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  1. Really interesting topic, spurred me to start an account to add to the discussion. The earlier talk about pressure acts prompted me to have a bit of a deep dive into the stat during our games this year. You'll be surprised to know we won pressure acts overall against the Dogs 271-231, so its certainly something to take with a grain of salt. Not sure how it goes posting big tables, so I've gone with a summary for now but what stuck out to me was that pressure acts wasn't a particularly good indicator in our wins and losses. Sure we often win when we put on good pressure, but looking at this stat alone changes in pressure acts are often small in percentage terms, and the average number of pressure acts from each of our forwards doesn't seem to change markedly at all. On first glance I'd say that game style of the opposition, time in possession, and weather conditions are playing a big part in the number of pressure acts in a game rather than effort alone. PA (for) PA Diff FWD PA (avg) UP diff Marks diff Season avg 253.5 3.5 10.48 -12.83 -7.66 Win avg 257.5 6.66 10.44 2.33 9 Loss avg 249.5 0.33 10.52 -28 -24.33 Given this unexpected outcome I added a few columns to see if anything else stood out across our wins and losses. Uncontested possession differential and marks differential really stood out to me. We've been soundly beaten for uncontested possessions in all our losses this year. It seems to agree with what we see on TV. The physical pressure is ok at the contest, but as other have mentioned we're off in our spread and ability to guard the space. So where to from here? I think we've seen this season the effects of changing the number of talls, mediums and smalls in our forward mix, but there is an element of continuity missing too. When looking at forward pressure acts I first had to look at who I thought was playing forward in each game....by my count we've run 15 through there this year, excluding resting mids like Petracca. That's surely not conducive to executing our zone in the forward half.
    9 points
  2. There are just morons and dickhe-ds out there and it is impossible to get them all to act like human beings. Now some more morons want to march in Melbourne because they think the Virus is a scam. I wonder I how the relatives of the people who have died or are very sick from the virus feel. On top of it all they will risk infecting more people if they march. I would get the water hoses out and then throw them in jail wet.
    6 points
  3. Watching Mitch Wallis tear us apart on the weekend, I couldn't help but think Harmes was capable of something similar. He is far more suited to a forward role and should be rotated through the middle when opposition mids get on top of us (i.e. Bontempelli). Trent Rivers should be in the role Harmes is playing at the moment.
    5 points
  4. Well well. Cats and Port players let off by the Tribunal for the very same action as ANB, with only one difference, the victim wasn’t concussed. If the AFL represented society, you could get off for attempting to shoot someone if you missed, but be found guilty of assault, if you slipped in the street and fell on someone, causing them to fall over and cut their hand in a minor injury. We have now had 2 blokes ( ANB and Jack Trengove)done for 4 weeks in sling tackles where other blokes for the same action get off. If I wasn’t a 68 year old grandfather and lawyer, I would simply say to the AFL, GAGF. To be honest I think Josh Mahoney should come out and slam the AFL for the total hypocrisy and corrupt way in which it has dealt with ANB and bugger the consequences. Stand up for our player and club, this is an unmitigated disgrace.
    4 points
  5. These are faceless ghosts hiding behind fake profiles. The best approach is to delete and move on. Bringing to attention every online troll is pointless. It may actually make matters worse. It is a futile exercise even reporting on this because you won't have anyone vocally speak from their own profile in favour of the comments. You're just preaching to the converted. It just seems silly to say "HEY EVERYONE THIS FAKE PROFILE SAID SOMETHING RACIST. RACISM IS NOT OK" every time some Russian bot profile posts something nasty. My approach would be: 1. Enhanced investment in online moderation. Immediately ban/report/delete online trolls and their comments. Zero exceptions. Where possible, if account/personal identification is available, refer to appropriate authorities. 2. All personal player social media accounts are private. Their followers are cross-checked and anyone that isn't a close friend/relative/colleague is purged. 3. Separate "work" social profiles are created for the sole purpose of promotion, branding and messaging. Additionally, establish a dialogue with Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Lead from the profile to help develop and improve moderation mechanisms.
    4 points
  6. Hi BBP. I have no idea who Tom Elliott is but my understanding of the situation is that Victoria, unlike other states can only activate any of the measures we're currently seeing under a state of emergency for a maximum of six months only. That period is due to end soon. Extending the option for a further 12 months would allow them to be activated again at short notice (if required) without a lengthy debate taking place in parliament to change legislation. It doesn't in itself extend level 4 restrictions beyond 13 September or into the 2021 football season. It's a preemptive measure should there be a need to close things down again quickly at some point in the next year or so.
    4 points
  7. I would love to see Bedford this week ?
    4 points
  8. TMacs been out of form for the best part of two years now. Its just not good enough and we can’t afford to keep gifting him games until he is absolutely banging down the door with consecutive great performances in the twos. We have to try guys like M. Brown and Joel Smith in his position until Jackson is ready to return.
    4 points
  9. I am hating watching every game on TV. You just miss so, so much. And one thing is the work rate of players who don't have the ball. Teams switch to the 'fat side all the time. It is usually the most reliable and relatively risk free way to break a zone. Sometimes team give their opposition that option, but deep. And cover and force rhe bsll to be switched back. But more often than not the dees try to not even give the switch option and force a kick down the line But it is not tbe first switch kick that is the problem, it is the next disposal, be that a kick or handball. If that disposal can be immediate and under little or no pressure you get what happens to us in the third. Easy transition from the back half to their inside 50. So even though it looks routine it is just so critical that a player gets accross hard when the ball is switched to man rhe mark and hold up the next disposal. And if your team is working hard enough and prepared to gut run and sprint the time the ball is in the air on a 40-50 metre kick gives them time to cover. This is where langdon has been so important for us. Live you can see who is working hard and who has decided not to sprint and cover. On tv you are guessing. But if we were collectively working hard enough in that third quarter there us no way tbey transition rhe ball so ridiculously easily. And it has to be said the most likely culprits not covering off in thst game are the forwards as rhey are the first line of defence stopping easy transition.
    4 points
  10. Are you providing Youtube highlights of Dermie and Matthews to argue that Muir's life of violence, mental illness and abuse was purely self-inflicted and in no way linked to underlying racial disadvantage and discrimination? Everyone's responsible for their own actions, sure. No one's said otherwise. But facts are that if Muir was born white, he would have copped far less abuse, been more likely to succeed in the AFL and less likely to spiral out of control off-field (statistically speaking). That's troubling.
    4 points
  11. I hope Spargs doesn't get the scapegoat drop this weekend. In my mind our issues from the weekend were a result of midfield pressure rather than forward. Granted he didn't have a great game, but even the best small forwards in the game have shockers from time to time. It's a hard position to play and I want to see Goodwin stick with Pickett and Spargs as pressure smalls to build some cohesion. Personally I want a third in there and think Bedford is the guy at the moment. We need more foot speed so if we have to sacrifice a Hannan or Fritsch so be it.
    4 points
  12. @Elegt the Reactionary. Spargo fits into our system nicely when everyone is playing their role. He's a link player who gets involved in a lot of our scores when we're up and about.
    4 points
  13. Here we go...... Dees win and it’s all the players Dees lose and it’s Goodys fault the players gave no effort on Saturday, nothing to do with Goody
    4 points
  14. I agree but I'm actually referring to the club exclusively. No government intervention needed. There is a legal framework there. Additionally there is precedent where organisations can be held liable for comments on their pages. Clubs (and organisations in general) need to work much harder. That they're publicising it every time they see a nasty comment actually says to me that they think it's a once-every-now-and-then issue that can be addressed with a simple press release, when it's actually not that simple.
    3 points
  15. Only problem with this, and no, I'm not a Libertarian, is you only need a Peter Dutton in charge of this stuff and the laws become very easy to warp.
    3 points
  16. Absolute filth. The only reason people post this rubbish is because they are so devoid of success or fulfillment in their own lives the only way they can feel any sense of superiority is by denigrating others by their physical characteristics. Kozzy is just a kid and shouldn't have to put up with this crap but no doubt it's not the first time he's had to de with it.
    3 points
  17. Bedford putting pressure on for one of those spots is very healthy imv. Don't believe we need or should play all three for the sake of a medium. May the best two small forwards keep playing in blocks of 3 to 4 matches. They stay if they can perform to a minimum level. If they don't or one doesn't during that block then Bedford comes in. Rinse repeat till we find out who can really bring it and wants it. What i would do though is bring Harmes off HB to play more mid field time in a run with this week to cover Steele. Effectively replacing Sparrow. Rivers comes in to take over Harmes' role at HB. Viney plays more time forward. Between Viney, Harmes, Tracc, Clarry and AVB, we should be able to cover one of the medium forward roles of either Fritta or Melk. To me this week that's Fritta. Again some pressure needed. Bit of a rocket to let them know their place isn't as secure as they may think and to work on some weaknesses, particularly the pressure side. Also sends Melk a bit of a subtle signal as well that he needs to up the ante pressure wise inside 50.
    3 points
  18. "Relatively slowly" means that the ball hangs in the air for a period of time, which allows defenders to cover that space. It means that just because you're in space it doesn't automatically mean that the ball has enough time to get to that open player before a defender can cover them. Unlike a short handball, which can get to a team mate before the defender has time to react. The time the ball hangs in the air is the reason why a zone defence works, because you don't need a defender playing on every forward, you just need a defender close enough that they can cover the kick by the time it reaches them. Just because it's the fastest way to move the ball forwards doesn't mean that it's fast.
    3 points
  19. Luke Dahlhaus just got a week for the identical tackle that ANB got 4 weeks for, with one exception, the victim wasn’t concussed. That is pathetic, in that penalty is now decided not by intent, or legality of action, but on any injury that occurs. Punch a bloke in the face, which is an illegal act, but if victim not injured, result is a fine or 1 week. This is ridiculous. AFL now more concerned with staging.
    3 points
  20. No way Hibberd is being dropped IMO... had a really good 4 weeks.. bit down on the weekend.. not on his own there.
    3 points
  21. This is what I think is most important. We have a game plan that relies of the contest and defence. We have a big, brutal defence and a big, brutal midfield. They thrive on the contest and drive the ball forward. We have a silky, attacking forward line that is good at turning chances into goals .... but they're mismatched with the rest of our side. We have two tall forwards (Weid and TMac), three mediums (Fritsch, Hannan and Melksham) and two smalls (Kossie and Spargo) rotating through over the course of a game. This works just fine against teams where we can defend easily with our midfield/defenders (like we have the last 3 weeks) because these players are very good at turning this dominance into goals. But when you play these 7 forwards then you are effectively playing with 4 non-tackling forwards (Weid, TMac, Fritsch and Melksham) and our ability to slow down the opposition's attacks is really compromised. We currently have a bifurcated team: forwards and everyone else. We win games when we can make the game a slog, because we have a real advantage in the hard, contested football. We don't win shootouts, and haven't for a while because we have drafted and selected a team of big, brawling bruisers. This highest score we've conceded in a win this year was 63 against Gold Coast. In our others wins we conceded only 53, 48, 37, 35 and 44. Our losses in low scoring contests (against Brisbane and Geelong) were by 4 points and 3 points. So we should be trying to make each contests a contested slog, because we are well placed for that but we have selected a forward line for a free flowing, high scoring match. It's trying to have your cake and eat it too rather than doubling down on your core strengths and bludgeoning your opponent into submission week in and week out by selecting a fast, high pressure forward line that can play the same high pressure game as the rest of our team. That might mean that we have to leave some of our better players out of the side and bring in some clearly less talented players to play more defensive roles in order to help our team play more cohesively.
    3 points
  22. 2 points
  23. Good to post this and not ignore it. poor Koz, just a kid. Unfortunately ignorant hateful people exist but hopefully the numbers get smaller over time
    2 points
  24. I hate mankind. #standwithkozzy
    2 points
  25. Imagine what will happen when they roll out the vaccine...
    2 points
  26. If I had a crystal ball and could see that West Coast won't make the GF I'd be more than happy to take their $50 million.
    2 points
  27. Ummmm.... no. That makes absolutely zero sense.
    2 points
  28. Spargo is playing the role that Neal-Bullen played in 2018 - looks great getting getting on the end of a few cheap handpasses when the team wins by 10 goals, does sweet FA when the ball doesn't fall in his lap. We'll never be a decent side with players who can't win their own football consistently and can't apply a reasonable level of defensive effort. At the moment that list includes Spargo, Melksham, Hannan, PIckett and Fritsch.
    2 points
  29. It is certainly difficult to dissect but looking at the vision again Clarry was in the clear if (a) the handball gets to him or (b) the ball doesn’t bounce away from him. Clarry looks to be the runner in this stoppage where the dogs players push up on trac who tries to give the releasing handball. Unfortunately the hand ball misses, the ball bounces away towards Libba, Clarry almost gets hands on it but it’s toe poked away by Bont. could have easily gone the other way but that’s footy....
    2 points
  30. I beg to differ, Spargo getting an AFL game says plenty about where we are! Before everyone says , yeah but he kicked 3 the week before. Anyone can have a day out when everything goes well. !
    2 points
  31. Some excellent posts. We are a product of our times. We accept now that this country and all others have accepted, tolerated and reinforced racism. We accept that governments, institutions and individuals all had a popular and prevailing view of indigenous populations, which went to genetics, appearance and customs. Differences in values and behaviours all formed part of our beliefs. With the benefit of time, education and understanding , the majority of us accept that our beliefs of yesteryear were sadly wrong, and lead to prejudice, intolerance and incorrect government policies. In many cases, White Australia thought it was doing the right thing when clearly this was not the case. Regarding footy, racial stereotypes persisted for a long time. Going walkabout was the term commonly used to describe indigenous players. Not tough enough was another. Now we recognise that all clubs seek to recruit talented indigenous players because of their X factor. The ability to see the game differently, to instinctively know where the ball is going and to create something special. What Demon supporter can forget the magic of Jeff Farmer. He was truly a wizard. At the same time, we can view things differently and not be seen as a racist. The Adam Goodes story is a case in point. Sure the ignorant and stupid minority used racist taunts and descriptions. Perhaps some booed him because of the colour of his skin. But many booed him simply because of the way he played. They would have booed him whether he was white or black. Footy spectators have always responded negatively to those traits that are inconsistent with the prevailing view of the way footy should be played. Show boating, staging, appealing to the umpire, the kick to me thing. The show pony has always attracted the ire of the crowd. Think of the way that opposition supporters booed Buckley when he played. Think of his nick name. Fig jam. Perhaps if he was black many would regard it as a racist view or have racist undertones. Think of the way opposition supporters abused Big Carl or Rodney Grinter. They were regarded as dirty players and at times played not only outside the rules but outside the values and moral code regarding the way the game should be played. In the case of Robbie Muir, he played in a similar vein to many others. However, there are rules and we expect transgressors to be punished for doing the wrong thing. So we need understanding and balance. Understanding the childhood influences, the prejudice and an appreciation that difference is sometimes not tolerated by the mainstream. But for the game to function we need rules and a moral compass that forms part of the way we view the game and how it should be played. Was Muir abused and taunted because of the colour of his skin or the way he played the game. For some it was one or the other or a combination of both. But we need understanding and a sense of balance in forming our views and opinions. Some times things can be seen in black and white terms ( yes, including our view of Collingwood!) but most of the time we need to explore and understand all the shades of grey. The uncertainties are what life is all about.
    2 points
  32. I love how people struggle with basic comprehension so make up whatever insane theory they want. Nobody, and I mean nobody has ever once come out and said we will be in forced lockdown for another 12 months. We will have to operate under certain Covid safe guidelines such as social distancing, probably mask wearing and businesses will have to follow a Covid safe set of instructions to protect staff and customers for the next 12 months, or until a vaccine is widely administered. That is NOT the same as being in lockdown.
    2 points
  33. It's a coaches role to best position each and every player for game day, if the/a player doesn't bring that, then it's the coaches role to mediate and draw a conclusion as to why. A coach CAN'T actually provide the effort that the players need to bring. Petracca's effort was abysmal, many times he was found just watching the ball and not chasing what so ever, especially when the game was still on the line. Goody can't change that, in the moment, on the day. All he can do is try and eliminate it going forward and stop it from becoming a habit.
    2 points
  34. Firstly, I think pressure acts are a better indicator. You can see these on the AFL site but they're much more difficult to track because the AFL site is awful. Usually they show that Weid and Fritsch are the worst, Kozzie easily the best and everyone else in between (although closer to the bottom). I think that keeping our forward deeper is important to use our mediums properly. Mediums need space to beat their opponents, generally, whilst talls and smalls are less disadvantaged by congestion. However it does mean that we are in less of a position to defend when the ball is turned over. It requires that the midfield push up to our forward line to seal off the exits and compress the field, and I think the midfield failure to do this was probably the main cause of our poor 3rd quarter last week.
    2 points
  35. ...and there lies the problem. If you can't see it, I can't help you.
    2 points
  36. Shuffling around our bottom six players isn’t going to achieve much, I hope Spargo gets another game. Losses like we had on the weekend are the coaches and leaders.
    2 points
  37. Surgery Funds Raised "A GoFundMe page was created for Muir to help try and reach the $28,000 mark required for Muir’s surgery. Incredibly, that figure was reached in under five hours, with more than $100,000 has been raised". Great to see people rally and support.
    2 points
  38. This week I have added # of days between games shown as (x) for each game. I've also added (F) for flights for the 7th and 8th spots contenders. Interesting that in many cases a bye isn't really a bye. The break for a bye ranges from 7 days to 12 days. Final 8 Contenders: 7th Collingwood: Almost there 8th Bulldogs: can still miss the 8 as they have a tough run home. They are on 7 wins and need to win at least two of their last 4 to be safe; two of which are vs Cats and Eagles. They will fancy themselves vs Hawks and Freo. 9th Demons, 10th Blues and 11th Giants sit outside the 8, all on six wins with 5 games yet to play: We have a good %'age altho that can be lost quite quickly as the loss of 6% at the weekend showed. I don't see any clear %'age boosting games for us whereas the Blues and Giants play the Crows. After this week all 3 teams have two 5 day breaks and one 4 day break The travel gods are really favouring Carlton (and Collingwood) as they have no flights in their run to round 17, whereas we fly each week. Freo play Bulldogs, Dees and Giants. They are on a roll, have conceded miserly scores so could easily determine who makes it.
    2 points
  39. I didn't write the article mate, but if you take a breath and read it again you'll see it doesn't say that Jones being out made it compromised, it just says the lineup featuring a lot of tall and mid sized forwards left a lot of the pressure on the shoulders of Spargo and Pickett. If you read my post you'll see the point I was making was about having a smaller, quicker forward line with less mid sized forwards.
    2 points
  40. And, let's be honest, he wasn't alone in having little influence on the weekend. Pickett had five tackles but didn't have real impact, while Melksham and Hannan didn't really set the world alight either. Deserves at least a few more weeks in the senior side.
    2 points
  41. My bet is that Port and Williamstown will leave the comp and enter another league. Coburg and Franskston... who knows. The VFL experience will be the poorer for the absence of these traditional clubs and grounds.
    2 points
  42. Yes, reading that reaffirmed every reason that I intensely hate those pond scum!
    2 points
  43. To be honest, I couldn't care less who plays, as long as they give 100% effort, all game and we take our chances and use the ball reasonably well. I didn't ask for perfect ball use, as we are incapable of even very good use.
    2 points
  44. Jeepers. Your partner cares what happens with the second tier comp in the AFL? Or was she just going 'yes, Action Jackson, darling, I'm listening'. My wife doesn't even care when her Hawks are playing. She knows more about Demonland internal politics than football. And that's the way I like it. Very easy to convince her who our son in the womb should support.
    2 points
  45. Such a shallow analysis. Try and put yourself in his shoes. If you'd been beaten by your father, if you'd suffered racism in your day-to-day life, if you were regularly abused for trying to go about your job... how would you react? I don't think you could know without experiencing it.
    2 points
  46. Yes indeed it is a sad story. Uneducated, immoral, scum of the earth human beings that participated in his abuse. Worryingly they still exist in large numbers. But the tide is turning, albeit somewhat slowly. I'm a school teacher. This article should be on the Primary School reading curriculum. I will ensure children in Year 6 at my school read this and share their opinions. You cannot believe how valuable such an activity can be in shaping opinions in young children. When I went through primary school as a student there was absolutely zero when it came to highlighting indigenous racism. Not a damn thing. The world is changing because as teachers we present the facts and realities to children now. We have to. We can't just bullshid our way through because they can just go home and google information themselves. We need to be honest and I find teaching a much richer experience when young children are given the opportunity to absorb facts and share their thoughts. They are not stupid at all, and full of empathy for the wronged and as I said, the conversations they wont forget. It will shape their views. It must. So if you have the courage ask your young child or grandchild to ask his teacher if he can have a 'show and tell' in the form of reading out this article to his classmates. Just so they hear it. Whatever way you butter your bread we have been historically and horribly racist as a nation. It will only improve with the younger generation, as it already is, becoming adults, and it will only end when the racists of old die. Old racists like the 70+ year old at the pub many months ago when I went to watch the Wilder/Fury 2 heavyweight title fight. I've been a Fury fan for a long time. Since well before he became famous. I've also been a big fan of Wilder. But it was Fury who I wanted to win because he needs to be recognised as one of the greatest heavyweight boxers there ever has been. The old bloke sidles up next to me, pint in hand, "so who you going for mate?" he asks, "Fury" I responded, waiting for it. "Yeah [censored] the big black bastard" he said "It's nothing to do with skin colour mate, they're both champions, I just happen to be a huge admirer of Fury's boxing" I stood up and wandered to another screen, and this old fart just stood there, sipped from his beer, seemingly unable to comprehend that I didn't share his pointless racist attitude. This was in my hometown, my hometown pub, this bloke probably knew my father when dad was alive, and I would've no doubt known the children of this blokes mates most likely. This was the type of guy who pointlessly abused Robbie Muir for simply the colour of his skin.
    2 points
  47. the thing is, I think, people are all a mixture of things - and we get the idea of "the dominant story", when that's only part of it. The Robert Muir story in the paper the other day put up some of the "alternative stories" about him. A lot of us only knew the "mad dog" story, which Northey rightly (wisely) called out early on. You see things confirming the dominant story, and it becomes the person's identity. Those in a position to influence opinion need to be making sure dominant stories don't lock people into deep pigeonholes with no way out. Coaches can strengthen players by drawing out their alternative stories - and actively opposing negative dominant stories; at the same time, they won't help anyone by trying to force onto a player an alternative story that is not part of that player's make-up. St Kilda should have seen the negative dominant story of their new guy, and realised how essential it was going to be to counteract that - his talent was surely enough to have created a whole new dominant story. Jurrah was characterised as the Warlpiri Warrior, and the Jurrahcane - not helpful, with hindsight. His particular skillset could have been made the main story, and should have been. Harping on about defensive skills when he was clearly the most electrifying offensive force in the competition - it was denying his identity, and pushing away what was the dominant story that brought him to Melbourne. Please let us value Harley Bennell for who he really is. And all of us refuse these racist stereotyping stories that reduce players to categorised clones. Not everyone is good at adopting such a required dominant story. Football teams try to make the most of their players, even though there can be a mixture of parts to the player. In among the various stories of each individual, there can be stories that are valid and troubling, and needing intelligent care. Makes you realise what a wonderful person Robbie Flower was - brilliantly skilled, modest (claimed he was overpaid for what he did!) and always with a smile and time for anyone, unshakable optimist, team-oriented, loyal forever... Hard to think of a negative story. But Robbie Muir shared some of those attributes. People have a mixture of parts, and good management recognises this and brings out the best. Roos was skilled there. "Sink or swim" is no management strategy - and nor is "you made your bed - you'll have to lie in it." Good management will draw the person into their better bits - they are equally as true - and we unfortunately don't always get to choose which bit of us becomes the dominant story. Community has a responsibility. Sorry, too long.
    2 points
  48. The title is appropriate - the story football doesn't want to hear. Because we don't witness it, because we don't experience it, we can pretend it didn't happen and it doesn't still happen. We should stop denying someone's experience of life and what traumas they have endured. Jack Hamilton: "It has never been the subject of report or complaint. You're saying it happens....I have no evidence of it." Wow, the VFL must have had a huge lump in their carpet with all the stuff they didn't want to know about swept under it. What a terrible indictment on society for this young man to be failed at every turn. Every aspect of his story was disturbing, but the worst that stayed in my guts were; The suspension of two years for a 'trip' when he was 16, which appeared to be the result of a campaign to set him up for the greater charge of a 'vicious kick' with suspect 'witnesses'. The abuse he received from his father, with a kick twisting his bowel when he was a child, causing him ongoing health problems which embarrassed him throughout his career, never being treated. He never ate breakfast or lunch before a game because of his condition. How did he survive, and still manage to play well? The shocking treatment from his own team mates as a young recruit. And they never stuck up for him. The lack of official intervention when the crowd were being abusive, including throwing objects at Muir. The Footy Show set up which sent him into a downward spiral. All for a cheap laugh. Eddie et al should hang their heads in shame. Disgrace. The failure of anyone at the football clubs to look after his mental well being. Didn't anyone think to ask themselves, does this kid need guidance and help. Don't forget, he was only a young man at the time. All and all a shameful part of football history. The next time someone like Heritier Lumumba speaks up about his experience we should not be so quick to dismiss him as some sort troublemaker and wish he would be quiet, otherwise we will be reading about these stories again and again. We will never learn. As witnessed by the latest attacks on players on social media. Disappointing.
    2 points
  49. Watching again on 'First Crack' (I know I want to vomit at Tom but no 360) Club has missed a step in it's handling of this, the guilty plea was a mistake, 4 weeks is 'Dog Act' territory and it was clearly not. 1. Hamill was clearly still trying to kick when he could have turned his body to protect himself, he was careless to his own safety, this to me means ANB could argue for a reduction. 2. Hamill trying to kick is what upset his balance and caused his head to go to ground, i.e. ANB was not trying to put him head first into the turf, this makes it more of an accident. 3. Bloody oath the AFL will roll over for a name player doing the same thing. Lastly all the peeps potting ANB because he is not a gun player on our list; saying don't bother/doesn't matter, I seriously wonder if you know what team means? Looking after the team, makes a team strong, anything else is fake and BS. Get behind our man.
    2 points
  50. We play into the "small club" mindset by not challenging these decisions. As above we didn't even challenge the Moloney one!
    2 points
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