finish behind Brisbane, Port and Sydney on points. So it's extremely costly.

The same supporters that are positive now are the same supporters that would say 'overall the season was a big success' if we come 5th and lose the elimination final. 

Viney is a finals player but he is also reckless. He gives a lot of frees away too. His turnovers have been touched on but i'd prefer 15 touches and 0 turnovers than 30 touches but 8 or 9 score involvements for the other team. 

18 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

Very selfish game by Viney... 11 tackles! He obviously is trying too hard! 32 Disposals... He should stick with 6 or 7 to warrant the criticism that the astute arm-chair critics of Demonland spit out! Only third for the team on metres gained... well that caps it off!

You're too caught up in the stats movement. The turnovers killed us. Time and time again. 

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Before we trade him can we just try him as a defensive forward for a bit?

I personally think he is too slow to be a defensive forward. He also has a bad turning circle so I think he would get caught a lot himself. I actually think he is carrying too much weight. I'd like to see him 5kg less which is noticeable for someone his size but he needs to cover the field better. 

And I agree with previous posters, he is killing us with turnovers at the moment. And has for some time and I have 0 faith in match committee that they will ever drop him. 
 

3 hours ago, 1964_2 said:

Very damaging game. 

Jordon or Brayshaw replaces him in the middle, with one-third of the possessions, but playing their role and we win easy.

Jack needs to be investigated for match-fixing due to consistently passing to Hawks players

lol. I said this during the game too. When he has the ball, at best you're hoping for a 50/50 because sure as hell it isn't going to a dees player. 

I'm a better set shot than Pickett and weideman from 30m out. I'd happily challenge them.

I'm still waiting for Luke Jacksons 'bag' that was just around the corner. Someone even posted comparisons between him and Josh Kennedy. Good Lord. Here I am, pre-season stating that Jackson isn't a forward and I get shot down for it. 

The proof is now in the pudding. Yes, he's going to be a gun in the ruck. But he isn't a forward and never will be.  Hey isn't a good kick for goal or a good mark of the ball (he runs under it too much). Time for a rest.

6. Oliver
5. Fritsch
4. Salem
3. Hunt
2.Petracca
1.Spargo

4 minutes ago, hardtack said:

When your team has gone 9-0, those kinds of predictions were just as, if not more, warranted as yours, particularly as we had beaten a number of teams expected to finish well above us. Also, after each loss to a lowly team, we have come back to defeat a top 8 team, so why wouldn’t people believe we can finish top 4.

I'm not saying we can't. It's just a prediction. We're coming off seasons finishing 17th and 9th. We had everything to play for last year and screwed up our season by not showing up in games later in the season against bad teams. I suppose that is still fresh in my memory and I think we're seeing signs of that team coming out. 

40 minutes ago, layzie said:

Let’s be honest. How many players in our team could regularly kick set shots from 50 out? Actually forget that how about 40 out? Some of the ways these balls were missing was embarrassing either not making the distance or being way off. Fix it now, win finals, deliver us the flag. 

Salem is the only one that I think I trust kicking for goal. That's how [censored] our forwards are. And our mids are really inaccurate too. 

2 minutes ago, Stein9193 said:

We were crap tonight and there's no use saying otherwise. Anyone wanting to float the idea that this was a positive result is either completely deluded or has no idea how football works. What we saw was pathetic, it is Rd 18, it is not time to let them off and chalk it up as a bad experience. If we bring that to the big games, we are out. It is simply as simple as that.

Goodwin still talking about lessons in round 18. 
It's not lessons Simon, its execution. 

5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

We've already beaten the Dogs and Cats this year, Optus is hardly a fortress in 2021.

I mean really, more chance we lose to Suns and Crows and win the other 3 if you're actually going by our season so far.

Also, there's probably a lot of things you don't see happening...

Yeah, but we beat Geelong at the mcg. without Rohan and Cameron. Cameron may or may not be back for the round 23 clash.

4 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Who did you predict to win last week against Port?

Who did you predict to win against the Dogs and the Lions?

I may be wrong, but as I recall, it wasn’t us.

Yep, you’re a genius.

I wasn't surprised that we beat Brisbane or dogs. Nor was I surprised that we lost to Collingwood or didn't beat hawks. Ultimately, I said 5th. And if I'm wrong, I'd be surprised. 5th I said. It's been there for the whole forum to keep me accountable. I have no problems with that. I'm just keeping all the fans accountable for saying top 2 and top 4 when it was far from warranted.

2 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

Hahaha. I think you'll find your self-adulatory posting had its genesis long before the Collingwood game. I've no problem with your opinion nor your analysis. It carries no more or less weight than anyone else's on an anonymous fan forum. But your neediness is concerning. Help is out there. Seek it.

Or, full length mirror

I think my neediness is as much as a concern as everyone's bias towards this club. They are so blinded by their loyalty that they can't see the forest for the trees. and that annoys me. It's like a kid making the same mistake time and time again. 

But don't worry, Gold Coast is in the bag and we'll lock in a top 2 spot!  :S

12 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Have a farkin sook. Get over it. If we finish 5th it looks like the only person that will be happy is you and that is disgraceful. It was a kick in the guts tonight but the beauty of football is we can make amends the next week. This was directed at you Dr.d

We don't make amends next week. that's the whole point. The only thing that makes amends is a win against the dogs, Geelong or wce in Perth. 

 

58 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

It was a pathetic draw tonight.

However, before tonight we needed to either go 4-2 or 3-2-1 to make top 4, so technically we’re still on track to make that achievable target of 16-5-1.

I’ve got Port and Brisbane both going 16-6.

A draw helps us make top 4 tonight. A clean centre clearance  by hawthorn in the last minute would’ve been an epic disaster for us.

How does that even work?
 1. Dogs - 18-4
2. Cats 18-4
3. Brisbane 16-6
4. Port 16-6
5. Syd 16-6
6 Melbourne 15-6-1 

???

So you have us beating WCE in Perth, dogs or Geelong in Geelong? I hope you're right. I just don't see it happening. 

out of interest how many times do the players dump the footy's in water and do goal kicking practice like that? The footy is a wet football most weeks in melbourne.. 

2 minutes ago, SPC said:

Never seen our back 6 so shaky.. every time it went in, I was sure they would score.. May looked like a debutant 

Was it may that was on Lewis at the start of the 4th? yes, he got easy supply but why was he 5m behind him on the lead. Frustrating.

13 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

I'm not one of the happy clappers. I've enjoyed our successes but have been fully aware of our shortcomings. Chiefly our deplorable structure & system inside 50 and our new-found weakness at stoppages.

However it concerns me greatly that someone's insecurity has them constantly posting on an anonymous fan forum to give themselves pats on the back. And to admonish those who don't enthusiastically join in with the Dr. D back patting.
I hope UROK.
If on the other hand you are just a narcissist and an harsehole (silent first h), I'm still prepared to help you out.
For Dr. D

A range of options but the Blonde Block Full Length Mirror is 30% off. I believe they'll deliver in lockdown.

There you go son, either use it to aid your narcissistic tendencies or to, in the words of the Couldabeens "have a good hard look at yourself"

You know this all started because I said I thought we would come 5th since we lost to Collingwood and it was you guys that were admonishing me. Just for own opinion. So that is the only reason that I'm not letting it go. Because you incorrectly interpreted my opinion for trolling when in fact it was a calculated opinion which is becoming more accurate by the week.

11 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Your forgetting one thing...we didnt actually lose.

We will finish in the top 4 most likely top 2 and im sorry that you will be so disappointed by that result.

Can I quote you when that doesn't happen or will I be called negative? it's a lose lose.  I'm stubborn yes but I barrack louder than anyone during the games.

is mitch brown injured? I think he is right. Because if not, he is probably the straightest kick we have. 

I knew when we started 0.3 it was going to a be a loooooooooooooooong night.

In: Bowey

Out: Viney

Petracca to the backline for some spells to teach him that sometimes he needs to play on the defensive side of a stoppage. Frustrating as f$%k. 

Viney self explanatory. just GTFO. 

why start this thread now. Our kicking has been [censored] all year. but it's been a dealt the last 6 weeks. 

34 minutes ago, Dee man said:

Obviously a disappointing game today, but the 2 points was enough for us to lock in a finals spot.

Given our percentage is similar to Brisbane and Port, today's result could be the difference between us finishing 4th and 5th if we drop 3 more games. If we drop 2 games, we should still finish top 4. If we only drop one game, we're likely to finish top 2. And obviously we stay where we are if we don't lose from here on in.

Wiser words have never been spoken. I bet when we play Geelong in round 23 and need the win to make top 4 that we regret playing like a bunch of spuds tonight.