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Rodney (Balls) Grinter

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  1. 3 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

    The MRO needs to be a panel of people, not one bloke who has shown himself to be inept. I would also be comfortable if the AFL said, he will have a 3 man panel deciding each incident and there's no tribunal option, their decision is final. It's the AFL's competition they can suspend anyone they want, why does there have to be tribunal involved if they have a panel who can discuss and make decisions.

    Yep and keep those mongrel lawyers out of it all together.

  2. 3 hours ago, binman said:

    see the low impact argument, but I'm OK with koz getting a week, not for the bump, but for raising his elbow.

    Yes he only glanced his head, but I'm in the factor in the risk of injury camp. If his elbow had, say flushed his temple then some real damage could have been done.

    That's not how the tribunal saw it though, they said he elected to bump didn't they?

    And sorry, but I see an elbo raise, a conscious effort to bump or anything.  It happens in a split second.  He didn't line him up and follow through like Plugger.

    In reality, I don't really think he did either.  He was contesting the ball, was a split second late ...and he jumped.

    The AFL needs a new rule - no jumping.

    Like others I'm so frustrated at the lack of consistency from with the AFL.  They seem to grade impact level on consequence (i.e. is the player concussed or not) for everyone else but us.  The guy got straig back up imeediatley and wasn't anywhere near needing a concussion test, let alone being subbed out (or knocked out cold for 5mins per Gus).

    Kossie is a huge loss to our side.  We have him Rd 0 in the tropics and we might have even won that game.

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  3. 39 minutes ago, Brownie said:

    It's only leaving the ground to smother that appears that somehow now appears to be dangerous?

    And.... Then Kozzies submission was that he leapt to catch the ball in the air, not smother or spoil.

    Which he is entirely capable of doing.

    They wouldn't even let our expert testify!

    And argued for 90 mins about this instead of just letting him speak.

    Don't tell me they don't play favourites.

    Yep and if Kossie had taken the ball, kicked it up feild and we goal, it's probably play on and considered a football act.

  4. ...I'll add that Fox Footy's reporting on this incident has been as disgraceful as the tribunal's handling of it.  They have been gunning for Kossie to be suspended from the start and the suckers at the AFL have been more than happy to play along.

    Just look at the below sensationalist headline for a recent example:

    ‘I’m scared of training with him’; Demons superstar defends Pickett after another ban

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/melbourne-demons/im-scared-of-training-with-him-demons-superstar-defends-pickett-after-another-ban/news-story/b26f75a9c6d0204e9117ce44627119f9

     

    Pretty clear from reading that Trac is scared of getting caught from the awsome chasing and tackling defensive pressure that Kossie applies rather than being physically scared for his wellbeing.

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  5. So f###ing angry at this suspension.

    Look at it in real time and it's nothing like the Maynard thug thing.  He converges from the side and glances him. The action never had the same potential to do injury as Maynard did, because he wasn't charging straight at him from the polar opposite direction.  Our defence was totally valid, he never lined him up, didnt elect to bump the player, the time he has his arm tucked in for a split second and flys across the front of him, barely brushing him.

    It was low impact and wasn't a bump - please change the thread title accordingly to "Kossy glance on Soligo". 

    From the reporting I've heard of it, the contemptuous way the AFL tribunal dismissed our case against is a disgrace.  I bring back the example of Chol from a few weeks back where a 6'10" 95kg giant planted his knee with the monentuum and full weight of his body, right into the back of his opponents head at the point where the spine meets the scull, which is apparently ok, because it wasn't a 'bump'.  These people are a joke and I'm sick of our team and our players being their play things and scape goats.

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  6. Lol.  Love your work Andy.

    Part of me just wants to jump in that DeLorean and dial up till the part on GF day at The MCG, where we are 40 points up and pulling away from our opponent - but then it's all about 'The Journey' 

    Do expect Brisbane will be hard to beat as they are essentially playing for their season at this point, but I'm encourged by what I've seen from us so far this season and think some of our players have got more gears to change up too.

    Looking for us to keep winning and building in the first half of the season, keeping a fit list well managed and then perfect our game and make our run in earnest in the run home.

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  7. On 06/04/2024 at 10:13, Demonstone said:

    This poster from Bomberblitz at least has a sense of humour:

    Just after half time I was having a conversation with Mrs hambo about a house we had recently bid on and missed. Turns out the top bidders have dubious finance and may not come through with the money meaning that it may fall to us. This distracted me from the footy but also from my glass of red wine which I knocked making it rock side to side and spill wine on the table and rug. I then rectified the situation by grabbing from another direction with the other hand. Unfortunately this exaggerated the rocking effect and more wine fell on the floor, my shirt and the couch. I countered with a big catch which didn’t go so well and I smacked the glass into the wall and now have red wine and broken glass absolutely everywhere.
    who played it better?
    hambo?
    Essendon?

    Had a similar red wine spill the other night at my hotel trying to set myself up at a motel I was staying.  Was trying to plug a phone charger in besides the bedside table, forgetting that I'd just put a glass of red on same bedside table - oops.  Ended up all over the white bedsheets.

    After vain attempts to rinse from the sheet, I gave up and just watched the replay of our Adelaide win on my phone's Kayo app.

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  8. On 05/04/2024 at 17:24, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

    So, a wine-win situation.

    This Barrosa game has to be a MFC game.

    Package deals will include a picnic blanket and  Charcuterie board, as well as a shuttle from your hotel in a Range Rover.

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  9. 3 hours ago, Deefiant said:

    In terms of the unfairness of the competition I feel like this is one of the lessor things we should care about considering the vicbias benefits we enjoy. 

    So asides from the GF being always at the MCG, I feel this is such a faux argument.  Yes the Vic teams travel less, but they don't have anything like the home ground advantage of the interstate teams for the most part, because so many games against the other Vic teams just end up being neutral, without a real home ground advantage.

    Leigh Mathew's is close spot on.  Our draw this year got somewhat harder by having to play another away game (and playing it off a 5 day break at that).  The only saving grace was that being consecutive, we could do the mini-hub thing and that Adelaide aren't in good form.

    The only thing I'd change from what Leigh is saying, is that it doesn't make so much sense to have both Adelaide teams play each other as that would likely reduce overall match attendance, by likely having just the one sell out at Adelaide oval between the home state sides rather thàn two.  Solution ìn my mind is just to drop the number of actual playing Rds in the season back to what is was before, so there are equal home and away for all teams, so the Adelaide one's still end up with as many as anyone else by seasons end.

  10. 38 minutes ago, dpositive said:

    An appeal would be an opportunity to remind the tribunal of our club awareness of the severity of a head high hit. As we see the head as sacred we accept a fine for this low potential and impact as Kossie obviously pulled back . Show the incident in real time and note the glancing effect as Kossie was able to alter his shape and direction but could not avoid the glancing contact. Again refresh the Maynard example  and why the club has welcomed the changed rules and therefore understands why Kossies action must be penalised, however this act was low impact similar to Pendleburys but unlike Pendles was in the flow of the game and a football act.

    We could also show the low impact that Kossie received when he had his head nearly pulled off with no free kick even given. Put that video on slow motion, select the point of impact and it looks worse than the contact that occurs as a football act. 

    I am sure we could put together a compilation of contacts that were far more severe than Kossies.

    Welcome the leagues recognition of head high contact and hope that there is increased on field scrutiny and immediate action tken to such incidents.

     

     

    4 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

    Should appeal but probably won’t. It’s low impact by any measure, if they want to put in writing that there’s no such thing as low impact high contact then do so rather than put in unwritten loadings when they feel like it.

    The incident itself was accidental, he jumped to try and stop the handball going over the top, anyone wetting the bed about “he needs to get this out of his game” needs a lie down - it happened, wasn’t trying to hurt the bloke, move on.. 

    Could agree more, accept that I'm really hoping the club does appeal and I think there a reasonable chance we will.

    Kossies was nothing like Maynard scum's hit.  Converged from the side and made minimal contact as opposed to a full on charge that was dangerous from the start.

    You could sense Goody being [censored] off in his presser that the media were turning their attention and gunning for Kossie to be rubbed out.  "Has made alot of changes to his game ... it looked pretty light" I seem to remember his words.

    Really sick of us being made scape goats like this.  They recon Ginivan has been denied free kicks, I think Kossie is being targeted by match review in a social sense. Loosing a player of Kossies quality for important games like the clash against Brisbane - enough is enough.  Everyone else appeals for stuff much more, it's about time we stood up for our players and team a bit more in this respects.

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  11. 8 hours ago, Winners at last said:

    The one commentator who loves the Dees is Montagna.

    Agree - he's been on us right from the start of the season.  Was calling out that he thought the of feild turmoil could have the effect of galvanizing the team when everyone else was writing us off and adding to the pile on.  It's been quite refreshing really.

     

    Also makes me laugh how some of the networks have reported that we've had a purple patch of form to start the season 3W - 1L (now 4W - 1L).  Wouldn't so much call that a purple patch when we've done it practically the last 3 seasons in a row prior, I'd just say that we've been performing up to existing standards and expectations for the team.

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  12. Will miss the first quarter or so of this game travelling on an interstate flight.

    The last time something similar happened, I switched onto the footy in my hotel in Perth and saw the MFC amazingly in the game on the scoreboard against Geeeelong at Cat park in Gawn's breakout game.  We know how that turned out!

    ...hopefully that's an omen.

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  13. 7 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

    Thanks for this, IHW. Rod was a legend and immensely popular with Dees' fans. Tremendous user of the ball, foot passer and no-nonsense approach to opposition players. Absolute delight to watch his efforts.

     

    3 hours ago, layzie said:

    Always loved Balls. Many of our players walked taller when he was in the side.

    Does a great job with the ex players group, you need people like that.

    Opposition fan's probably never saw him as the thug, but any true MFC supporter saw the skills and talented footballer in Rodney.

    ...and in an era where thuggery was tolerated and perhaps even celebrated, along with a few others like Danny Huges, he was OUR enforcer laying down the law.

    It's a different game now, but I do see guys in our team like May & Viney (& previously Hibbo) having a similar presence for us on the feild. 

    Doesn't get measured in any stat, but has a tangible effect on team performance IMHO.

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  14. 11 hours ago, DEE fence said:

    I’m going early with this but have been watching Chandler very closely this year and I see a different player to last year. I think he’s upped his endurance by about 15%. His pressure acts, and tackling have improved, and he remains brave as. I would very much like to see a proper I/V with him to get more of a sense of him, I’d like to believe he is a very decent young man. (Gus and Gawn he was hamming it up) 

    To my point, he is ANB 2.0, lots of hard defensive running, role player, and I think we are quickly starting to rely on his defensive pressure, it is something about his effort that makes me think he has moved past a few on the list. I was genuinely nervous when he’s had some leg knocks as I don’t think he’s obvious replacements match him for defensive efforts.

    For mine most improved player so far this season.

    Agree with a lot of that.

    I think he was doing alot of defensive stuff last year as well.  Like ANB, his ability to run both ways and also get on the end of it offensively is close to elite. 

    I think an area that he's actually a bit ahead of ANB is his goal kicking, both snapping out of a pack situation, but particularly his set shot kicking, which I'd almost put him up there as elite for.  Generally very reliable accuracy wise and he's also got a great range, being quite capable from 50m and even a bit beyond that.  Incidentally, I think this is an area of his game that ANB has also improved as I've noted him reciently being able to take advantage of the stand rule and slot goals from around 50m, where in the past, his range seemed to be more limited to around 40m.

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  15. Comparing the Crows to Port, it would be tempting to think the Crows are total rubbish having gone 0-3, as opposed to Ports 3-0 prior to playing us, but looking back at Adelaide's losses, none suggest to me they are anything near Hawthorn levels of ineptitude.

    Loosing last Rd by 35 points in Perth to a Freo that's flying at the moment isn't a huge loss in my mind.

    Quite wary of this game, particularly considering how sore Trac and Clarry looked to be in parts of the game last week.

    Season wise, I feel this is a huge game.  Win this one and it starts to solidify our top 4 spot before our bye, loose it and we're back with the pack.  We look pretty well focused and are playing with alot of fluency and confidence at the moment, so I have alot of faith in where our team is at, but this is yet another test of are we going to be genuine contenders or also rans this season.

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  16. 1 hour ago, Wrecker46 said:

    There was no malice from Chol in either of them. The May one happened right in front of me and i watched the Geelong game.

    May was flying back courageously at an angle at a furious pace.

    Happened in an actual footballing act not like that [censored] from Collingwood

    I'm satisfied that there isn't any malice, but I do think he owes other players a duty of care.

    Don't see how the league can outlaw sling tackles and shoulders that make head high contact, but allow other parts of the body to be used to the same effect.

    Broken ribs are one thing, but a massive wack with a knee to the head like that Geelong bloke copped is bloody dangerous.

    Does the AFL need to make a rule for every foreseeable use of the body that makes contact or just put the responsibility back on the player that they execute the way they play properly or get suspended.  If there isn't already a sufficiently general rule, they should make one pronto.

    I like Chol, but having his knees do the damage they have in the past two weeks tells me he doesn't care enough for his fellow competitors and needs to change the way he plays or should spend an extended period on the side lines. 

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