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2 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

I think he's Nev's cousin, Daz.

Haha....

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Hope you're reading this Alan Richardson..

Of course Drysdale Demon has to face palm a comment that's clearly a sarcastic response.. just another day where anything and everything offends this fella.

Can't wait for the reports @Bleasey as that @Gawndy the Great , us folks certainly appreciate the time and effort, especially making the trek out to Casey.

Hope you're reading this Alan Richardson..

10 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

I don’t think anyone has mentioned it but Noah Yze was training today, and for a kid who has another year before drafting, he sure fitted in as much as any of this years draftees. He is a good height and we were trying to compare him to others around . He appeared to be just below Steve May in height.

 Importantly he knows how to play football. And will be an easy F/S selection given what we saw.

Noah Yze is 190cm tall.

10 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Verrall does a few promising things, a tackle, a mark, a ground ball get, KFW is still a mile off. 

Not surprised one bit.

How were our back up rucks in Will Verrall and KFW?

How did Woewodin go in the match sims?

Hey @Six6Six, great work on the photos. Just wondering, the videos play up every now and then and will randomly stop. Anyway we can view them just as a gallery itself instead of a video slideshow?

9 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Lyon has 3 adult sons that couldn't or wouldn't make the grade.

Neita has 2 daughters probably both aged under 10.

Ox has a teenage son (and daughter I think). Does anybody know if he's jumping up the ranks or even plays footy?

 

Ox young boy Cooper, has gone down the basketball path and is not pursuing footy.

Thanks for the report @picket fence.. certainly appreciated for the likes of myself who live in a different state and can't attend.

I'm interested around your comment with Josh Schache? Does he playing the roaming CHF role using his high endurance levels or is he poaitioned as as the stay at home forward? Then obviously playing as the 2nd ruck role as well which we'll need for Max. 

Also, how was Ollie Sestan during that session?

8 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

This is typical of what can be done if we had a Comms team that was capable of anything other than taking happy snaps of players whose names we already know..."

https://www.nmfc.com.au/news/1481945/training-report-young-forwards-fire-in-match-sim

For a club that is an absolute rabble on field, they've got this media stuff down pat compared to a team that's finished top 4 three years in a row and with 70k fan base..

Thought I'd do a random stop by and see if other clubs were doing similar to North. First one I checked out was Freo and this is what they had up on their website. Well worth a look @12345_54321

https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/1482129/three-things-we-saw-wing-spot-heating-up

It's no doubt we really are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to this stuff.

26 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said:

Am aware of that. Although compared to other clubs, we are very average in any content area. Wish it would be improved upon.

I agree.

44 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said:

Yeah don’t think the clubs social media team ventured out either….. pathetic with barely any updates or content as always.

They usually post photos in the afternoon after every training session. 

4 minutes ago, 58er said:

PF Your entitled to your view but I  think you are blinkered with Bill. He is showing much more skill running power and maturity for a big tilt at the Seniors. His skills are great and he can finish with a nice goal. 

Open up to his potential please 2024 looks like he can make the grade. 

Is this based on your training observations?

29 minutes ago, Macca said:

Why would I need to research how many k's that Petracca runs when I was having a guess?  It was a generality

If I had presented my comment as fact you'd have a point but I didn't present my guess as a fact

You've once again made a mountain out of a molehill over a general comment and a guess

And you completely missed the thrust of my argument where I was saying that Petracca is much more than just a burst player

As for sounding off at Goodwin because our players missed a few shots at goal, that just highlighted your lack of accountability on the players themselves

As I said to you at the time, the players need to take ownership with their own errors.  The coach can't kick the ball for them

 "You've once again made a mountain out of a molehill"

The hypocrisy is real here. Bizarrely rambling about something thats completely off topic.

Without wanting to derail further and I'll leave it at this. Please pin point me to that discussion where I solely blame the coaches for missing goals and we can discuss further. I would like to think I'm also outlining a number of factors why we've lost games and that's purely players and coaches taking responsibility and ownership for that.

Macca, after all that, this might come as a surprise to you but I like your content and what you add on here. I don't mind having the strong robust footy discussions and look forward to having more of this in 2024.

Go Dees.

6 hours ago, Macca said:

More to the point is do you agree with me that Petracca is not just a burst player?

That's what my original post was in reference to 

And if you read the dozen posts prior to my original post, it might make sense to you

By the way, do you still blame the coach when our players miss easy shots at goal?  I'm still waiting for your reply on that baffling observation

No it made complete sense. But my response was to you stating that every week Petracca would be clocking up 15kms every week which going off the AFL tracker he actually doesn't nor did he hit the 15km mark. So not only were you way off, it wouldnt have hurt you to do your research first. 

My whole point is was highling Petracca strengths which just shows that whilst Petracca isn't a gut runner which we don't need him to be, his ability to read the game and position himself in good spots to win the footy around stoppages is elite. Also taking into account his mental strength in pushing through to contests and being the big game that he is. 

In regards to your last paragraph, please enlighten me what on earth does that actually has to do with this topic? Just because you're getting sour doesnt mean you start randomly nit picking to suit your narrative. That would be like me saying lets pull out all the ridiculous tripe you've spewed over the journey as well, which would be silly because it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.

And if so, can you please pin point me to my exact comment you highlighted? I actually think you've got me mixed up with someone else but happy to explore. 

22 minutes ago, Macca said:

Well, as far as I'm concerned he does a hell of a lot of running in order to get to any number of contests (and that includes stoppages)

His style also includes a number of burst plays but all of Oliver, Viney, Brayshaw & Kozzie can display those traits from stoppages from time to time

It's just that what Petracca does stands out which might lead people into thinking that, that's all he does

And my original post was in response to one such person who was suggesting that he's only a burst player

He's a lot more than that

So in other words.. you do agree with me in my initial response to you?

9 minutes ago, Macca said:

Not sure how reputable the web site is in this link but in it, they make mention that AFL players have exceeded 20k's per game

How far do AFL players run in a game

About as reputable as the daily mail. 

6 minutes ago, Macca said:

Do you want to post up a link as I'm not inclined to take your word for it

And it's not like Petracca fails to run out games if that's what you are suggesting.  He's quite often full of running in the last quarter's of games.  Racking up possessions

He's not just a burst player either but it might look that way to the untrained eye

This you're actually missing my point.. which is, he's not there to rack up big kms in games, as he makes up for it with what I've already explained about 4 posts above.

His impact on games and his individual accolades speaks enough for itself.

No.

4 minutes ago, Macca said:

Well he might have averaged 13.5 k's for all you know.  Yours is a guess, not fact

So around 13ks - 14ks is still a of running.  And that would put him into an area that a lot of midfielders would be in

Okay.. I'll spell it out to you. He didn't top 14 or even 13.. thats an actual fact through the AFL tracker.

Hence why I said he's probably averaging roughly around the 10-12 because that's the part where I made my guess. 

53 minutes ago, Macca said:

AFL players run 12-14 kilometres per game and some exceed 20k's

Midfielders especially need to get to a stack of contests as well as flooding back and pressing forward.  All that 2-way running.  Stoppage after stoppage

So Petracca being a midfielder would mean he would do a lot of running and in bursts, a lot of sprinting

At a guess I reckon he would exceed 15 kilometers per game and that's every week.  You've got to be very fit to do all that

So imagine being an 18yo coming into the AFL system?  It would be quite an eye-opener.  It's any wonder we often hear that players need 2 or 3 years to be AFL ready

As for soft tissue injuries, players need to be managed to the minute to avoid 

But even so, running 15k's in a full-on contact sport with all the physicality involved is quite a task.  Every week

So Petracca would need to be as fit as a Mallee bull (and in my view, he is) 

But he didn't though.. and not sure where on earth you're pulling numbers randomly that players have exceeding 20kms a game? No one has ever topped covered 20kms a game.

On the Petracca one, Langdon, Hunter and Alex Neale Bullen were our top 3 players who racked up top km's for 2023. Langdon was averaging up around the 16km mark and both Hunter and ANB were roughly averaging 15kms per game.

As a matter of fact, Petracca did not once finish top 5 in any games last year for kms covered in games.. Even the likes of Petty, Lever and Bowey were all able to finish top 5 in games for most distance covered. Fact was, not once did Petracca ever clock up 14 or 15kms a game at all again last year. My guess is that he roughly averaged around the 10-12 kms covered per game.

This may come as a surprise to some of you but he simply isn't an endurance beast as some of you are making out and never was.. You'll never see him up at the top end of the time trails nor will he be pegged in the fitter group of runners.

It's his ability to read the game and knowing where to be positioned to win the ball is what makes him the player he is now. His game sense being at the right spot at the right time in big games is all we need and hence why he's makes up for it for his lack of endurance. 

That's what's so freakish about Petracca is that whilst He'll never clock up big numbers in distance covered, he makes up for it by running to the right spots and positioning well around stoppages.

In the AFL environment, if you have an average endurance base then you quickly need to have a second set of tools to have to make up for the perceived "lack of tank" otherwise you're no good to the team unfortunately. 

On 19/01/2024 at 06:23, Chook said:

You don't talk up a Melbourne player by saying another team's player sucks.

I can and I just did? I don't talk up every single Melbourne player like you think I would.

JVR is a very special talent and warrants the endorsement. 

18 minutes ago, Redleg said:

That is surprising if true, as most players starting again at a new club, usually put in the effort to arrive in good condition, to impress their club and give themselves the best chance of success.

Yes and no.

Steven May, by his own admission and the club, turned up in poor condition at the Dees which obviously played a huge part in his 2019 being injury riddled.

No coincidence that since then, his preparation has resulted him in a couple of All Australians and rated as one of the best full backs of the game.