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Amusing. van Rooyen was drafted in 2021. His first year of football was playing VFL in 2022. His second year of footy was playing AFL in 2023, ie two years after he was drafted, yet it's counted in column ''1''. Larkey was drafted in 2016 and played just 2 games in 2017, while Allen was drafted in 2017 and played 2 games in 2018. Their only 2 games in their respective first years are correctly counted in column ''1'', ie one year after they were drafted, yet van Rooyen's zero games are not. van Rooyen's second year on a list are matched against Allen's and Larkey's first year on a list. If you can't see the discrepancy I'm not talented enough to educate you. Btw, I'm sure others in the stats provided are in the same boat as Allen and Larkey.

Your reply has zero to do with my post.

Your stats are misleading. You should have zero in van Rooyen's first year and 28 in his second. Larkey, Allen, and Naughton all played footy in their first year on a list, while van Rooyen didn't crack a game. Larkey and Allen played just 2 games, while Naughton played his entire first year as a key defender.

Billings has always been a terrible kick for goal.

Fitting and somewhat ironic. Viney's and Wines' first ever AFL games were against each other in round one 2013 at the 'G when Wines won the RS nomination and Melbourne were thrashed by 79 points.

Carlton. Easily.

Maybe a little. I think it's easy to see little bits in lots of different players. For example, my Brother sees a bit of Gerard Healy in Windsor. I see a little bit of Bailey Smith in the way they move. But the one player that has never had anyone remotely resemble him is Flower. I've never seen anyone that reminds me of Flower. They used to say Dean Kemp, but I couldn't see it in him either. But each to their own.

Disagree.

I saw a lot of Flower. Nothing of Windsor reminds me of Flower.

Gawn Oliver May Petracca Billings Viney

I'd bring in Hore. We play 7 defenders in the 22. May, Lever, Tomlinson, Rivers, McVee, Howes and Hore is a strong unit. McVee can take Weightman. I mentioned Woewodin earlier, but I acknowledge that's unlikely. The Dogs are naturally taller in the front half than many other sides, so Hore makes sense as an intercepter at 191cm, who's still agile enough to be a flanker. And it allow Salem to stay midfield. Imagine abandoning Salem as a midfielder after one game after it's been earmarked for two years ? It doesn't make sense to me.

I don't think he has, but considering it's the easiest gig in football and he's played there as a junior, I suspect he'd cope well.

Woewodin played half-back for East Fremantle (as well as midfield and forward). He's fast and well skilled. I like speed from a running back. In his third year I see no reason he couldn't slot in there, especially as we've now got 3 wingmen ahead of him.

They won't abandom the Salem midfield move after one game. They've been trying to get him into the midfield for two years.

Jefferson has talent, but little aggression or intensity. The bad news is that's the hardest trait to instill into a player. Further bad news is that it's the most important trait for a key forward. Defence is a far easier position for someone with his DNA. I'm dubious that he'll ever make an AFL key forward. I know those with red and blue goggles have conniptions about such views.