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I'd never spent much time researching the fors and against of satellite v surface temperature data, because it hasn't interested me much. The planet is always heating or cooling and after coming out of the little ice age some warming is to be expected. And I'm in the camp that some warming is better than no warming. I'm also dubious that a trace element that is one half of one tenth of 1% of the Earth's total atmosphere could be such a driver of temperature. And man accounts for about 3-4% of CO2 produced. CO2 has been far more abundant in periods when it's been colder than today. Trillions of dollars spent now on GW doesn't make much sense to me when future generations are going to have technology that makes us look like cavemen. And the UN makes it clear that the climate change agenda really isn't about climate anyway. Back to your excellent post. It seems you're right about this argument. Goddard posted this recent blog: https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2016/01/18/the-satellite-deniers/ In it he points out a problem: The 1995 IPCC report, authored by none other than NOAA’s own Tom Karl, showed that satellite temperatures matched NOAA balloon data, and that neither showed any warming since 1979. That said, he doesn't counter or reference the types of claims you've made above. The bottom line for me, Doctor, is that models have nearly always been wrong for 40 years and always over predict temperature rises. And it's not hard to realise why they're wrong when the climate is influenced by 100's of factors. And for me, the driver of climate is the Sun not CO2.

The sooner Weideman and perhaps Hulett become mainstays the better. I'm also looking forward to Oliver, Stretch, Harmes and perhaps White locking down positions.

Inside Football's Best Demon's 22 - Brett Anderson (Dees supporter) Jetta I Dunn I Garland Salem I McDonald I Lumumba Brayshaw I Vince I Tyson vandenBerg I Dawes I Kent Garlett I Hogan I Petracca R: Gawn I Jones I Viney I: Frost I Kennedy I Watts I Bugg

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You may be right and I'm not up to date with all the papers, but where is it stated that GWS were aware of him being "genuinely unwell" ? And what's wrong with him ?

Having a kick and giggle in your 20's isn't the same as growing up with the game and understanding its nuances, but kudos for having a go, chap.

I wouldn't expect an Englishman who's never played the game to understand.

So Salem played off half-back instead of wing ?

Frost is a far better backman, but unfortunately it looks like he's in line to play forward for balance/need and take the second ruck role.

How do you predict a problem when at the end of his first year he signs a 3 year extension ? When he was seeking a trade to Freo it was one year into a 3 year contract. He'd fulfilled 33.3% of said contract.

McCarthy is a spoilt sook. GWS were right not to trade him. You can't just pick and choose where you'll work when you're under contract. He knew what was on offer when he entered the draft. It might have been different if Freo offered anything half decent. They didn't enhance prospects of a trade.

McCarthy is a spoilt sook. GWS were right not to trade him. You can't just pick and choose where you'll work when you're under contract. He knew what was on offer when he entered the draft. It might have been different if Freo offered anything half decent. They didn't enhance prospects of a trade.

Any way you want to slice it or dice it Toumpas was hopeless in contests. He had a terrible percentage ratio of contested ball in juniors but it was overlooked and didn't hinder his draft status. Unfortunately, it was magnified at VFL and AFL levels against stronger bodies. In Harry Hindsight it's a lesson worth remembering. Which doesn't mean you'll run a line through future juniors with poor contested ball ratios, but you'll have a question mark. I'm not a huge fan of Ben Kennedy (fantastic junior), but at least he dominates at VFL level. Toumpas was ordinary at that level too. I don't feel any sympathy for Toumpas, it just is what it is. Can he turn it around at Port ? Don't know don't care.

Thanks for all this. It's a bit to digest, so I'm going to have a closer look over the weekend.

Yeah, it's called parliament.

Or one of the Morcombes for all of the good work they do in schools. Australian of the Year now seems little more than a platform to push political agendas and appease "progressives".

Seemingly, you know more about this Christian Group than me. I don't have the inclination to scour their site for every morsel of information that outlines their views on GW and how it intertwines with their faith. However, you assert their views are based on "superstition". Fact or fiction ? Or do you think all faiths fall into that category ? But you also say "these clowns probably do". What do you mean "probably" ? If you're right be more specific and highlight why you consider their views are based on "superstition". You also talk of "loony charivari of denialism". I must say it's a nice colourful turn of phrase. Are you suggesting the science is "settled" ? As far for the other question ... Why do you consider it "loaded" ? It's a very important question that needs to be addressed. You either agree that data sets have been manipulated by NASA and NOAA, or you don't. And if you do, what's their motivation ? If you don't, well, there's no need to answer that last little bit... Then again, maybe you just don't know and are open to the idea that it's a possibility, which would also be quite reasonable.

She's got all she needs at work.

It's not even tenuous. Try again. And then answer the question.

I agree. Better to keep yourself a small target, eh Drone ?

When have I brought up Spencer or Christians ? Christians aren't the only humans to have a faith, ask environmentalists. And no, Spencer wouldn't be the only one to suggest satellite data is superior to surface temperatures. 70% of the Earth's surface is water. You supposedly have a science background, what are your views on NASA manipulating data and previous temperature records ?

Weak. You made am assertion so now educate everybody with your knowledge. Waiting...

I'm all ears ?