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Mr. & Mrs. Scully.

I think there is an important distinction between race and culture.

RPFC and JCB sitting in a tree...? (What they didn't know was that David Dunbar was the tree).

Melbourne Football Club Tweet from yesterday:-

Geez this floored me when I read this. Its incredibly sad for someone so young to be taken this way. My old man paid a rare visit to me in June this year and we sat and watched the Dees together for the first time in over 25 years, and enjoyed a win against the Tiges. Sadly it was also our last game together. He died of cancer less than 3 months later and I had no idea he was sick until after he went home the next day. What a horrible disease. My thoughts and wishes go out to Two Sheds and his family. RIP mate. These 2 examples also make me realise how unbelievable Jimma has been during his fight with this bastard. He is a true warrior and nothing short of an inspiration.

How many times?

LOL!! Poor JCB, he really wants that to happen...

Possibly the most strenuous session witnessed by yours truly ever. Very similar drills but more penetrating. A 2½ hour training session with the highest amount in the main ball handling drill. Several train-ons were not there; Burnett looked very impressive, a mid-well built around the 186 cm range and a very solid build - guessing - around the 83 kg mark. Couch and Williams were the only others who seemed to be out there. The rehab group consisted of Frawley - slight calf, McKenzie - don't know, Spencer- coming back from a knee. McKenzie, Frawley & Spencer were doing some handball and walked laps after swimming. It was reported that Spencer had done a 10k run earlier. Training in a separate group were Jack Viney, Jack Grimes, Josh Tynan and Kelvin Lawrence who were doing short sprint work. Jamar and Taggart were doing laps whilst all others were doing the drill set which has become customary on Mondays. The only person missing was LJ who I was told was recovering after wrist surgery & will be back for New Year. Jack Grimes did a lot of running laps, also Strauss along with the pacer who has been working with LJ. Jamar & Taggert (who has got a great build - already reminds me a little of Abblett around the shoulders & really impresses me. Barry P was there, very tired after, no doubt, spending many hours looking at tapes etc. A very hard choice/s are ahead of him for tomorrow. Quite a turn up today ,so expect contributions from many others. However,if any queries, I will try to answer.

Like the fabled oasis of palm trees and a cool lagoon in the middle of the Sahara, I'm trying desperately to see something in those pics to get me excited but ... alas ... no dice.

The only way to make his legs look any bigger is to get him into Warwick Cappers shorts instead of the skirt he wears at the moment.

if it makes you feel any better, i talked to matt burgo last night at windsor castle, and made a righteous dick of myself, but he said, has never seen training as intense as our training

Not much good if he still gets around on magpie legs.

I have a problem with that question because it doesn't touch on the nature of racism which is the subject of this thread. Of course, it's not racism to discuss racial issues and of course we need to have a debate on racism and to understand its nature when someone singles out the traits of a particular racial group in the context of discussing why that group should be discriminated against. Here's a definition of racism:- Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination. In the modern English language, the term "racism" is used predominantly as a pejorative epithet. It is applied especially to the practice or advocacy of racial discrimination of a pernicious nature (i.e. which harms particular groups of people), and which is often justified by recourse to racial stereotyping or pseudo-science. The experts say that the best way to overcome racism is through education. Because of the nature of racism its important to discuss the consequences of racist behaviour which can range from none at all, to emotional hurt and pain in some and going all the way to the extremes of murder, genocide and ethnic cleansing. When those extremes are pointed out to some people, they often get on the defensive and claim to be offended for being associated with the mass murderers involved in those practices. But that's not what they're being accused of - rather they're being told that that is a possible consequence of allowing racist conduct to go unchallenged in society. On the other thread, my comments were misconstrued and I was told that I was being extreme for bringing up various instances of genocide and ethnic cleansing. If those things were part of science fiction I would agree but when, during my lifetime and in Europe of all places, 8,000 Muslims could have been butchered under the noses of troops from supposedly civilised countries I have to take offense at being misrepresented. Unfortunately, there is far too much of this behaviour across the world and far too little understanding of the problem and the issues. Why bring up what happens at the extreme? Because history tells us that racism starts at the basic levels and, if it's allowed to breed and gain acceptance in society it can and does become a dangerous force.

Most of us journey through life without thinking too often of the end. Sure, we know we won't live forever, but death is an event that will happen at some undetermined point somewhere in our future. Despite knowing we are mortal we push that fact to one side, blissfully ignorant of our death until it is upon us - or perhaps not at all. I struggle to comprehend what it must be like to be aware of your impending death, teetering on the edge for months, then years, and then months again. It sounds like Stynes has embraced the positive of this brush with mortality; the prioritising of what is really important, something most of us won't do until it is too late.

If AFL clubs became franchises then there will be nothing stopping owners moving the club to where they could make more money. Happens on a regualr basis in sports like the NFL.

Won't happen here. The AFL formed the commission back in the 80's which owns all the intellectual property associated with the clubs including logos, colors, jumpers, competition etc. Smartest thing they ever did. Their experience with Edelsten and Nth Melbourne was the wake up call. Debacle. The comp has gone from strength to strength and they are so far ahead of any other sport in australia it's not funny.

Shane Valenti is Kevin Rudd. No-one was saying such nice things when he played for us. It's only once he's gone that people think they really liked him all along and were mad to let him go. How quickly we forget. We are striving for excellence. Valenti has some excellent attributes. AFL footballer isn't one of them.

Heh, in 'the weakest draft ever to have existed in the history of any sport' maybe we could rookie-list Valenti and Myles Sewell as a special gift to the Scorpions, and to ensure a solid onball squad for the kids to practice around. Good 'football values', with them, for sure. And conceivably a handy backup in a an injury crisis.