Nibbler requests trade back to SA

[Demonland 70,312]

 

[whatwhat say what 22,196]

25 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

maintain it's a complete bargain for the crom

essentially anb for mcadam

i know who i'd rather have; i know who plays afl regularly and who is mired in the magoos

[Nascent 8,646]

Pick 25 is reasonable for ANB and gets us a good piece for this draft.

What's done is done with McAdam.

[Gator 17,261]

You have to treat the McAdam and Neale-Bullen deals separately.  They're not related, even though I understand the parallels.

For me, pick 25 for Neale-Bullen is an excellent outcome.  I reckon he's worth a late 30s pick.  But, ultimately, he's worth what someone will pay.

I accept his leadership qualities are valuable, but I don't overly rate the footballer.  A decent role player, but they're a dime a dozen.  Too much of a fumbler with many limitations.

In a deep draft this is a very good pick.

[adonski 10,897]

10 minutes ago, Gator said:

You have to treat the McAdam and Neale-Bullen deals separately.  They're not related, even though I understand the parallels.

For me, pick 25 for Neale-Bullen is an excellent outcome.  I reckon he's worth a late 30s pick.  But, ultimately, he's worth what someone will pay.

I accept his leadership qualities are valuable, but I don't overly rate the footballer.  A decent role player, but they're a dime a dozen.  Too much of a fumbler with many limitations.

In a deep draft this is a very good pick.

Shrewd analysis

[Mach5 4,654]

These deals can often be spruiked as the first deal to be done, but then drag on a day or 2, as one side (Crom in this case) hold to see if they need the pick 25 in another deal where they could maybe get pick 30 back & force us to accept it.

While I’m hopeful, I’d be wary of counting our chickens.

[spirit of norm smith 15,249]

9 hours ago, Mach5 said:

These deals can often be spruiked as the first deal to be done, but then drag on a day or 2, as one side (Crom in this case) hold to see if they need the pick 25 in another deal where they could maybe get pick 30 back & force us to accept it.

While I’m hopeful, I’d be wary of counting our chickens.

Agree. Dees need to hold firm on at least pick 25. Nothing less !!! 

[Mach5 4,654]

5 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree. Dees need to hold firm on at least pick 25. Nothing less !!! 

Yeah, the reason clubs in the Crom position do this is because we essentially have no choice in the matter.

[MrFreeze 1,858]

ANB probably has had his best ever season this year, we are selling at highest value. At 28 years old I don't think he has much more room to improve and it's likely he won't be as impactful in a new club and system.

[Ugottobekidding 1,053]

I reckon chandler will take on ANB pressure role. Will he pull it off, I am not sure.

[spirit of norm smith 15,249]

1 hour ago, Ugottobekidding said:

I reckon chandler will take on ANB pressure role. Will he pull it off, I am not sure.

I think Chandler is already playing that type of role.  I think we will need another player like ANB but who also adds goals.  Saw the impact of such mid sized forwards during the finals.  Must bring pressure but also hit the scoreboard.   

[Redleg 40,219]

34 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I think Chandler is already playing that type of role.  I think we will need another player like ANB but who also adds goals.  Saw the impact of such mid sized forwards during the finals.  Must bring pressure but also hit the scoreboard.   

I wonder if Woey or Bowey could get super fit and play that role.

Edited Monday at 00:38 by Redleg

[Lexinator 1,577]

2 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

I reckon chandler will take on ANB pressure role. Will he pull it off, I am not sure.

Always thought he'd would be a good candidate to do ANBs role. Upgrade on marking ability, especially overhead, has good pace and probably would kick few more goals. Not sure he has the same tank as ANB...yet, but he loves the nitty gritty stuff and likes tackling and scrapping around to win the ball.

[stinga 521]

1 hour ago, Lexinator said:

Always thought he'd would be a good candidate to do ANBs role. Upgrade on marking ability, especially overhead, has good pace and probably would kick few more goals. Not sure he has the same tank as ANB...yet, but he loves the nitty gritty stuff and likes tackling and scrapping around to win the ball.

AMW more suited.  Gets much more of the ball and more of an in and under player.  Both got pace.

[adonski 10,897]

[Moonshadow 17,554]

On 13/09/2024 at 23:11, Mach5 said:

Yeah, the reason clubs in the Crom position do this is because we essentially have no choice in the matter.

We kinda do, as he's still contracted to us next year

[Ugottobekidding 1,053]

35 minutes ago, stinga said:

AMW more suited.  Gets much more of the ball and more of an in and under player.  Both got pace.

Chandlers tackling was elite this year according to stats.

[bing181 9,001]

9 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

I reckon chandler will take on ANB pressure role. Will he pull it off, I am not sure.

Chandler doesn't have the fitness. Though almost no-one has ANB's fitness and ability to run all day.

Understand the criticisms of ANB's onfield shortcomings, but I think people are underestimating what he brings both onfield and off as a leader. Will be missed at a time when leadership is something we're crying out for post-Gus and given the Oliver/Trac/Smith issues. Thank god Melksham did enough to earn himself another year.

[binman 42,010]

On 12/09/2024 at 18:29, Gator said:

You have to treat the McAdam and Neale-Bullen deals separately.  They're not related, even though I understand the parallels.

For me, pick 25 for Neale-Bullen is an excellent outcome.  I reckon he's worth a late 30s pick.  But, ultimately, he's worth what someone will pay.

I accept his leadership qualities are valuable, but I don't overly rate the footballer.  A decent role player, but they're a dime a dozen.  Too much of a fumbler with many limitations.

In a deep draft this is a very good pick.

You won't be surprised I differ in my assessment of nibblas ability - he finished sixth in the bluey last year, and I'm guessing will be top 5, perhaps even top 3 this year.

And if the pies want a first rounder for noble, late 30s for nibbla is way overs.

Be that at as it may, I completely agree with you he's worth what the market says he's worth. Simple as that.

If that's pick 25 then so be it (by the by, in a vacuum, as highly as I rate nibbla, I would peg him at 20-25, so 25 is pretty fair).

It's the same with trading players into the club, both in terms of what draft pick we're prepared to give up and what salary we offer.

Which is why I find the annual debate about the 'worth' of players all a bit silly. 

Edited Monday at 09:21 by binman

[BillyBeane 252]

8 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I think Chandler is already playing that type of role.  I think we will need another player like ANB but who also adds goals.  Saw the impact of such mid sized forwards during the finals.  Must bring pressure but also hit the scoreboard.   

Can forgotten man Spargo come in and fill the role?

[Roost it far 7,423]

On 12/09/2024 at 18:29, Gator said:

You have to treat the McAdam and Neale-Bullen deals separately.  They're not related, even though I understand the parallels.

For me, pick 25 for Neale-Bullen is an excellent outcome.  I reckon he's worth a late 30s pick.  But, ultimately, he's worth what someone will pay.

I accept his leadership qualities are valuable, but I don't overly rate the footballer.  A decent role player, but they're a dime a dozen.  Too much of a fumbler with many limitations.

In a deep draft this is a very good pick.

Unless we can replace his running power and football nous he's going to leave a considerable hole in how we play. In saying that I think pick 25 in a deep draft is a pretty fair result.

[redandbluemakepurple 351]

What would be the compensation if he went as a free agent?

Edited Monday at 10:48 by redandbluemakepurple

[The Jackson FIX 2,704]

2 hours ago, BillyBeane said:

Can forgotten man Spargo come in and fill the role?

3-ish years on a 5 hundred-ish contract would be end of 2nd round is my guess so early 40s

[Adam The God 29,418]

3 hours ago, BillyBeane said:

Can forgotten man Spargo come in and fill the role?

Yep, I reckon he can.

[FreedFromDesire 662]

Although I think he may be a slower burn than Windsor, I think Tholstrup has the potential to play an ANB style role. He doesn't want for intent, so you know he will crack in and tackle, and I think he can be a regular goal kicker once he gets more of a hang of the pace of the game. I really like Spargo's ball use, but to me, he doesn't seem to have the leg speed to be a consistent pressure acts style player up the ground. Good tackler in the confines of 50m, but I'm not convinced on him having stints in that role up the ground, especially when you look at the ground covered by ANB this year.