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Hopefully the mods show some sense.

The other thread should be re-opened. What the hell is this?

Not sure if you're joking, but I have come to expect announcements every few days and get disappointed if there isn't one! Its going to be a loooooong offseason.

Presidents aren't paid positions. Besides, it doesn't stop other club Presidents having heavy media and commercial interests. But I'm fairly sure Garry has said he is not at all interested in the politics of football - so a board position seems out of the question.

Agreed.

I interpret plain english fine. It's just a shame you haven't used any. I'm done trying to fill in the logic gaps in your reasoning.

If I misinterpreted you, then you need to express yourself more clearly. In reference to the MFC/Member and MFC/Deesbet arrangements, you state that "they are completely separate matters and you cannot apply comments made regarding one to the other"... It is not unreasonable for anyone to take this as denying a link between the two. The same goes for the 'lesser evil' comment I made. Having read the posts again, that inference is valid. We aren't "directly aligning" with a betting agency, they are merely a mid-level sponsor of the club. They provide some money, we provide minor coverage on our website as well as contact information of members who have not opted out. But to be honest, I don't really understand what your issue is. You seem happy with the poker arrangement, but just don't like Deesbet calling? Because if you are concerned about active alignment with gambling or 'non-community minded organisations', then the fact that our poker machine ownership is less visible is irrelevant. We are still aligning with (and in fact owning) non-community minded organisations, and everyone with more than a passing interest in the club knows that. Rubbish. They add a lot to this particular debate, and it should be blatantly obvious to anyone following the debate that it is a very topical political issue at the moment. But it seems you are not really against Poker machines anyway, so this too is irrelevant.

Oh yeah, maybe we chose those ones

Serious? You think OWNING poker machines is the lesser evil? I'm not saying I agree with Deesbet practices, but they are not acting illegally. People are jumping all over clubs (such as MFC) for their "involvement", but if people are serious about the issue, then they need to direct their anger/disappointment to where it belongs - and that is in politics. If MFC were not involved, someone else would be. If someone is to make money from it, then I would prefer it to be the MFC.

No, they are linked. Deesbet would have a contract with MFC allowing them to contact members who have not opted out (the link). Regarding your comments about opting out of "reputable sponsors"... I think that is a touch pedantic. Either you are happy to accept calls from sponsors or you are not. If you really are really that disappointed, you can just hang up on them. Stopping calls from them does not remove our association with them.

I disagree with almost everything you just said. Whether members agree to it is entirely on point. No doubt, Deesbet pay a certain price for the ability to contact members who have no opted out of such contact, and are contractually entitled to do so. You say many members find the sponsorship inappropriate... Well they are welcome to opt out of contact if that is the case. Moral/Political arguments have no place in Deesbet's utilisation of their contractual sponsorship of the MFC.

Yes, I am referring to the membership agreement. Couldn't find the terms and conditions, but the following is a checkable box on the 2012 Membership Application Form: "I do not wish to receive any additional communication from the Club Sponsors in 2012"

Without bothering to look it up, I'm almost certain you would have agreed to such contact.

From the sister of his ex-wife's uncle of course!

I think we should organise some sort of package deal for some former melbourne supporters warming up elsewhere - Judd, Pendlebury, Franklin.

Thought they said what needed to be said. As best as we could expect without having a sook.

MFC could have done nothing more. Embarrassing for Scully if anything - he will have to try and convince people he only decided in last few days.

Thank Christ this is over. Good riddance to him.

Was still in Year 9, but I distinctively remember being woken by my parents to watch the coverage. I remember just watching/listening to news reports in classes the next day.

Haha! Just noticed that. It's fantastic!

I would be sad if Tom decided to stay and we were paying 600k to keep him.

The delay and facility tour (if true) sounds more like a poor attempt at giving his story of "I will decide after the season" more credibility.

Hope he goes. Too expensive to keep him. None of his games this year have been anything to write home about. Just hope he announces sooner rather than later.

Funny stuff. Fair to say this guy isn't a Melbourne supporter. But seriously, what a tool.

Frontloading will only get a club so far, and is only useful in the short term. We have taken advantage of it because we were paying 92.5% of the cap. In the coming years, that flexibility evaporates. As for wage inflation, I completely disagree. I think it is a much bigger problem than many believe, especially where the source is a player who is being paid WELL above their current worth. In addition, what do you think happens if we are to become a successful side in the coming years? I doubt anyone at Geelong was on 600k+ in the last few years, and I could probably name 10 Geelong players better than Scully.