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Nothing you have said is logical.

You still don't understand what any of us are saying. Listen carefully. No one doubts that humidity will affect performance. What we have pointed out, is the fact that there was no apparent effect on the GC players, therefore it is not an excuse for AFL players (as opposed to GC kids) to blame humidity. If both teams slowed down, then you may be able to attribute the lack of scoring on fatigue/humidity but you can't attribute our performance to it, where the other side are running around as normal.

Well there are two sides to this. Yes, it isnt good enough. But on the other hand, we will manage 2 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss while playing terribly.

Yeah, because the GC kids are so experienced in those conditions right? Your argument is laughable.

You're not getting it. Fatigue/heat/humidity affects both sides!

So what if it is hot and humid? Its just as humid for GC players. A doubt the coaches would be happy with a 7 goal win.

Unacceptable really. Has been happening for years. We should be 80 up by now.

Suspended.

I think many people on this site choose to ignore the work that Dunn does off the ball. He has not been close to our worst.

Pretty sure the club has said Cheeky will not be used on gameday because of his size.

Well apparently the nightclub went through camera footage and confirmed he did not urinate on the bar.

Deserves a shot based on form, but I doubt he will live up to VFL performances

Fantastic. You are even more delusional than others. Even the people in this thread saying we made a mistake have not gone so far as to suggest we have a bad recruiting department. Every club makes recruitment blunders. At the same time, every club has recruitment miracles. But you can not logically state that our last draft was a blunder, given none of them have played a game. So tell me jackaub, what of the other clubs who overlooked Darling? Are you suggesting every club has bad recruiters? Or maybe just the clubs whose draft picks have not yet played? They too must have terrible recruiters because their draft picks have not played and Darling has showed something in his first two games? You are the only one who needs to wake up.

Of course, the OP is a no show after starting such a horrible thread.

I don't think I'm being lenient at all. I would go so far as to suggest it is actually longer. Sure, in hindsight you may find some players that could have been judged very early on (Judd being one example). But equally, there are so many more who are predicted to become star players based on their early careers who never live up to that (McLean, Koschitzke being just two examples).

Are you suggesting, that we got it wrong? That you can conclude from Darling's two games and Cook's zero games, that Darling is the better player and thus our recruiters deserve criticism? Because that is exactly the attitude I was condemning. As for your second remark. Do you know why recruiters get a "free pass" for four or five years? Because you can't make an informed analysis before then!

Well maybe you and all the other experts on here can become AFL recruiters, because apparently none of them have any idea. I'm not saying he is useless or may not turn out a decent player, but I get tired of hindsight forum experts taking pot shots at our recruiters. We could draft Jesus Christ and half of this forum would prefer player X because they may show attribute Y in their first few games.

This thread is laughable. Every club including West Coast overlooked him at least once. That is no fluke. People on this forum have been crying for years about the number of 192cm forwards we have. The club drafts two genuine KPFs and now you want a 191cm forward? Nice one.

Don't think it deserved weeks, but Rioli needs to get this stuff out of his game. May just cost him a Brownlow one day.

I agree. The advantage rule is an absolute shamble. Terrible foresight once again by the AFL and Rules Committee.

Biggest throwaway line ever. Ridiculous claim that is impossible to back up. How would you know whether he inspires? I've seen teams with the supposed "great" coaches put in worse performances.

We've been caught out doing some funny spy tactics to the Hawks over the years. Fair game as far as I'm concerned. Pretty tough to have a closed session these days.

Bailey out? Get a grip, the players are the ones who should hang their heads in shame after that third quarter. Nothing Bailey could do when the game is played in Hawthorn's 50. Maric was average yet again. Would be surprised if he survived.

http://www.footyjumpers.com/ The earliest emblem listed on that site is 1977. Though, I'm not sure if clubs had emblems/logos before that. Does have all the jumpers.

Not sure about others, but I have a heap of trouble with the afl.com.au videos. Been waiting for an official YouTube channel for a while now. 7 videos already posted already, including some good footage of the Prince's visit. http://www.youtube.com/user/DeeTVofficial Apologies if this has already been posted.