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56 minutes ago, SPC said:

Does BT deliberately call players by the wrong name? I’m assuming they give him binoculars in the box 

On Monday he called Joel Smith Steven May.

So similar

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Demonland has made the difficult decision to not to permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials.

We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.

2 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Brisbane are debuting Jaspa Fletcher tonight. Yep, Jaspa. JASPA. What is wrong with some people?

As a Rolling Stones fanatic, it is my melancholy duty to inform you that there is a young draft prospect from the Oakleigh Chargers called *shudders violentlyJagga Smith.

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So I've had a few beers and I'm trying to work out how I watched the reigning premiers last night who are playing so bad this year and tonight the grand finalists being so garbage against a team that are exactly like Geelong last year who just keep winning at home but really aren't that good but somehow are near the top #anditsdoimgmyheadin

So far I've deduced

1. Brisbane could potentially be this year's Geelong which is frightening.

2. Swans have fallen off a cliff

3. Geelong's wheels are wobbling and I hope we put a stick in their spokes next week

And.....If we had our own home ground, would we be on top?

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1 minute ago, Brownie said:

So I've had a few beers and I'm trying to work out how I watched the reigning premiers last night who are playing so bad this year and tonight the grand finalists being so garbage against a team that are exactly like Geelong last year who just keep winning at home but really aren't that good but somehow are near the top #anditsdoimgmyheadin

So far I've deduced

1. Brisbane could potentially be this year's Geelong which is frightening.

2. Swans have fallen off a cliff

3. Geelong's wheels are wobbling and I hope we put a stick in their spokes next week

And.....If we had our own home ground, would we be on top?

How many beers have you had?

I’m trying to work out how we lost to Brisbane earlier in the year.

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Can’t help think that the result would have been very different if the umpiring hadn’t got Brisbane back into the game in the second quarter.  Sydney was well on top at stage then the momentum swung 180.

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9 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Dumber than Percy Jones and Justin Koschitzke?

Yep.  JK just lacked any situational and spatial awareness.  

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40 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

How many beers have you had?

I’m trying to work out how we lost to Brisbane earlier in the year.

Yes! Lots.

Yes by lots.

Brisbane are the Nickleback of season 2023. Why are they where they are on the ladder?

At least the Gabba will soon be demolished and they'll have to play at ummmm.

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4 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Just read Carlton currently has 17 uncontracted  players, madness.

No wonder they are playing the way they are, nervous and second guessing everything they do.

Exactly the way they are feeling about their contract status.

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The Gabba is a double edged sword for the lions.

They have a phenomenal record up there. It must be the best home record in the AFL, surely. Geelong wouldn't be far behind I guess.

Every season they bank good points from their home games.

But most games are at night, and it is almost always humid and slippery, so the ball is on the deck and the conditions are tough going. 

The conditions suit contest to contest, tough footy.

And that's basically the lions game plan in a nutshell. Meat and potatoes footy.

Works well at the gabba, but not so well elsewhere, particularly at the G, where the extra space and better conditions expose their lack of leg speed.

That's the other edge.

Build a game plan and list, by design or otherwise, to maximise wins at gabba. Gets them to top 4, so big upside.

But if the game plan and list can't deliver a flag they're stuck if they don't change something.

 

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Lions kicking was absent abhorrent all night. Dump kicks out of d50, unforced errors, with or without real pressure from the swans. We should slaughter them in the turn over game, I hope we get our revenge at the g and shred them to pieces.

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10 hours ago, binman said:

The Gabba is a double edged sword for the lions.

They have a phenomenal record up there. It must be the best home record in the AFL, surely. Geelong wouldn't be far behind I guess.

Every season they bank good points from their home games.

But most games are at night, and it is almost always humid and slippery, so the ball is on the deck and the conditions are tough going. 

The conditions suit contest to contest, tough footy.

And that's basically the lions game plan in a nutshell. Meat and potatoes footy.

Works well at the gabba, but not so well elsewhere, particularly at the G, where the extra space and better conditions expose their lack of leg speed.

That's the other edge.

Build a game plan and list, by design or otherwise, to maximise wins at gabba. Gets them to top 4, so big upside.

But if the game plan and list can't deliver a flag they're stuck if they don't change something.

 

You are probably right Binman, but they had the same ground and conditions in 2001, 2, 3 when they won premierships and last year when they beat us on our home ground in the finals. 
 

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2 minutes ago, xarronn said:

You are probably right Binman, but they had the same ground and conditions in 2001, 2, 3 when they won premierships and last year when they beat us on our home ground in the finals. 
 

The first 3 flags were over 20 years ago and have nothing to do with their current list.

Last year in the final, we had half our team banged up and after we led at half time I think it was, they got on top in the second half, but only won because our guys were totally stuffed.

Max even said later he normally wouldn’t have played and couldn’t move after time. Tracc had a broken bone in his leg. Clarry a fractured cheekbone. Gus and Salem leg issues and several others.

Lions have that as their only win at the G in last 14 games there. That does say something about game style or personnel.

 

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Lions shouldnt even get finals due to the Gabba being a sub standard provincial cricket ground.

Definitely should not be awarded a Prelim with expected crowd of 36K.

Imagine the farce if they play Collingwood. Gabba 36000.   MCG 90,000.  No comparision. AFL is run by amateurs propped up by corporate media.  I couldnt care less about all these expansion clubs. Subsidised rubbish.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

The first 3 flags were over 20 years ago and have nothing to do with their current list.

Last year in the final, we had half our team banged up and after we led at half time I think it was, they got on top in the second half, but only won because our guys were totally stuffed.

Max even said later he normally wouldn’t have played and couldn’t move after time. Tracc had a broken bone in his leg. Clarry a fractured cheekbone. Gus and Salem leg issues and several others.

Lions have that as their only win at the G in last 14 games there. That does say something about game style or personnel.

 

That exactly right.

And is why talk of a mcg hoodoo is ridiculous (and yes one more ridiculous media narrative to add to the pile).

The MCG is not the problem.

Their list and game plan is.

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22 minutes ago, Redleg said:

The first 3 flags were over 20 years ago and have nothing to do with their current list.

Last year in the final, we had half our team banged up and after we led at half time I think it was, they got on top in the second half, but only won because our guys were totally stuffed.

Max even said later he normally wouldn’t have played and couldn’t move after time. Tracc had a broken bone in his leg. Clarry a fractured cheekbone. Gus and Salem leg issues and several others.

Lions have that as their only win at the G in last 14 games there. That does say something about game style or personnel.

 

I probably should have made it clearer that I was responding to the issue of whether the ground and conditions they played under where necessarily an impediment to them winning premierships. 
The list can change, but the ground and conditions, not much.

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