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In these bleak times, we can still take enjoyment from Collingwood losing a match they should have won.

Guys, come on. This season is bad enough already without posters pretending to want to fight each other over a difference of opinion. Just put each other on ignore.

[censored] yeah Freo!

Will Buckley buckle under pressure and admit the buck stops with him for bucking the protocols? Buckley’s I’d say. Anyway it will cost him big bucks.

Along with the Tommy Mac selection we can say it was one of the poor selection moves. His impact was negative, Boak took him to the cleaners. ...If anyone needed to step up in the middle it was Angus but yet again he was left on the outer. We're often beaten at the selection table before we hit the ground... It was very definitely a mistake...

Has everyone forgotten we had a major football department review and overhaul a mere 9 months ago? We chose to have the coaches we have. Or we couldn't get who we wanted so had to settle for second, third best. Lots of names being thrown around. Looks like wishful thinking. I mean why would the names being mentioned want to come to the mfc. Re Richardson. I was critical of his appointment and I've had a really good look at his CV. I see nothing that says he is a good coach or has been part of a successful club. He leaves the Saints and they now sit 3rd on the ladder. I have yet to see a positive impact of his recruitment to mfc. I hope someone can shed some light on why we hired him.

Complrtely agree. A bizarre selection. I thought we'd play him back, but he said prior to the match he'd play midfield and a bit forward. If he was manning Boak in the middle did he follow Boak to half back as well? We've already got Gus and Harmes being played out of position because we can't fit them in the midfield and we bring in yet another mid? Did they want to use Harmes on Gray and Gus on a wing, therefore neither could play on Boak? I just don't understand the thinking. Can anyone constructively illuminate me on this?

Sheeds would have shaken the whole Club. which is exactly what we needed. We have had numerous opportunities over the years, but appointing First Time Coaches is easier, and they behave themselves

Good stuff Gorgo....2 seconds ! Keep em coming. Consider yourself selected for the upcoming spring carnival... ...not long now. Stay safe gang.

Wow. That is a disgrace!!

I was told this by an ex assistant coach at the Dees back in 2015 when we bumped into him while we were having beers and a BBQ just before new years eve in Corowa. He comes up every year during the summer period by the Murray with his family. Melbourne sought out Ross Lyon, Michael Malthouse and also Alistair Clarkson at the time. The theme was to go for an experienced coach as the board felt the players needed a fair shake up by a good hard taskmaster. When they spoke to Ross Lyon he declined as he had already told the club that he had committed to the saints. Garry Lyon and Ross Lyon shared the same manager in Craig Kelly, and Kelly even told Lyon that Ross had verbally committed to the saints but just hadn't signed as of yet. Ross then behind everyone's back has a secret meeting with the dockers and the rest is history. Even his manager Craig Kelly was caught completely off guard. Melbourne wanted him, but Ross had bigger things going on. Clarkson was offered a huge package deal. Garry Lyon and to a degree Stynes really pushed Clarkson hard, but he was contracted at the time and knew that a dynasty was only around the corner. Lyon then spoke to Malthouse. Mick had already confirmed that he was taking time off coaching (this was in 2011 after he finished up at the pies) and instead was looking at going into the media. It was there that Malthouse Apparently gave a glowing and raving endorsement about one of his young and up and coming assistant coaches in Mark Neeld. After the Dees missed out on their targeted experience men, they then changed their direction and interviewed the likes of Brendan McCartney, Alan Richardson and Mark Neeld. The rest is history as they say. All I will say is Garry Lyon tried what every melbourne supporter wanted at the time and that was go for the experienced coach we needed. Unfortunately we just ran out of options it seems. I dont blame Garry for the Neeld [censored] up.

Yeah umm no. The last time he was involved seriously with the club, he brought Mark Neeld in. Garry is a passionate MFC supporter, but he should be nothing more or nothing less.

I really don't understand why people keep saying "Tomlinson was never a winger". Yes he has played a number of positions throughout his career, but his last two years he played on the wing for over of the strongest teams in the comp (the grand finalist). Was he the best wing in the comp? No but he was posting the position capably in one of the better teams, was available and filled our biggest weakness. He'll get back in the team and will pay a few more games. We do need some more silk outside though still. Probably off the HBF and HFF, or the wing of course, but the wing is hard because you need silk, endurance and speed.

Yep. The Brisbane game and Geelong is another that's bitten us right in the [censored].

True. Maybe our picks just don’t develop because of the rotten culture they are put in?

Am I alone in being puzzled about Tom’s role on Thursday? Don’t misunderstand me, he tried hard and was not too bad. But he was given the role of running with Boak. This meant that when Boak was in the middle for centre bounces, Sparrow was there too. problem was that this meant that one of our gun midfielders was not there. Surely, in Clarry, Viney, Trac and Brayshaw we have an excellent midfield. I would have told Sparrow to pick up Boak outside the centre bounces. I might be wrong but I thought Tracc was in there less than normal

After the two games in Adelaide we could commandeer The Ghan up to Alice and play Collingwood, Fremantle and Essendon. The first two can fly in from Perth together and the Bombers can get the same train down from Darwin. If Gold Coast are also penciled in to play in the top end against someone they could get the same train down and play Collingwood. Essendon and the Pies could each be based at one of the drug and alcohol free communities in the area to keep them out of trouble.

DZ.... what a win by the ‘Hawks, very interesting series coming up against the 2 headed monster. The play ins are not of that much interest but getting going early will be a good sign for the Avs. I think Vegas with the addition of Lehner will tip them over the top, they look really good and adding a guy of that quality in net, wow.

Which was conducted by Josh Mahoney.. Go figure hey.

The blow torch needs to go on Mahoney also he’s brought in players who all can’t kick well & hit targets. Look at the top sides kicking efficiency vs us

I know the AFL have had a really difficult year and fixturing is almost a week to week proposition, but this is really disappointing for NT Dees fans if true. The Dees have had very few actual ‘home’ games this year, playing just one at the MCG I believe. It would have been great to have a block of games in the Territory, but other clubs seem to have been given preference. Given all the effort and energy the Dees put in up here, I feel we should have been first in line to play the NT game. Hopefully this proves possible at some stage.

Really feel for you all back in Victoria at this time, when the team performs like that. At least I have my boys both playing juniors on Sundays and we can go and watch Ammos games every Saturday.

FFS he was asked for advice, that may have been rubbish but the buck stops with the decision makers at the club at the time. Schwab, the Board and Jimmy have to wear those decisions. To me when looking for the root cause for that disastrous period I always end up looking at Schwab, Connelly to some extent and unfortunately Jimmy who didn’t realise Schwab was a toxic influence on recruiting and football operations.

He’s stable and doing a lot better. Thank you.

Suggest you crack at Bartlett about his 'wingeing'. Tell him to stop watching and that he is not the type of fan you want in the MFC.

I think some people are confusing performance of the team and a person's personal vlife, which Ithink is not becoming of a logical discussion of our Football Club. The media do not run MFC and are renowned at making mountains out of molehills. We are in danger of cintinuing the vindictiveness . Before I get shot at,there is nothing wrong with players liking a coach and success is not branded on fear. Apparently he is a very good person to work with, so please cut out the personal "sniping "

This is a [censored] poor post. Criticism for his coaching is warranted. Getting personal like this is weak as p iss.

You are getting personal now, no need for it.

If so, he joins a group that includes Daniher and Paul Roos of coaches who regularly saw the players serve up soft efforts in weeks where it looked like they just couldn't be bothered. As I said to one of Goodwins friends not long after he took the job...he doesn't know what he's getting himself into. At MFC, a coach can't even rely on the players showing personal pride in their intensity and effort levels consistently. F#$ked if i know how you can develop and implement a gameplan when blokes squib it as regularly as ours do.

Why didnt you post this after the hawks game? I disagree with about 80% of your commentary

Hate to be in the trenches with a lot of you

I’d like, in order: 1. A vaccine 2. Consistent, competitive effort from the MFC 3. Essendon to lose the next 8

Last night was appalling but if you're writing the rest of the season off now, aren't you just "accepting mediocrity"? We're 3-5. It's not exactly a launching pad for finals, but the 5 losses are to 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th. In a season where we play everyone once, we have plenty of games to come against sides not currently in the 8 with few to come against sides that are consistently good (indeed, St Kilda is the highest-ranked side left on our fixture). That doesn't mean wins will come automatically and if we play like we did last night, we'll be 3-7. But if we get back the run and aggression we showed in Rounds 6-8, we can and should beat both Adelaide and North and level out at 5-5. From there, a 4-3 record may be enough to make finals.

Get more games into Jackson Pickett sparrow and rivers. Get Harley right Develop a plan b c d e etc Spend less time on hell and back videos and more time on basic skills

Where is the coaching and development? Oliver came in with heaps of promise but hasn't improved and had gone backwards if anything. Brayshaw has not improved since coming to the club. Weideman hasn't improved other than natural development that comes with a more mature body. TMac never developed beyond the raw athleticism he had before his foot injury. Salem showed promise early and has not improved, no development since his first game against the Swans. Petracca and Gawn are the only two players on our list who can honestly say they've taken their game to another level in the last 5 years. Maybe Viney as well. Jones developed earlier on in his career. The evidence suggests that unless the players have the inner drive or footy IQ to develop off their own bat the club will not help them get there. It's an utter indictment on the culture of the club.

Unfortunately it's still up there dazzle - it's in the replies section. Absolutely pathetic, and anyone who's on Twitter should make their feelings known.

I assumed he would play half forward or half back, but to get lots of centre bounces was an odd decision. As the OP mentioned, he wasn’t bad, but not sure he improves the team at all playing in the guts.

Yeah it could be the case @Pennant St Dee. It's obvious though that Ross was doing all this without even his own management knowing. Another obvious thing was that Ross Lyon was definitely on the list of high priority. Makes you wonder if we had snagged one of Clarkson or Lyon at the time what our club would look like know. So many what ifs.

My mail Dazzle is Garry never actually spoke to Ross he did all the talking with Ned Kelly who was trying to negotiate an extension with St Kilda. Ned was blindsided by Ross and I believe Garry's approach to Ned was just before Lyon had started seriously talking to Freo

Eagles are going to roll the Cats which is great, but this last quarter has been fantastic. Both clubs going hard at it. It's been great to watch. Kennedy is really turning back the clock here. Has kicked three in the last to get them over the line.

Good, i saw it after the game thought it was beyond ordinary. glad its been deleted.

It was a disgraceful tweet. Thankfully they took it down after his brother gave them a serve.

It's almost as if they're better suited to waving pom poms than making public comments.

yep really angry about it, you dont see other clubs cheersquads smashing a past captain, Team of the Century, B&F winner publicly. I cant imagine the club would like that.. Irony i'd imagine is lots in the cheersquad sat in the stands and cheered Garry plenty of times..

Just watching Geelong and WC go at it makes me realise how far behind we are as a football team.This is football,not the crap we dish up with our basketball/wrestlemania style of play.

A free kick was brought back because a Geelong player blocked the Eagles player on the mark that allowed the Cats kicker to run around the mark. Hasn’t Hawthorn been doing just that for 10 years?

I think Godwin is p.... off because he knows the heat is coming for him. I am not convinced it is the sort of anger we feel for our Club. He can see personal failure again just like when he got done for gambling and mixed up in the Essendon business.

If I had to make a prediction, I think we will 1) Smash Adelaide - we will be fuming and they are rubbish 2) There will be plenty of back slapping and comments about how that was our brand etc etc 3) Get rolled by North

Harmes is our best gut running midfielder, I'm sick of seeing him down half back and large parts of the Bris game half forward. Give him some run with roles and get back to what he does best.

Heroes wear helmets!!! Harmes needs to be played back into form and stay there. He's the best tagger in the comp. Half back, no. Wing, no. HFF, no. Take the number 1 mid every week and let's see what happens. Hell, might even win a clearance.