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    Just now, Earl Hood said:

    What were Diesel Williams' stats for meters gained in his Brownlow years? I know they didn't do those stats then.  My memory was when he was in the middle he was a master of the quick, short handball to someone in a better position, more than kicking the ball to a position because he was so often in the centre of a dense maul of players. Clarrie seems to have potentially, a similar set of skills. 

    Clarry actually handballs more often at this piont than Deisel did.  Based on that, I'd say his meters gained would be less than Deisels.  Average total disposals per game stats are similar.

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    Almost paniced that Oliver was a late withdrawal when I saw the headline pop up.  Great article.  Based on Oliver's and Pedo's performance this season, I think the standard recommendation over the off season should be for all our players to eat well, get on the Pi [censored] (act of drinking beer) and stack on the kgs.

    http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-20/dee-hits-delete-oliver-moves-on-from-social-media

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    7 hours ago, DemonAndrew said:

    well, it's 30 years since 87, i'd say since then our best mids have been, in order of what i think of as 'eras' of football before our current captain became our best mid:

    - robbie
    - brian wilson
    - todd viney
    - stephen stretch
    - sugar healy
    - glenn lovett
    - stephen tingay
    - andrew obst
    - kevin dyson
    - andrew leoncelli
    - shane woewodin
    - cam bruce
    - stephen powell
    - travis johnstone
    - james mcdonald
    - brent moloney
    - brock mclean

    i think that oliver can be significantly better than all of them

    If Brock McLean makes the list above, then surely players like Guy Rigoni and Paul Hopgood do as well. Did Flash play enough midfield to consider him as one?   Mentioning McLean in the same list as Jnr Mac, Stinger, Viney & Co is a huge insult to those genuine Melbourne mids.

    Seriously McLean, you might as well throw in his mate Col Silvia as well.

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    On Tuesday, August 01, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Biffen said:

    No we won't get him.

    Just a trifling issue but why does that ugly big [censored] get to wear a black headband and Hunt gets forced to wear the AFL lisenced product.

    If they are going to be pathetic and petulant they should do so uniformly or not at alll.

    This is the AFL you are talking abut Biff.  Do you really expect consistency and reason?  (Just look at the 'clash' jumper debacle).

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    Sorry to be a party pooper, but my hope is that we don't have one in the next 10 years, because our top group of players are all so good they pepetually taking and sharing votes between them, that we tally well Brownlow wise as a team, but not well enough individually to have a winner.

    More interested in having a Norm Smith medalist, along with breaking his curse.

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    4 hours ago, Skuit said:

    There are of course fluctuations in games, and ‘putting the cue in the rack’ to conserve energy or guard against injuries, but we just can’t seem to put our foot on the throat of the opposition when they’re down – a mark of a ruthless, champion team, and so important as to % with the competition evening out. And junk-time goals against are a serious %-killer.

     

    We also seem to have some strange 40-point barrier, and I know this well, as the only time I ever really have a flutter is when I have a sense we might unexpectedly dominate and take the big-odds 39+ option (it’s been killing me, although we got across the magical line against Adelaide with a last-minute goal to Kent).

     

    The past two seasons; lead progression points and final margins (I’ve left out 2015 but it’s a similar pattern in our wins). Outside of these matches, we only capitalised against GC and Brisbane to record larger winning margins, while the Bulldogs this season was a reasonable example of cue in the rack.

     

    2017

     

    Port

     

    20.46 2nd – 43  /  Final – 23

     

    Western

     

    25.24 2nd – 40  /  32.29 3rd – 50  /  Final – 57

     

    Gold Coast

     

    18.37 4th – 34  /  25.22 4th – 41  /  Final – 35

     

    Adelaide

     

    6.56 4th – 39  /  Final – 41

     

    Essendon

     

    3.59 4th – 45  /  Final – 38

     

    Saints

     

    8.33 3rd – 34  /  8.08 4th – 42  /  Final – 30

     

    2016

     

    Port

     

    17.53 2nd – 43  /  Final – 40

     

    Freo

     

    16.20 2nd – 43  /  12.47 3rd – 50  /  Final – 32

     

    Collingwood

     

    20.55 4th – 55  /  Final – 46

     

    Richmond

     

    30.34 4th – 39

     

      /  Final – 33

     

    Collingwood

     

    10.26 2nd – 42  /  18.22 3rd – 39  /  Final – 35

     

     

     

     

    Are you forgetting Rd 7, 2016?

    We were up by 5 points at half time and ended up smashing them by 73 points.  Jack Viney started the ball rolling, by kicking two goals in quick succession just after half time.

    I went to the game at Metricon with my old man.  It was a most enjoyable evening.  As I recall, it was a bit of a break out game for Harmes and Gawn got right amongst it as well (before all the media were worshiping Gawn Dawg as the super start MFC supporters knew he was).

     

    Also, whist the Hawks game last year was only in the order of 30 or so points, it really did feel that we put them to the sword and never took the foot off in that last quarter.

    7 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    I'm hoping the next version of the Demonland software will have artificial intelligence so if we preface a curse word with "excuse my language", the auto-censor doesn't kick into play.

    Well, if it's good for Max.

    But seriously, the Demonland auto-censor is seriously lacking in intelegence on occasions.  Admittedly, there are times when my intended curse words have been picked up as such, but there are also some pretty benign ones that seemed to get picked up, even in completely benign context.  Eg:

    Was a good coin toss for Josey to win today;

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    We gave Gold Coast an absolute flogging last year.

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    At 3:55 on Tommy Mac Donald

    "Yeah, he got drafted as a forward - I didn't see the potential myself...if he does it two weeks in a row I'll give him credit.  Yeah if he kicks five again, I'll be the first to shake his hand"

    Lol cracks me up does big Maxy.

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    On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Bobby Clark said:

    Indeed we do. Mitch Hannan you little beauty

    Have been super impressed with Hannan's continued improvement.  He has some good tricks inside foward 50 and pleanty to offer around the ground as well.  Thinking about some of the goals he kicks a fair few of them could be described as cheeky little cheap goals, but they all count for 6 points and previously we almost lacked for a player to kick those sort of goals and could dominate the inside 50s for little reward.

    On Sunday, April 02, 2017 at 10:00 AM, hells bells said:

    I seem to recall that the pick we were hoping to get for the Trengove deal to the Tigers was earmarked for Jake Lever, who looks a very solid defensive player for Adelaide.

    And the we ended up with Hibbard who has been huge for us, so I'm not that disappointed the Lever thung didn't work, you can't get them all.

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    I've never been an Oscar hater like some here, but in fairness, I haven't repeditively jumped to his defense either (pardon the pun).  When you look at it though I think he has done a pretty reasonable job for someone of his experience all year and the claims he won't make it are hugely over the top.  One thing which I think goes against defenders is that any error has potential to quickly end up as an opposition goal.  When the side plays poorly and it's the backmans job which becomes so much harder.   Nor does Oscar have the reputation to gloss over mistakes.  Lewis kicked clanger of the year a few weeks back straight down the throat of Tom Lynch which resulted in a goal and at times Lewis can be a bit of a clanger king, but it doesn't get bleated about like Oscar.

    One thing which must also be helping Oscar at the moment is the presence of Hibbard and Frost (whom is becoming a great defender in his own right - did a great job on Tom Lynch a few weeks back, who is one of the best power forwards in the game).  In fact our whole back six/eight is looking pretty tight at the moment and the continuity of personal must be doing wonders.  But look back to the start oF the season and it's pretty much just T Mac and an O Mac with 14 or so games under his belt - I recon he actually did ok back then in the circumstances and the other question that begs is "What would we have done without him back then?"

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    1 hour ago, Nasher said:

    I think so long as he finds himself on the inside, he's always going to default to handballing. It's how the game is played - you don't kick from congestion because it's too risky - and it's his strength.

    If we want to see him getting more kicks, he needs to get the ball in space more. This really is splitting hairs, though, when talking about a 19 year old midfielder. He'll find the balance soon enough - it's not like the team is suffering until he finds it.

    Not saying it's right or wrong and obviously game style has changed a fair bit over the last 20 odd years, but Greg Williams, known as both a prolific handballer disposal getter lead the league for both these categories for most of the period between 1984 - 1994, with an average hanballs per game of around 16 and average disposals of 30 - so far this year Clary is going at 23 and 31 respectively.

    Somewhat contradicting my previous statement, whilst I don't want to feel sympathetic to the EFC, my feeling is that the whole process was botched and mishandled by all parties including the AFP, the AFL, ASADA and WADA.

    I can't see any club ever self reporting and cooperating in the same wat the Bombers players did again.  And where are the charges against Steven Dank ...or are those yet to come?  I do wonder if there has been civil or criminal charges considered against him.

    That all said, I did watch a fairly convincing story from one of the investigative journalism programs (I think it was 4 corners) that layed out a pretty compelling case that many of the big players in the elite sports and athletics world are gaming the system with performance enhancing drugs by staying half a step ahead of the list of banned and detectable drugs, which did smell exactly like what Essendon were doing.

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    One about Max, not by him:

    "He's all of seven foot tall and about ten kilos of beard"

    Some special comments from Alastair Lynch during game comentary.

     

    Long live the beard.  Perhaps a few more of our players should do some beard work in the gym and put some weight on there like Maxy.

    51 minutes ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

     I was very impressed with"SOS"s form yesterday.

    I'd be very surprised if he's not upgraded next year.

    He looks to me as if he could be a very useful contributor to our backline next season.

    Could he play midfield?

    His attack on the ball, his decision making, and his disposal  all impressed me.

    I was a great admirer of his dad Shaun's guts, standing his ground in "the hole" to be crashed by the likes of Lockett.

    Shaun Smith, like another brave Demon hero of mine, Steven Icke, was a fantastic transfer from North.

    I'm so glad we have Joel as a Demon.

     

    As an aside, the current Hawthorn coach is another that could be added to that list.  Was not an out and out superstar, but a very serviceable player for us none the less.

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    38 minutes ago, ickey_11 said:

    Actually the commentator said that he should have said that, Max actually said "I was hitting it back to you".

    Regardless of what he said verbally, his awesome fist away and body language certainly said " bounce it properly then ".  

    Was a great bit of theatre in the midst of an enjoyable win against the filth.  Added some nice icing to the cake along with Max's other non verbal statements that day.

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    Just love Big Maxy's persona and thought that he needs his own topic to make sure we never miss a giggle from the gems of humor that seen to pop out every second sentence.  

    So here is one to start things off, as reported on the Fox Footy web news page:

    Via Hawks duo Isaac Smith and Josh Gibson during the night, Frawley apparently said Gawn’s head would’ve “gotten quite big quickly” if he had taken out the Leigh Matthews Trophy.

    Big Max’s rebuttal, however, had Frawley covered.

    “Old Chip Frawley, hey? Well Hawthorn has to play a 17-man defence because Chip doesn’t defend too much anymore,” Gawn said.

    I'm not sure it's right up there with his absolute best work, bid did like that it gave Frawley a well earnt sledging.  

    So what else has the new mouth from Melbourne put out there?

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