2024 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch

[spirit of norm smith 15,107]

Xavier Lindsay. Captain of Gippsland. Think Josh Kelly style.  Class and skill and footy IQ.  He is as good as any of the top 5 players.   Can hit a target or kick it 50+. Good on the tackle.   He’s one player that I am sure JT would be marking in bold and highlighting.  
 

Patrick Retschko.  Think Hugh McCluggage style. He plays half back or midfield and has excellent decision making and skills.  Can play defensive role as well. See AFL quality in his style.  
 

Archer Day-Wicks. Takes the game on and likes to run.  Saw him take good aerial contest to make him more dangerous across half forward.  Excellent skills, quality left footer and kicks a nice goal. 
 

Keighton Matofai-Forbes. Captain of Western Jets.  Plays like Mitchito Owens.   Forward utility with an aggressive style of play.  Left footer with booming kick and determined at the contest. 
 

whilst I think we might look at taller players like Noah Mraz or Kayle Gerryn as other draft options.  

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[Blistering 537]

So Ben Camporeale makes All Australian but two “experts” don’t place him in their top 30 players. On another thread he’s been called the star player from SA. Something doesn’t add up. 

[manny100 1,387]

Described on Gettable as a super depth draft. Top picks not as good as last years but players going in 20's last year would go in 40's this year.

Expect clubs to be trying to trade future picks to get extra picks in this draft.

I expect we may put our 2025 1st rounder on the table.

[whatwhat say what 22,086]

38 minutes ago, manny100 said:

Described on Gettable as a super depth draft. Top picks not as good as last years but players going in 20's last year would go in 40's this year.

Expect clubs to be trying to trade future picks to get extra picks in this draft.

I expect we may put our 2025 1st rounder on the table.

i wonder when was the last year we DIDN'T put a future 1st on the trade table

if they open up future years to trade out of then i think we'll be one of those clubs that is always looking to shift around

so far - so far! - we haven't been burned by it, unlike the filth 

[Dee Boys 428]

2 hours ago, Blistering said:

So Ben Camporeale makes All Australian but two “experts” don’t place him in their top 30 players. On another thread he’s been called the star player from SA. Something doesn’t add up. 

Why? Every year a number of under-18 AA's don't even get drafted, let alone go in the top 30. 

Also South Australia have a pretty weak group this year and only won one game in the carnival.

[spirit of norm smith 15,107]

3 hours ago, Blistering said:

So Ben Camporeale makes All Australian but two “experts” don’t place him in their top 30 players. On another thread he’s been called the star player from SA. Something doesn’t add up. 

I agree. I think he’s a very good player and would be drafted around pick 15-20 if available.   Maybe the Blues are watering down the expectations and the points they will need to use.  

[spirit of norm smith 15,107]

1 hour ago, manny100 said:

Described on Gettable as a super depth draft. Top picks not as good as last years but players going in 20's last year would go in 40's this year.

Expect clubs to be trying to trade future picks to get extra picks in this draft.

I expect we may put our 2025 1st rounder on the table.

Agree. I think Dees will 

a) try to use the two third round picks in a package points type deal to push up and get another pick in the 2nd round. 

b) trade out the 2025 future 1st round to get a 2024 first round. Maybe with the Suns who have a few picks to attract.  Aim is to look to get access to 2 x high quality mids such as Lindsay and Moraes. 

[Colm 1,928]

34 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree. I think Dees will 

a) try to use the two third round picks in a package points type deal to push up and get another pick in the 2nd round. 

b) trade out the 2025 future 1st round to get a 2024 first round. Maybe with the Suns who have a few picks to attract.  Aim is to look to get access to 2 x high quality mids such as Lindsay and Moraes. 

There will be plenty of options to trade up or into this year’s draft I think. 
the Suns currently have picks 8,9, 20 & 28 and will be open to offers. 
The Lions will want to split pick 15 but will need picks in this year’s draft in return. 
Freo have 3 first rounders this year and are hoping to trade for Chad Warner next year so you would think they would be open to moving one or two picks into nexts years drafts. 
Even if we don’t get involved directly for these picks there will be a lot of other picks being split as a result. 
Example let’s say Suns trade pick 9 and get a late first round pick this year as part of the deal- they would probably split that later pick as well. 

I don’t think we did a great job in trading picks last year but clubs will probably look at us as a club in decline and be more open to trading with us this year so hopefully we can do better.

[Gawndy the Great 9,009]

Apparently Harry Armstrong is a one to watch for in KPF stocks. Expect him to rise up the rankings. Great pair of hands.

Also Trainor will likely go in the top 5 and is set to be a superstar KPD.

 

[Blistering 537]

On 18/07/2024 at 10:40, Dee Boys said:

Why? Every year a number of under-18 AA's don't even get drafted, let alone go in the top 30. 

Also South Australia have a pretty weak group this year and only won one game in the carnival.

That may be but his stats match up with some of the best at the carnival.

Ben Camporeale

Disposals: 26.8

Marks: 5.3

Tackles: 3.8

Clearances: 4.5

Metres Gained: 385.3

[spirit of norm smith 15,107]

1 hour ago, Blistering said:

That may be but his stats match up with some of the best at the carnival.

Ben Camporeale

Disposals: 26.8

Marks: 5.3

Tackles: 3.8

Clearances: 4.5

Metres Gained: 385.3

Ben Camporeale was SA MVP and agreed he was impressive through the championship.  Top 30 absolutely. Top 20 yes. Probably rank him 12-15 imv.  Blues getting to smokescreen him down the order? 

[Whispering_Jack 29,176]

Fair effort from this lad who played for Richmond’s VFL team yesterday. Whichever club recruits him will have a player on their hands.

Captain of the All Australian team too!

[Whispering_Jack 29,176]

PM Bangers of bigfooty has his say:

[Colm 1,928]

31 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

PM Bangers of bigfooty has his say:

Thanks. He has Lindsay much higher than others. Also has Langford much lower. Very even pool is making for some very different ratings. 

[ChaserJ 4,644]

On 21/07/2024 at 08:32, Whispering_Jack said:

Fair effort from this lad who played for Richmond’s VFL team yesterday. Whichever club recruits him will have a player on their hands.

Captain of the All Australian team too!

That stat line for Downie...

[spirit of norm smith 15,107]

memo to Goody and JT 

Dees need 3 young midfielders in this draft  

Other teams mids have been restocked and regenerated ( but not ours ) 

Windsor has been excellent. We need more !! 

unavailable 

* Levi Ashcroft - Bris. Father son

* Leonardo Lombard - Suns Academy 

* Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA Father son

* Sam Marshall -Brisbane academy

* Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA  Father son 

Best available midfielders ranked 

A graders:  (likely drafted in 1st round) 

Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh 

Josh Smillie - Eastern

Jagga Smith - Oakleigh 

Sid Draper - Sth 

Christian Moraes - Eastern

Sam Lalor - GWV

Murphy Reid - Sandringham 

Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

Toby Travaglia - Bendigo

Tom Gross - Oakleigh 

Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland 

Harvey Langford - Dandenong  

Bo Allan -WA

likely 2nd rounders

Cooper Hynes - Dandenong 

Zak Johnson - Northern 

Nash King - Calder 

Hamish Davis  - WA

Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas    

Damon Hollow - Calder 

Kade Herbert - SA eagles 

Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh

Later bargains

Lucas McInerney - Northern

Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie

Cody Anderson - Eastern

Lucca Grego - Western 

Jaxon Artemis - WA

Xavier Ivisic - Geelong 

Luke Urquhart - WA 

Dees might look to sell the 2025 first round pick to get a look at another 2024 1st round pick and get two quality young midfielders in 

[Pennant St Dee 12,654]

Hamish Davis starting his climb, may make a senior debut in the next few weeks and I reckon will go close to breaking into the first round, come draft time

[spirit of norm smith 15,107]

On 22/07/2024 at 19:49, Whispering_Jack said:

PM Bangers of bigfooty has his say:

Yes interesting to see Langford at 18, Travaglia at 21 and Moraes at 27 … all would be welcome to be in red and blue for 2025.  

[1964nowMORE 477]

Reid and Retchsko at school together. Get em both. Patty has been a state 100m runner so brings good speed.

Murph is elite time and space, aka Robert Harvey, rarely tackled in under age footy. Gun.

[spirit of norm smith 15,107]

On 17/07/2024 at 21:40, spirit of norm smith said:

Mock Draft 2024 run #1

ROUND ONE

1 Richmond. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh
2 North Melbourne. Luke Trainor - Sandringham
3 West Coast. Josh Smillie - Eastern

***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

4 St Kilda. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh
5 Adelaide. Sid Draper - Sth Adel 

***Suns match bid (Academy ) Leonardo Lombard 

6 Hawthorn. Christian Moraes - Eastern 
7 Fremantle (tied to Collingwood), Sam Lalor- GWV
8 Gold Coast. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
9 Gold Coast (tied to Western Bulldogs). points used 
10 Fremantle (tied to Port Adelaide). Tom Gross - Oakleigh
11 Melbourne. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland
12 GWS. Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

***Blues match bid. Father son. Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA
13 Essendon. Jonty Faull - GWV 

***Brisbane match bid - Sam Marshall - academy

14 Fremantle. Harvey Langford - Dandenong
15 Brisbane. Points used xx
16 Geelong. Bo Allan - WA

***Crows match bid.  Father son. Tyler Welsh - WWT 

17 Carlton. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo
18 Sydney. Harry O'Farrell

END OF ROUND ONE

19 Sydney (tied to North Melbourne assistance package) Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) 
20 Gold Coast (tied to North Melbourne) Joe Berry - Murray 

ROUND TWO

24 *****Essendon - Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) 

25 Richmond. Alex Dodson- SA 
22 North Melbourne. Jack Whitlock - Murray
23 West Coast. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 
24 Fremantle (tied to St Kilda) . Harry Armstrong - Sandringham
25 St Kilda (tied to Adelaide). Cooper Hynes - Dandenong
26 Collingwood (tied to Hawthorn). Matt Whitlock- Murray
27 Hawthorn (tied to Collingwood). Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham

*** Port match bid. NGA .Benny Barrett - Sth Adel

28 Gold Coast. Thomas Sims - Northern 

***Blues match bid.  Father son. Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA

29 Western Bulldogs.  Zak Johnson- Northern
30 Port Adelaide.  Nash King - Calder 
31 Adelaide (tied to Melbourne). Kade Herbert - SA
32 GWS. Josh Murphy - Murray
33 Essendon. Damon Hollow - Calder
34 Richmond (tied to Fremantle). Lachie Jacques - Geelong
35 Gold Coast (tied to Brisbane) . Hamish Davis - Claremont WA
36 Geelong. Noah Mraz - Dandenong 
37 Carlton. Lucas McInerney - Northern

38.Melbourne (tied to Sydney). Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 

ROUND THREE

39 Richmond. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth
40 North Melbourne. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 
41 Richmond (tied to West Coast). Sam Davidson - RICHMOND VFL 
42 Melbourne (tied to St Kilda). Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo 
43 Adelaide. Ned Bowman - Norwood SA

**** Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel 

44 Collingwood (tied to Hawthorn). Jesse Dattoli - Northern
45 Collingwood. Malakai Champion - Subiaco
46 Western Bulldogs (tied to Gold Coast). Cody Anderson - Eastern
47 Melbourne (tied to Western Bulldogs)- Keighton Matofai-Forbes - Western
48 Port Adelaide. Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA
49 St Kilda (tied to Melbourne) Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie
50 GWS. Luke Urquhart WA

Add in - 

Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh Chargers and Carey Grammar. Will be a huge chance to get drafted but likely in the 50-60 range.  Had an excellent game again on the weekend for Carey (v Wesley). Clearly was best on ground and has improved this year with his running to become an excellent mid who can kick goals as well.  I believe on the grapevine that Brighton v Haileybury was a cracker of a game too  

 

[spirit of norm smith 15,107]

29 minutes ago, 1964nowMORE said:

Reid and Retchsko at school together. Get em both. Patty has been a state 100m runner so brings good speed.

Murph is elite time and space, aka Robert Harvey, rarely tackled in under age footy. Gun.

@1964nowMORE  agreed. I think Retschko could be the steal of the draft in the 40s. I hope he would be highlighted on JTs list.  

[Whispering_Jack 29,176]

With such an even group in the pool, it’s going to be an interesting time to follow this year’s draft ~

Who will be No.1? 'Five or six' contenders in wide open draft pool

[ChaserJ 4,644]

I’m REALLY hoping we have a first round pick to use in this draft!

[Adam The God 29,327]

11 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

I’m REALLY hoping we have a first round pick to use in this draft!

It's a tough one, because if JT has access to a top 10 pick in a midfielders draft, you'd expect we'll nail a gun.

Problem is would we prefer to guarantee a gun by trading in a Houston for that pick.

Obviously get less years out of Houston, but if Clarry and Trac are themselves next year, we need someone that will immediately make us better.

[Nascent 8,630]

2 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

I’m REALLY hoping we have a first round pick to use in this draft!

Any player you like in particular if we keep a pick in the 7 - 16 range Chaser?

Edited July 26 by Nascent