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  1. 11 points
  2. He played much better before Jackson got injured. I reckon they'll be a difficult pair as Jackson gains experience. I was also pleasantly surprised when I saw the distances Weid was covering in games. Something around 11km as I recall so I guess he also tired toward the end of the season.
    10 points
  3. Been covered already in this thread. Brown and North had a falling out over the way North handled him during the death of his unborn baby. Both he and his wife were obviously mentally effected by losing one of their babies and felt the club handled his situation with a lack of empathy. At one point the club wanted him to go to a hub and leave his unwell wife alone. Browns form was poor this year due to not being mentally committed to playing and therefore not being fully physically fit either. Sounds like the couple have now moved past what's happened and Brown is ready to be back committed full-time to an AFL environment. If he gets traded for a 2nd-3rd round pick as touted, he'll be an absolute bargain! Hopefully it's us who lands the bargain and big goal kicking forward we need. Sidenote: North are absolutely cooked as a club from top to bottom. Wouldn't be surprised if they fold, relocate or merge in the coming years. They're currently in the worst state of any club this century, even worse than us at our lowest ebb.
    10 points
  4. I’m hearing Brown and Hogan are in play. My gut feel is Brown is more likely and Jesse off to Sydney.
    9 points
  5. Bring him back. Mick Malthouses best coaching trait was to get the best out of individuals - those that weren’t overly professional but could play footy - the rat pack. I’d rather have Jesse getting into strife three times a year and kicking 50 goals than have ANB be uber professional, win the time trial but be unable to hit a target 25m away. It doesn’t have to bring down the standards of the whole group if we’ll managed and coached. Give the coaches a challenge and bring him back!!
    7 points
  6. Yep it looks like we hit the jackpot with him. He's still only a kid though so we don't want him banged about too much. I reckon CHF is his go. He can go high to get a kick or start things moving if necessary . Limited ruck time.
    6 points
  7. Don't know if this has been stated before, but a friend with Hawthorn connections has said Smith is 99% going to Melbourne
    6 points
  8. I admire the bravery of Jeremy Cameron to choose to go to a team playing off in this weeks grand final. We haven't seen this sort of bravery since Tom Lynch went to Richmond and Franklin went to Sydney.
    6 points
  9. Agreed. So many things go into a decision to change clubs and often $$$ isn't the reason. We could add success, facilities, club strength to the criteria you mention. I just feel that we don't rank highly in the intangibles so have to pay a higher price ($ or picks), which may not be the case. I guess I'm just jealous of big and successful clubs.
    6 points
  10. Egan apparently gone now too.
    5 points
  11. Won't happen with Langdon on our list. Bad history there.
    5 points
  12. His last month of the season really put a dampener on things. 1 goal in 4 games.
    5 points
  13. He's just turned 22, so he's still young for a tall forward/ruck and has some good attributes to build with the right development. We'd get him for a 3rd or 4th round pick. He's worth that cheap punt IMO.
    5 points
  14. Was always going to happen and no shock that we're (the competition) in this situation. It was never going to work for two main reasons. One because we're not the USA. Here not many players will move to poor clubs for a pay day, they'd rather play in a successful team as long as they get a reasonable paycheck. And two in the USA in sports like the NBA the players salaries are known, so anyone and I mean anyone can tell if there's dodgy deals going on. Also means you can tell if your or any club can realistically afford a certain free agent. Fact is the cats out of the bag now and there's no getting rid of free agency. I think the best we could hope for would be options such as 1) All Preliminary Finalists are banned from signing free agents for that off season 2) Any club that signs a free agent has to pay the compensation pick the the club through points from the father/son draft index which obviously effects their picks for the upcoming draft. Or 3) All players salaries are made public. Puts greater emphasis on the clubs and players so the public know when dodgy deals are getting done.
    5 points
  15. Very familiar. If I was a hindsight recruiter we'd won 20 of the last 20 premierships. Neeld had his faults but I'm not sure you can blame him for not picking someone who lasted until pick 58...
    5 points
  16. Very risky, imagine Jesse and Buddy both driving to training... Potential carnage
    5 points
  17. It would spark some reflux for me if we offered that.
    4 points
  18. Do we pull off the Trent Croad special? I doubt it, but it would be great to see him in a Dees jumper again.
    4 points
  19. If we dont get Brown, then Jesse would be a handy key forward. We would want to be buying him cheap. Future 3rd round 2021 pick. Obvious challenges and issues and needs to overcome the mental down times. ? Jesse knows the players ✅ The players know Jesse✅ There is no Go Home Factor anymore ✅
    4 points
  20. Geez, you're a sassy character sometimes, Steve. No need for it really.
    4 points
  21. 4 points
  22. We have never looked like replacing the 40+ goals he kicked in 2018.
    4 points
  23. Yeh we're all hearing. It's all over the papers, internet and radio matey.
    4 points
  24. we won't go near blakely given his relationship with langdon would LOVE hogan but the story seems to be he's headed for the swans?
    4 points
  25. These things need to come into play to even the field. Also, they need to remove the "salary cap floor". At the moment, all clubs must pay a minimum of about 97% of the cap. That means we, and the other poor performing clubs, are overpaying average players and dont actually have free cash to bring in FAs when they become available. If the floor was reduced to 80%, the successful clubs would be at the limit while the unsuccessful clubs will actually be able to lure FAs with cash. Another option would be if the penalty mechanic was tied to contract value. Any club interested can lodge a formal offer for any FA via the AFL. If the FA chooses to ignore the higher offers and take lesser pay, then the club gives up picks/points as part of the process. This way if you overpay you get them for free, but if you are underpaying as part of a "destination club" scenario, then you pay picks.
    4 points
  26. AFLPA only represents the Dangerfields of the League. No surprise he is President. The journeymen barely get a look in other than clubs having to pay 95% of the cap. Rookies have set pay structure so nothing to do there. Look how former players like Robbie Muir are treated to see the focus of the PA. It is just reflecting the fact it is a celebrity based league these days.
    4 points
  27. To be fair, Tynan and Neale could almost pass as twins. Maybe we just read the wrong name out?
    4 points
  28. It is interesting the media is starting to call this out. They are normally pretty silent on these types of things, which fuels it.
    4 points
  29. There was a time when players such as Luke Ball refused to even talk to us in connection with a potential trade. At least we’re no longer in that zone: Vince, Melksham, May, Hibberd, Lever, Lewis, Langdon, Tomlinson. We’re in the conversation these days.
    4 points
  30. He rated him so highly yet he still chose Josh Tynan at Pick 52. Prendergast is a [censored] id iot.
    4 points
  31. And long ago we could have had James Hird at 80+ and Chris Grant at 100+ if I recall correctly. So many recruiters from every club passed over both of them multiple times. But of course had the originator of this post been our recruiting manager all along, we would have the whole bloody AA team.
    4 points
  32. Thanks for thoughtful response. Tbh my comment last week was a bit of a throw away line so I was a bit surprised by the pile on. Thought it would derail the thread if I responded so chose not to. Yes, I'm pessimistic at the moment and hope this trade/draft period and Pert's review change that. iirc Coll 1st round 2018 pick was in the high teens having been GF and 2019 pick expected to be similar. Without looking at 'points' our pick 6 was valued very highly by GCS. But I prefer to no to rehash the various trades. Can I leave it by saying I understand where you are coming from and I'm glad people are optimistic. I desperately want you all to be right.
    4 points
  33. Freo have been burnt bad. He clearly can’t get his head right to play at the level even with family and friends around. are you guys for real that you think we should go for him?!?
    3 points
  34. Spot on. Go through the top 30 goal kickers In the league and check their ratios, expectations of many supporters are unrealistic when it comes to number of goals players should kick per game. Fritsch gets potted by quite a few on Demonland, but few 2nd or 3rd forwards kicked as many goals as he did, and if He improves his goal kicking Will be more than handy for many years.
    3 points
  35. I reckon he plays a similar role to Oscar Allen at WC. 3rd tall and pinch it in the ruck
    3 points
  36. 80% forward, 20% ruck. Can't wait to see him develop further in 2021.
    3 points
  37. Is that true? That's even funnier.
    3 points
  38. Free agency makes a lot of sense from a player perspective. I don't think it's unreasonable that a player should be able to force a move to an employer or their choice after 8/10 years. The problem is that the destination club gets the player for free. I think there should be a draft point penalty in a similar way to how father-son and zone selections work. For example if Jeremy Cameron leaves as a free agent then GWS will get compensation of pick 9. Geelong should have to pay the equivalent value in draft points, in this case 1469 points. This can be taken from their current picks, and even carry over to the next season if they don't have sufficient points, as is the case this year for Fremantle. This also discourages stealing free agents off the weaker clubs as you will have to pay more compensation. This would actually be more beneficial for equalisation.
    3 points
  39. Another way to "penalise" clubs who receive free agents would be to add a loading to the free agent's salary for cap calculation purposes. For example, a free agent's salary might be included in the club's cap at 125% of its true value.
    3 points
  40. We've been described as the front-runner LH - I think that's more than 2+2. And it would make sense if North's list management team are keeping a low profile at present, and thus not feeding the media. On the flip-side, I feel that our link to Phillips may be more of a case of 2+2. Can't recall where that one originated and the language involved. ?
    3 points
  41. This is the key. With the system set up so that only a relatively small number of players make free agency at a time, there's no big batch of players that pop out the back end. In Geelong's case, for example, someone like Esava might take this opportunity to bail but he can't, and other teams can't get him without giving up valuable picks. So he's stuck now behind Hawkins and Cameron, but can't do anything about it for like 4 years
    3 points
  42. the only way that free agency will work is if players have no control over trades so pies should be able to ship treloar to gc17, if they so choose to do so, as long as the monetary value of his contract is honoured the issue is that players can 'block' trades (a la howe to gw$ a few years back) unlike in the nba, nfl, mlb, etc., or any other sporting organisation that has a free agency clause after a set period of times (be it 5, 6, or 7 years either at the one club or across the course of a career)
    3 points
  43. The thing that St Kilda did well was they went and recruited a set, a set they needed to improve their side and fill their needs. They needed outside run, they got Hill, they needed a inside player, they h=got Jones, they need a ruckman, they got Ryder, they needed a defensive key, they got Marshall. We did to a degree with Langdon and Tomlinson, but Tomlinson has not worked... we need to bit the bullet, we need to get a tall Fwd and some more runners. No Mucking around, we just have to do it, get Smith, or Phillips, and get Brown. Huge month coming up for the club.. Smith may want another flag, going to get that at Geelong before us, Phillips is Langdon.. so why not throw everything at him, Brown takes the best defender, teh best tall defender, allows Weid more freedom. Just get him. I understand its all dependant on other clubs wanting Tom and what we get for Pruess and thats fair enough.
    3 points
  44. Just want to mention that the 'less miles on the legs because he didn't play AFL level until 21' is completely irrelevant to how likely it is that he picks up soft tissue injuries or loses speed now that he is 31.
    3 points
  45. According to some on here we are only a couple of players away from success! I very much doubt it myself and I think our list is not good enough particularly the bottom half A few players isn't in my opinion going to do it and we will waste another year before going back to the old drawing board.
    3 points
  46. Whenever I'm watching Geelong, he seems to be playing alright. Doesn't seem to be a ball-magnety and clearly I've missed the matches where he's stunk it up. We need someone to be a big bodied replacement for Preuss. Whilst he wasn't getting regular games, he was able to provide a contest in Gawn's absence. I'd hate to see Jackson having to ruck entire matches at his age/weight. At the moment, Tom McDonald would need to cover Gawn in case of injury, and if he leaves as well, then the need grows greater.
    3 points
  47. Anyone that thinks the MFC is a destination club has their head in the sand.
    3 points
  48. May was under the impression he was going to be a Pie. His manager suggested he have a chat with Goody before he committed which he did almost begrudgingly. At the end of the phone call he told his manager he wants to be a Dee. I know it means nought without a source but that is how it played out.
    3 points
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