dee-luded

2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Just love your [censored] 'luded - keep up the good work!!

might have to go undercovers with the churchy stuff,  & come out incognito...  the way the tparty is acting up  & the religious right are working over our politicians,  out in front of the media this week,  &  mr 't' rabbot pulling up their rears,  they could get uglier & send out the cristian hitmen squads,  to do their bidding.

might have to go to ground like the 2nd world war underground.

those Vat icans have a lot to answer for.  Lets have those red files returned home (& turned over to the Royal Commission into Child Sexual Abuse);  that have been taken & hidden in the depths of the Vatican.  some think george took them over there on his promo'  to  Vat' City..

35 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

An echidna would be more appropriate DC. 

all the same I think daisy's motto is?   think he likes the look of them.

those lady's certainly seemed to find him, effective.

3 hours ago, nutbean said:

My only concern would be leg speed for a HBF

 

when he was fit,  he was as quick in leg-speed as Hodge,  similar athletically.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pr-melbourne-demons--jack-trengove

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-hawthorn-hawks--luke-hodge

Lets see if he can get the pace back that he had.

at the very least, we have to get him to 100 games in his career,  at a minimum.

1 hour ago, Choke said:

Yeah they don't give a [censored].

fight it!!! it has to be accurate If you can prove you were somewhere else at 2.25pm, even if still om the way then you were not at the place when it states & so should be null & void.

I fought a parking fine on my own in the city courts a few years back.  said a car reversed into mine pushing mine back 7 feet. & so half out of the parking box. 

The parking officer helped (I had to move my car) telling me privately, "the the MelbourneCityCouncil were worse them them", ('glen eira'). 

I won. 

27 minutes ago, Akum said:

... Or, in other words, there's a tendency to exaggerate his bad stuff & neglect his good stuff, in a way that's not supported by the stats.

What stands out about Grimes in that 2009 match compared to later years is his decisiveness. When he gets the ball, he instantly makes up his mind what to do with it and executes well, for the most part. For 9 games, he had excellent footy smarts, both in terms of positioning and disposal, with an ability to read the play 2 or 3 moves ahead.

The Grimes of c.2012 to 2015 would get the ball in space, first go one way then another, then a third, by which time 3 or 4 good leads have evaporated, then under pressure hurries a nothing kick down the line to a contest which occasionally goes over. The trouble with "this" Grimes is that in his leadership role he simply tried sooooooo hard to do everything Neeld's way, but this meant having to go against his natural instinct, so he was second-guessing a lot of the time, so his decisiveness was knocked out of him. As a consequence, he's probably the one whose game has been worst affected by the Neeld debacle.

From what we've seen so far in 2016, he seems to be back to taking the first option and trusting his instinct, like in 2009 & 2010. This is what Roos has been trying to get him to do for the past 2 seasons. And playing further forward - on the wing rather than HBF - seems to have helped this. And he has the added asset of being able to play tight when needed, so that if an opposing small forward starts to look dangerous or get on top of Jetta, he's good insurance to have in the team.

But he'll be under much more pressure in the real season, and whether he can maintain it (going hard with the first option) remains to be seen, along with whether he's actually best 22 or not. I'd say they'll probably lean toward experience rather than youth in the first couple of games, so he'll probably start the season in the 22. But if he doesn't perform at or near his best, he'll be overtaken sooner rather than later by the younger options. The same probably applies to Lumumba & perhaps Garland.

'the flood'  hurt him in that Melbourne side,   & now,  just maybe,  with the cap on rotations starting,,,  may just help him back.

1 hour ago, TRIGON said:

Optimistic that Jack can make his way back. Naturally has good stamina; the new interchange cap makes this attribute even more important. Can see him playing as a utility, much like Jimmy Bartel does for the Cats. Who would he replace? Would be competing for just about every role on the park except the spine and ruck positions.

Let's not forget that in 2014, when crocked, he still managed 20+ disposals. The kid knows how to play footy.

he's a footballer first, athelete +++

just needs to be fit & robust.  the type that would make coach Roosy drool.

lets hope he can find it again.

8 hours ago, daisycutter said:

have you thought of buying a pet anteater?

your leading us to, aren't you,   you evil thing you.              

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ac9XE2Koxg

& something different daisyc  >  www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0unVq-ANl4    

SWYL may like seeing thus ?      www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YiXsuyYa4c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXZqGI9zW0Y

I've wanted us to develop a rugged powerful 2nd Ruck/Follower for some years now,  in the mold of this one...  praise where it's due  >

look at theses images to see the skills & value.

powerful trunk & mind,  great hands together with balance,  excellent ball drop action,  agggression. hunger.  will wants to go.

23 minutes ago, juzzk1d said:

Will be used as a depth player and linger in the VFL.

Would rather have blokes like Stretch, ANB and Newton in the team over him.

 

 

Fortunately gifting games to young immature players has stopped.

They won't get a game until they are ready to jump right over the top of a standing senior player.  

Makes them more desperate & work harder.  work defensively, build their bodies in the gym, etc.

Not what happened during the 2000's.

.

15 hours ago, Josh said:

Ok Demonland, have an ant problem. Bad. They are under a foot path to my garden shed and seem to travel the whole property in search of food. Antrid has gotten them out of the house but can't get rid of the nest.

 

Any tips?

 

PS. Tried playing Collingwood theme song but the neighbours rang the police

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Get-Rid-of-Ants-Outdoor-Version/

http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-Ants

http://www.practicallyfunctional.com/get-rid-of-ants-with-borax/

http://lifehacker.com/5817218/how-to-get-rid-of-ants-naturally

1 hour ago, KingDingAling said:

Grimes is not up to it, and he hasn't been for a long time now.

but neither has Trengove.

it's way to early to say anything about his form in 2016,,,   as it hasn't even kicked off  yet.

5 hours ago, Good Times Grimes said:

MelbourneDemonsFooty has been kind enough to upload the final quarter of our Round 14, 2009 match against West Coast that we won by 20pts. While the overall standard is pretty low, one player that caught my eye (and received lots of praise from the commentators) is Jack Grimes. His last quarter was just about as good as you'll see from a half back flanker. He took a tonne of marks, his kicking was precise, he ran to support his teammates, he took the game on, and he just had an air of confidence about him. His final stat line for the game included 16 marks, 29 disposals at 79.3% efficiency and 0 clangers. He also received a Rising Star nomination and 3 Brownlow votes for his performance. These stats are made more remarkable when you consider that it was only his 9th game of footy. Watching this game got me thinking that 2009 Jack Grimes is exactly the type of player that our backline needs.

So what's happened with Grimes since then, and what does the future hold for him? It seems that 2016 could be the most important year of his career, and many on here have written him off already. This game is evidence that he has the ability to be a gun, but after watching him over the past few years his form has continued to dip and his skills have become a liability. Are his issues solely rooted in a lack of confidence in his own abilities? 

I think it's undisputed that the captaincy placed an unreasonable burden on Grimes at a time in his career when he should have been focusing on improving his own game rather than leading his teammates. I think it's also undisputed that he has gone from being one of our most promising young players to someone that is at risk of not being on the list at the end of the season.

I'm of the view that his game has deteriorated as a result of him not focusing enough on his own game in key developmental years and the best chance he has to resurrect his career would be to start playing some footy without having any pressure put on him. I'd like to see Grimes go back to Casey for the first half of the season and play in his natural HBF position. He needs to rebuild his confidence, and I think the best way for him to do this is to play a decent stretch of games in an environment where there isn't the same level of pressure to perform as there is in the seniors. If he can manage to regain the form that he showed early in his career it will go a long way towards making us become a successful side. 

 

 

excellent post GTG

12 hours ago, Demon_spurs said:

No. but just because you don't have a dominant ruckman all day is not the end of the world, where Max is great is his ability to gather the ball on the ground and take a pack mark, but ruckwork at times gets over rated.

Unskilled ruckwork is overrated.  You may as well have a journeyman as a defensive ruck & rove to the opposition. 

Clark Keating is one of the most effective rucks I've seen used in big games.  His damage was done crashing & bashing thru the opponents,  palming the ball,  & taking heavy marks around the ground.  An aggressive ruck.  He is exactly what we need in the pocket.

On 15/03/2016 at 5:37 PM, Little Goffy said:

If Trengove is taking the field for a practice match on the same day as round 1, I really hope the club has a plan to show him running on, getting a kick, laying a tackle and just being out there.

Half-time on the MCG screens and on TV,    a compilation video  of the journey back, finishing with a few snippets of footage from the practice game. Yes please.

On 15/03/2016 at 9:39 PM, beelzebub said:

we have control of screen at home games....make it so !!

I can see it now boys,,,  the intro might start something like this,  ' trenners journey baaaack '

On 11/03/2016 at 10:12 PM, beelzebub said:

Maybe it's me but strangely I'm a little underwhelmed as such. If he comes and fit. Good. If not..we move on. 

We've got a bit of talent to work with now. Don't need 'silver bullet' players any more. 

Really not that fussed.

ah Blzb,,,   look over there just for a minute  >  https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/24744302/triple-treat-for-eagles-re-signings/

.....  me thinks our work is not yet done,,,  we ought to pull out all his stops,  trying to hook him on a healthy compensation to return home.

3 hours ago, Demon_spurs said:

Maybe it's time our on ballers learned to rove to the opposition ruckman, it seems at times that the opposition have no problem taking the ball away when Max is rucking. Hit outs to advantage last week were well in favour of the opposing ruckman last week

so you think we should ruck aaron pederson,  & place Gawn in the forward pocket most game stretch put their defence on the rack,  as it were

than our sharks could shred the opp's ruckwork.

18 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I'd like to play....

cheers

...  "said the vicar"

or bigears,  to Bishop

24 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Yes. I will set it up this week and link to it. If you were a member last year it should automatically add you but I will post details shortly. 

thanks mate, I was there last year... but you wouldn't know.   I was putting tips in one month in advance & recheck midweek of game, if I remebered...

this year promises so much more.

  its nearly time,  is it on again?      bring it on !!!                                                     

1 hour ago, thesleepinggiant said:

Gone a bit early mate Few more topics/posts (good) before talking DYNASTY yet. Also the players listed are all complimentary players.

Its not the year its the core group which in my opinion is Hogan, Salem, Tyson, Viney, Petracca, Brayshaw, Oliver with maybe Weideman ?

Keeping them together in 3-5 years time might be tight ..?

DYNASTY's are not made from talking of them,,,   mostly talk of them only causes Rome to Fall.

I think they a built on quiet & strong foundations of hard work,  & real talented builders.  they happen from this quietly, & then they stand for the ages.

1 hour ago, Choke said:

I'm so glad that I haven't been around long enough to associate pain and disappointment with most of those names.

You older supporters must be made of some pretty stern stuff.

Yes, but its mostly only rust nowadays,  Ch... & will

2 hours ago, rpfc said:

21 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Would never happen - too awkward marrying someone with the same name as your sister.

Besides, Jess Trengove is just so all-round awesome that she transcends sexual preference.

 

I hear The Ox was tested after his radio spot and found to have substantial traces of Melodramaium.

 

1992 - 20 goals, 7 behinds.

1994 - 60 goals, 23 behinds

1999 -  38 goals, 27 behinds

2000 - 31 goals, 35 behinds

Bullseye, dee-luded.

A couple thoughts:

1. Schwarta deserved that line about accuracy. Whether it is seen as playful from Hogan or dismissiveness - how David can call a few stuttered kicks at goal in the PS a 'disgrace' is beyond me, especially when he has a season of very straight kicking under his belt.

2. This talk of 8 or 10 year contracts is farcical. This bloke will be in the top 20 players in the game for a decade and I know $1m seems like a lot of money now, and it is, but the game is growing so quickly that in a ten year contract Hogan will be over paid for a season, rightly paid for two seasons and underpaid for the rest of the ridiculously long contract that many of you think he can't turn down. The cap was approx. $7.2m (with Additional Service Agreements) in 2007 and in 2016 is $11.3m. That has taken a $720k contract from 10% to 6.3% of the cap 10 seasons later. That discrepancy will any get more exponential in the future as the cap jumps a few million dollars in 2017 and rises more and more every year.

I'd like someone to go thru Schwarta's goal kicking stats, pre knee injuries, & again after the operations...  I thin the Ox's % pre knee? might be Xcellent.

3 hours ago, Peter Griffen said:

Jesse to me comes across as one of the more genuine guys during interviews

excuse my maths wjhat doe s it equate to re conversion %'s ?

2 hours ago, deanox said:

If he has plantar fascitis I suspect that he will be able to play whenever needed if Gawn goes down but they are resting him now to try and get over it before the season starts. 

Having had it a few years ago, it is the type of injury that causes pain in the morning,  when you stop for a break and horribly after the game but once you are warmed up and going you can play through it.  At AFL level that may be difficult for a sustained period of time but it is possible. It is a strange injury, excruciatingly painful and you can't weight bear at times but somehow you can play through it.  However recovery is a long process involving staying off your feet or worse 

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/how-kennedy-broke-in-his-foot-20120401-1w6h8.html

Mark Jamar had it, plantar fasciitis

Bbo will like this one

http://www.theballetblog.com/portfolio/the-best-treatment-for-plantar-fasciitis-in-dancers/

... and old dee as well

http://centre.atlantaballet.com/news/dr-sinkoe-offers-advice-for-the-dancer-with-plantar-fasciitis

1 hour ago, rpfc said:

A couple thoughts:

1. Schwarta deserved that line about accuracy. Whether it is seen as playful from Hogan or dismissiveness - how David can call a few stuttered kicks at goal in the PS a 'disgrace' is beyond me, especially when he has a season of very straight kicking under his belt.

2. This talk of 8 or 10 year contracts is farcical. This bloke will be in the top 20 players in the game for a decade and I know $1m seems like a lot of money now, and it is, but the game is growing so quickly that in a ten year contract Hogan will be over paid for a season, rightly paid for two seasons and underpaid for the rest of the ridiculously long contract that many of you think he can't turn down. The cap was approx. $7.2m (with Additional Service Agreements) in 2007 and in 2016 is $11.3m. That has taken a $720k contract from 10% to 6.3% of the cap 10 seasons later. That discrepancy will any get more exponential in the future as the cap jumps a few million dollars in 2017 and rises more and more every year.

I'd like someone to go thru Schwarta's goal kicking stats, pre knee injuries, & again after the operations...  I thin the Ox's % pre knee? might be Xcellent.

1 hour ago, rpfc said:

Can we cool the talk of 'dynasties' until we actually do something more than win 7 games in a season?

less talk of it & more work towards making success happen... thats a good start.