Chris

The only thing i would have liked to see Oscar do on the weekend that he didn't was in the passage of play where he invented the field dribble pass. I would have loved him to keep running, get to 50 and nail the goal. He had the room but I think lacked the confidence. Hopefully that will come. If he had done that though we wouldn't all have had a great laugh and seen the invention of a new pass!

And then win the final and put an end to the whole fourthorn crap!

Ask BBO, he may have some tips.

Your kidding right? Surely he can't claim that

McVeigh has never appeared to have a very good understanding of the whole thing to me. Especially the ramifications of what went on. He seems to be stuck in the whole 'the club is bigger than the world' mentality.

Isn't comfortable satisfaction an Australian 'invention' anyway and can't it still be used in our court system as it was used in this case? My understanding is that strands in a cable is also not unheard of within our legal system, and they agreed to it. Can't see how it would stand up.

This is the comparison of our backs to their forwards: MFC Back HFC Fwd Diff Age 21.8 24.8 -3.0 Games 46.2 104.8 -58.7 Not quite as big a gap but still sizable. Their backs have 6.5 years and 128 games on our forwards. The difference is stark!

Has BBO taken over your account?

A few stats on the game. MFC HFC Diff Average Age 22.6 26.5 -3.8 Average Games 56.6 137.0 -80.4 Back Line Ave Age 21.8 28.7 -6.8 Ave Games 46.2 190.5 -144.3 Fol (includes wing) Ave Age 24.5 28.3 -3.8 Ave Games 101.8 184.0 -82.2 Fwd Ave Age 22.2 24.8 -2.7 Ave Games 62.2 104.8 -42.7 Int Ave Age 21.8 22.8 -1.0 Ave Games 38.5 34.3 4.3 Melbourne Games Backline Fol Fwd Int total 0-50 4 1 4 3 12 51-100 2 3 0 1 6 101-150 0 0 2 0 2 151-200 0 1 0 0 1 200+ 0 1 0 0 1 22 HFC Games Backline Fol Fwd Int total 0-50 0 1 2 3 6 51-100 1 1 0 1 3 101-150 1 1 3 0 5 151-200 1 0 1 0 2 200+ 3 3 0 0 6 22 MFC Back HFC Fwd Diff Age 21.8 24.8 -3.0 Games 46.2 104.8 -58.7 MFC Fwd HFC Back Age 22.2 28.7 -6.5 Games 62.2 190.5 -128.3 This has to be the youngest side we have put on the field in a long time and the comparison with the Hawks doesn't make pretty reading. I have a gut feeling something special is on the cards but wont be at all surprised if we lose this by our biggest margin of the year.

I vote for the Jacks to fly the flag! Viney will no matter what but wouldn't be great to see Wattsy showing the leadership and standing up for the young one. There would be a certain amount of him coming the full circle with that.

The only issue I see with your argument is that the 2 Adelaide premierships were in Goodwins first 2 years on the list so I am not sure you could say he was their best. Blight may still have had the impact on Goodwin you are arguing though, especially as he was his first AFL coach and his most successful.

Just a thought on the over use and inability to score issue that has appeared in the last few weeks. Is it a case of (sorry for quoting Roosy) getting the balance right. We were all arguing that our defence leaked like a sieve yet our attack was good, although we did still over use it. Have the coaches identified this after some of our poor games and are now simply trying to get the balance back by telling the players we need to defend better and this has cost us our attack. If this is the case it would make sense that our leaders were the ones going defensive, which is evident by not taking the game on, as they are the ones trying to implement what the coaches want whereas the kids may not be as disciplined. I think if we go all out attack we are very good at it, we are also pretty good at all out defence, we just suck at combining the two at the minute. If you look at the WC game we defended and held the ball in very well all game, we just couldn't bloody score yet the saints game we couldn't defend at all it seemed. Now against GC we kind of did both bits OK but neither very well.

There was one instance at a throw in on about there 50 line on the MCC side. It was right in front of me where Gawn had both arms out with a Gold Coast player hanging off each one. Not sure you can have 2 rucks but they seemed to be allowed to.

You are missing a player to lead the defence, every other area of the ground is covered. I would have TMac or maybe Jetta in there for that role, or maybe a new recruit senior player if we land one as Jetta and TMac are both still fairly inexperienced themselves. I also wouldn't have Vince in there, he seems to be the social leader of the club, not the game day leader. Not sold on Gawn either but also not against it. I would have: C - N Jones VC - J Viney (to take over in 2019) Forward - Watts Backs - TMac Mids - Tyson (Jones and Viney fill this role as well and would give Tyson some good experience for once Jones has gone) Other - Jetta

It wasnt me who has said winning is everything BB, it wasn't me who said I was happy with today, it wasn't me who refuses to see positives in losses either. I also haven't said we are there. But hey, contradict what you said last week, thats fine. The fact is we found a way to win, that is what you said you wanted to see so why are you not happy?

BY, here is a quote from you last week. "Whilst many bask in the luminosity of our great positives I'm bemused how few seem concerned about the inabity to craft a win. This is not about them 'trying' to win, which they obviously were, it's about any capability to make the magic work when required. In contrast the team that should have lost by all accounts didn't. They found a way to win. We need to find this ability." I take from that that you would be happy today as we seem to have found the ability you were after?

It is actually differing opinions on how to perform at an elite level and what that takes. Just glad you aren't the coach.

You miss the point and what is needed to perform at the top level completly though so there is no point in pointing it out again.

So in essence the skills they bring when they are 18 are as good as their skills will ever get and there is no point continuing to practice as you will not get better? I am really glad you are not coaching this side Saty as we would be wiped off the park every single week.

There are only a few possible plausible explanations. What Myke did deserve a while on the pine, no reason he can come up with could save him from that. That means he got off either due to the incompetence of the tribunal, or he got off for 'other' reasons which we will never be sure of. By 'other' I mean things like not attracting negative attention to the league, instructions from above etc. No matter the reasons given there is no excuse for him not being suspended and it is wrong.

Stuie, what possible evidence gets you off biting someone, you either did it or you didn't, there are very few excuses for doing so and about the only things I can think of is if you feel your life is in danger, which Myke's wasn't, or you have Rabies, which I don't think Myke does, although I am not 100% sure from watching the vision. Please feel free to let me know any possible reason why he would get off when he BIT someone.

A few stats on the full 25 man squad MFC GCS Diff Average Age 23.5 23.4 0.2 Average Games 69.3 68.5 0.8 Back Line Ave Age 23.3 25.0 -1.7 Ave Games 47.7 108.5 -60.8 Fol (includes wing) Ave Age 24.5 21.5 3.0 Ave Games 100.8 43.0 57.8 Fwd Ave Age 22.0 21.9 0.1 Ave Games 85.7 68.0 17.7 Int Ave Age 22.0 21.9 0.1 Ave Games 46.9 56.4 -9.6 Melbourne Games Backline Fol Fwd Int total 0-50 3 1 3 5 12 51-100 3 3 0 1 7 101-150 0 0 3 1 4 151-200 0 1 0 0 1 200+ 0 1 0 0 1 25 GCS Games Backline Fol Fwd Int total 0-50 0 5 2 5 12 51-100 4 1 4 1 10 101-150 0 0 0 0 0 151-200 1 0 0 1 2 200+ 1 0 0 0 1 25 MFC Back GCS Fwd Diff Age 23.3 21.9 1.5 Games 47.7 68.0 -20.3 MFC Fwd GCS Back Age 22.0 25.0 -3.0 Games 85.7 108.5 -22.8 I think it is the first time this year that I have done this (I have missed a few games) where we aren't the youngest less experienced side. Although the numbers here are so close you may as well call it a draw. It says something when this is basically our side for this year who have won 7 games so far and we are only just matching another young side in experience who are missing a big chunk of experience through injury yet have won less games than us. We should win by 10 goals plus but I really wont be surprised if Lynch and co up forward get a hold of us and we lose.

They will be suing as the AFL is the ultimate employer. If they do then I would think it would take all of 2 minutes for the AFL to include the EFC in proceedings. The AFL defence against it all is that they had procedures in place and they stuck to them and that they warned the AFL and took the correct action as soon as they were aware of wrong doing. The AFL may fall over if they can't demonstrate that. The EFC on the other hand may as well start writing blank cheques.

Wouldn't practices and mastering the skills be paramount in being able to execute at AFL level? Wouldn't also the coaches at AFL level have specific ways of doing things that make those requisite skills elite and not just junior level? Wouldn't the step up a grade also require you to increase your skills to match, which again requires practice? On Keith Richards, I am more than certain he would have practiced quite a lot in the earlier years but once you have done the same thing for 40 years you should have the routine down to the point you do it automatically. That doesn't come over night. You argument is just plain wrong and flies in the face of the actions of every elite sports person on the planet.

The thing that gets to me with the Tyson one is that it could just as easily have been a free to Tyson as the WC player slid into his legs diving for the ball. That free was fairly clear, although maybe a little soft, yet the deliberate was paid which was not clear and subject to heaps of interpretation.