KingDingAling

7 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

He's a battler. Burst onto the scene 4-5 years ago with great run and found a bit of ball. His ball use has always ben suspect though, and he's been pushed out of the midfield rotation by superior players. He'll likely find a home somewhere else in future, but he's a battler and wouldn't get a game for us.

His younger brother in the draft this year on the other hand... he's got potential.

Younger brother most definitely does have potential. I spoke to a bloke the other day who said he’s the best junior he’s seen play.

2 hours ago, Dave1711 said:

If Simon Goodwin continues to coach Melbourne we won’t win another flag. He is insipid, a deadset monotone bore, he never makes changes that work, McDonald should not have even played last night but to give him 4 quarters was agonising. Schache sat there all night, McDonald ran around like a kindergarten pupil playing against men.The driviling [censored] the forward line gave us last night was the camel, that’s it for me, if Goodwin is coach next year I’m out, I’ll save a couple grand on membership fees and I’ll put it towards much healthier pursuits like golf.  
Probably have PTSD so counseling is gonna cost me.

 

Goodwins message isn’t getting through. We should part ways amicably and give someone else a shot at it.

19 minutes ago, Dingo said:

This has probably been explained, but when Brody goes to the Swans , do we get a pick from them?

Depends if we are contributing to his wage. I suspect if we did, then Pick 11 could be in the works.

7 minutes ago, Garbo said:

No draft picks are likely to help in the near term, if we want to win with the list we have right now we must trade for a key fwd. The other choice is to draft best available trade for players on the cheap and accept we probably just aren’t good enough right now but happy to play finals for years to come not unlike cats the last decade. I’d vote for the latter over risking it all to maybe get 1 more now.

We had Jesse and kicked it over his head every week, then cursed him for he’s body language. 

1. A disciplined coach

2. A disciplined game plan

3. Capable assistant coaches

4. Clayton Oliver (hope he stays)

5. Rivers in the midfield 

I think it’s fantastic we got Grundy back on the park, so his trade value should not diminish. Sydney will be a great cultural fit for him. We didn’t need Grundy. He was as surplus to needs, as all the points we kicked tonight. This club needs an overhaul. It’s ridiculous.

I don’t know about insane, but having an apprenticeship under Thompson and Hird, no doubt helping us

1 minute ago, Greendale said:

Still think we've had the best list for the last four years straight. TMac a significant weakspot, and Jordon not quite up to it, but our topliners are unmatched. Steven May incredible tonight against the best forward in the comp.

You have good judgment. Likewise, I agree, however, I just believe we by far and away 10 miles to none have the best list. We fluked the 2021 flag, and now we pay he price. Our coach lacks discipline. Our players are ineffective. This Is a whole other convo, but, if Goodwin remains, then certain players are going to waste. That being said, I speak of discipline. As a club, we really do need to be led correctly. We were partially sidelined by Paul Roos endorsing Goodwin, primarily because Roos believed Goodwin was best suited to carry on Roos vision. Big mistake. I believe it is. I really don’t know why we appointed the bloke, and Roos aside, we wouldn’t have.

27 minutes ago, joeboy said:

Gawn - overwhelmed and outplayed

Viney - disappointing and careless 

Petracca - couldn’t lift team

Oliver - disposals regularly amateurish 

May - dominated his opponent 

Salem - tentative and loose

Rivers - lacked expected drive

Langdon - continued disappointing year

McVee - calm under pressure 

Pickett - hard to rate

Lever - controlled the defense 

Spargo - some deft touches

Chandler - little impact again 

Fritsch - just some cameos 

McDonald - couldn’t justify selection 

Neal-Bullen - seemingly no role

Tomlinson - effective albeit loose

Bowey - poor under pressure 

Hunter - couldn’t provide connection 

Smith - provided some energy

Jordan - had no influence 

Sparrow - an almost game 

 

ANB was enormous. 

Disciple manifests from the top down. 

We have bombed the ball inside our forward since Moloney/Jamar. We just happened to pinch the 21 flag. Supporters are happy enough with that.

Listen to them. We squandered our best asset - our lead. Be hard now. 

Typical Melbourne

Just now, Clintosaurus said:

These umpires. Will not pay us anything.

Skills pay the bills. This game ain’t got many 

We need a forward 

10 minutes ago, praha said:

Langdon and Salem just don't have the energy for finals.

I’d agree

The umpires helped Carlton. That wasn’t a free kick that resulted in their last goal. Whoever wins tonight I think will go far. But I love seeing daring football. There is an opportunity to switch the play and run and gun.

Discipline is a big thing in football 

Can’t believe we played Jordon 

Kick the ball off the ground out of congestion. Outside of that I can’t see how the AFL avoid concussion within the contest. The contested area already doesn’t make sense. Players don’t understand it. Someone will snap their neck soon. The only way out of that is to kick it off the ground out of congestion. But that wouldn’t be considered I doubt. But basically, the game is heavily focused around the contested ball. It’s at the heart of Aussie Rules. If they change that they change the game. But if they don’t do something they’ll face payouts the AFL won’t come back from. 

21 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

If Angus Brayshaw's footy career ends due to this tragic concussion injury and his previous history of concussions then the AFL and Brayden "the Thug" Maynard better watch out.

I can see this all going to court for lack of duty of care and Angus Brayshaw having his football career ruined. Mark my words, there will be legal consequences in the future!

I hope it does go to court. Brayshaw deserves compensation. 

Depends who is footing the bill.

28 minutes ago, Macca said:

Correct

Grundy is too good a footballer (from an overall perspective) to not be included in the team now

Nothing against the kid, but I'm convinced that Grundy would have been much better value than Laurie on Thursday night.  One is a seasoned veteran whilst the other is just a kid finding his way

The MC just needs to find a way of making 2 ruckmen in the same team work.  Other teams play 2 rucks and it works for them

And back in 2021 there was no thought of not playing Jackson & Gawn in the same team

A mini think-tank and some creative ideas is required from the MC.  And Stafford & Yze need to figure out how to get a connection from the mids & forwards.  Earn your money lads!

We need competent forwards, not gun AFL level rucks who cannot play forward. Grundy in, would be a waste, as neither Grundy or Gawn are much chop up forward.

I don’t like Maynard. But he’d be stiff to miss a grand final on that. The rules are predicated on players sacrificing themselves at the expense of their opponents though, so I suspect he may end up missing the grand final game (should the pies make it). The adjudicators make the rules though. They’ll eventually foot a very big bill in the future, as they have a league full of players they encourage to recklessly sacrifice their own health. 

Just now, Gawndy the Great said:

Norf will be silly to do that trade. Make WC sweat and call out Curtin. I think we should instead make a play for NOrf's 2nd pick Pick 2 for 5 and 15. is a fair trade. Norf end up getting Watson with 3, McKercher with 5, Sanders with 15 with  NGA. We can also throw in Tommo to give them KPD stock for 2024 to sweeten the deal. 

We either get Curtin or Reid. 

I agree. Pick 2 is Reid anyway. North know it and won’t trade it. WC won’t trade 1 as they’ll miss Curtain. I think Reid is inevitably off to North.