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15 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

For what it’s worth, my understanding is that there were several ex-players approached for a potential board challenge, with their sights set on the presidency. 
 

We may find that Pert also moves on if there are sweeping changes, with another ex-player being sought to fill that role. 

Let's just hope it's Mark "I'm an individual" Jackson

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49 minutes ago, BoBo said:

 Can you elaborate more on the slipping standards and the provisional members thing?
 

I don’t know anything about this time period.  

As an mcc member I think  he was very good chairman.

Provisional membership excellent idea commercially and helping provide earlier benefits to poor sods on the 200000 long waiting list.

Mcc standards are fine except drinking at the seats. 

Matthews round armed him at Princes Park. Smith was an excellent full back and Lethal couldn't get a kick on him that days. Reverted to type . Thug

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29 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Honestly I go back and forth on whether provisional membership is bad but it’s an extra category of membership for waiting listers to go to the less popular games. I feel like it cheapens the club aspect.

Otherwise my issues with his time in the MCC: Too many bogans crawling the place barely passing dress standards or with their shocking tattoos. Too many pre sold reserved seats. The bar service is often a mess.

The whole place just has a commercial feel rather than the club vibe.

Much worse since covid but I think trend had already started.

Feels like they gave up a fair bit to get the grand final deal.

Lol sounds like Smith did a good job bringing the MCC into the 21st century.

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I’ve clarified my thoughts and I think he’d be a wise appointment for some needed experience to the current (and any future) board.

He could be an elder statesman and sounding board with the coteries and provide an audit - formally or not - on whether the current lot are really done or just in a bad slump. 

I still hope it’s a latter, I don’t want rounds of board challenges and chaos. I want people cracking in right now.

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34 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

For what it’s worth, my understanding is that there were several ex-players approached for a potential board challenge, with their sights set on the presidency. 
 

We may find that Pert also moves on if there are sweeping changes, with another ex-player being sought to fill that role. 

I like the idea of Smith because of his relationship with the AFL and his standing in the sporting industry.

Not sure about other ex players though...I feel like we need to find people who've been in winning environments to drive the necessary change. Probably needs to be non Melbourne people doesn't it?

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6 minutes ago, rufus said:

I like the idea of Smith because of his relationship with the AFL and his standing in the sporting industry.

Not sure about other ex players though...I feel like we need to find people who've been in winning environments to drive the necessary change. Probably needs to be non Melbourne people doesn't it?

I don’t think they have to be ex-Melbourne, I think it should be a merit based process; if those people happen to be ex-Melbourne then so be it. 
 

I wouldn’t necessarily simply buy into the fact that because they’re ex-Melbourne that it creates a boys club, so to speak. 

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14 minutes ago, rufus said:

I like the idea of Smith because of his relationship with the AFL and his standing in the sporting industry.

Not sure about other ex players though...I feel like we need to find people who've been in winning environments to drive the necessary change. Probably needs to be non Melbourne people doesn't it?

Share similar feelings towards this. Having exclusively Melbourne people run the club was part of the reason we were in the [censored] for 50 years.
 

But then again someone with great business experience would be ideal regardless of whether they’re Melbourne or not.
 

Overall you’d want to have a wide range of extremely competent people from most corners of the industry, some who are red and blue, and some otherwise.

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22 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Ah. So, speculation. Triggered by unremarkable vacancy.

On that basis, considering a hypothetical Smith inclusion on the board...

(Big) IF...there is friction between Caulfield racing stakeholders and Kate Roffey, Smith's MCC credentials should be oil on the waters for that other 'establishment industry'.

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I have known Steven Smith since under 16 cricket and let me tell you he was a fearsome fast bowler being so tall at such a young age. A brilliant footballer at Ormond who started his then VFL career at a very young age but was in the early years continually troubled with hamstring problems.

A highly respected legal eagle and leader. You do not get to be MCC president unless you have some decent skills and I certainly haven't seen any drop in MCC standards under his watch.

He has the credentials to preside over a major sporting organisation.  He doesn't need to be an ex-footballer to be president. I want to see the board run by experts in finance, business management, legal expertise, government contacts and project management, communication and an appreciation of the vaguaries of being a member of the AFL. 

The board has to oversee AFL, VFL & AFLW teams hopefully through a canny CEO and well managed departments who run the football operations for each section

I have read a lot about about what people think Pert hasn't done. The board must be satisfied with his performance so far. He has increased revenue, significantly increased the number of sponsors and overseen a club that has missed the final once in the last 4 years.

If Kate is to step down I would expect a successor to be an existing board member groomed for the post as part of a succession plan. Board coups often fail, disrupt a club through a lack of cohesion or continuity and can lead to financial difficulty.

There isn't a lot wrong with our club but there is certainly room for improvement

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1 hour ago, BDA said:

before my time so i don't know anything about this man but a 200 gamer, BNF winner and ex president of the MCC sounds like a great resume for joining our board.

looks like Kate's days are numbered. 

As well as being a successful lawyer and former President of the Melbourne Cricket Club. Excellent credentials.

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‘Current president Kate Roffey is under significant pressure after a heavily-criticised radio interview about Christian Petracca’s future on Thursday.’

 

Is this implying that she’s under significant pressure from board members?

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3 minutes ago, BoBo said:

‘Current president Kate Roffey is under significant pressure after a heavily-criticised radio interview about Christian Petracca’s future on Thursday.’

 

Is this implying that she’s under significant pressure from board members?

I think it’s implying she’s under pressure from the same members of the media and ex board members who have been attacking her for the past 3 years.
Good boards don’t leak, we’re in way more trouble if this has come from our board. 

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1 hour ago, BLWNBA said:

For what it’s worth, my understanding is that there were several ex-players approached for a potential board challenge, with their sights set on the presidency. 
 

We may find that Pert also moves on if there are sweeping changes, with another ex-player being sought to fill that role. 

I wonder if the club would consider a nomination of Max Gawn as playing President.

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8 minutes ago, BoBo said:

‘Current president Kate Roffey is under significant pressure after a heavily-criticised radio interview about Christian Petracca’s future on Thursday.’

 

Is this implying that she’s under significant pressure from board members?

After one interview?

I get the feeling it's just more media drama white anting the club.

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35 minutes ago, rufus said:

I like the idea of Smith because of his relationship with the AFL and his standing in the sporting industry.

Not sure about other ex players though...I feel like we need to find people who've been in winning environments to drive the necessary change. Probably needs to be non Melbourne people doesn't it?

Can understand the hesitation once ex-players are mentioned, but the handful, including Smith, who have been interested behind the scenes are generally well qualified in a business leadership sense. I don't imagine it's a matter of filling the board with ex-players either, it seems like there's perhaps 2-3 all up who are considering it.

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